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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 13:01:46 GMT
What was it they said about forums when they closed theirs down? Wasn't it this big jerk fest about how forums are archaic and with technology and the times twitter is amazing because you have direct interaction and because of this forums are useless and no one needs or wants them and blah blah blah? I don't remember the exact quotes EAware had about it all, but I know that was the gist. They pretty much told everyone who posted on BSN to get with the times right? I got a kick out of an interview I saw this morning from the lead of the project and how it was taking criticism and also how he got some of it. "As far as my personal reaction. I won't speak for the other guys, but I spent quite a bit of my time on Twitter and various forums and such. And I won't lie, it's hard. It's hard to see the criticisms, some of the challenges that are out there.
"It's difficult because we do want to help, so you're out on Twitter and forums and stuff trying to troubleshoot issues or give people a hint on something they're struggling with. But to do that, to help the fans and try to absorb the feedback to better steer what we do next, you have to wade through a lot of crap. And that part is not a lot of fun.
"Don't get me wrong. I don't enjoy the occasional gut punch, but on balance I think it's really valuable that things have gone this way. Our ability to get feedback from fans on such a broad spectrum is great.
"For example, we used to rely heavily on our forums, but now we've got several channels of information coming in. You just get a much larger pool, because when you're limiting it to one channel or two, it self-selects to an extent. You're only going to get feedback from people who'll take the time to become a member of that forum, or what have you. It's been nice having a broad assortment of people give us feedback – good and bad – through channels like Twitter and Facebook."
I know how he must have felt.
I get where hes coming from with the other stuff he is saying, but all the evidence is out in front of everyone's face. I'll just sit back and see what everyone else has to say.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 16, 2017 13:12:09 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there.
Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP.
The dev isn't lying about wading through crap...
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 16, 2017 13:15:19 GMT
Ask, forums cost money, have to be staffed and most likely present liability issues for big million dollar companies. It's easier to just let Reddit do it. That is the real reason.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 13:19:48 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... Lol. I actually made a thread with the Patch notes in the OP and it was merged into that thread. I admit I facepalmed. It definitely adjusted my outlook. We all come here for different reasons. If someone comes here for serious talk about the MP in detail then yeah I can see why this isn't the place for you. To be fair a lot of what I have seen on the reddit the few times I have went there is people unhappy about the game as well. The quality of the game reflects the quality of the forum IMO.
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Post by nanotm on Apr 16, 2017 13:38:37 GMT
this forum is a lot better than the old bsn though if for no other reason than we can have off topic threads where we communicate like grown ups, also meme's can be shitposted like no tomorrow and its more fun,
on the old forums all that stuff was stamped on and you know it was pretty bland, about the only funny thing that happened on there was drasca posting a picture of his desktop complete with his cheat engine hotlink for the game (which handily explained how he had managed to get so high up the leader boards and yet was still so crap at playing the game)
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 16, 2017 13:40:09 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... Lol. I actually made a thread with the Patch notes in the OP and it was merged into that thread. I admit I facepalmed. It definitely adjusted my outlook. We all come here for different reasons. If someone comes here for serious talk about the MP in detail then yeah I can see why this isn't the place for you. To be fair a lot of what I have seen on the reddit the few times I have went there is people unhappy about the game as well. The quality of the game reflects the quality of the forum IMO. BSN has always been a shithole, even back in ME3 days which according to todays users was the best game ever created. BSN in ME3 had at least people like peddro and cyonan who contributed enormously to the community as a whole. Here? Just look at people like VegasFlash, whos last three threads have been locked, his entire posting history is him flaming other people and spewing vitrol along with racism as of late and he remains an active user on this forum. People like him are also the reason that a lot of good quality content for ME:A gets buried. Look at threads by TheThirdRace, JRandall, Stardusk, Mortiel etc, they don't get anywhere near the same attention as meme thread no.2000 that is more or less 'the devs are shit', or VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone.
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Post by evilfluffmonster on Apr 16, 2017 13:48:00 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... Im not here for the info. Im here because I love our little community. I might not post much, but years of reading peoples posts lends an air of pleasant familiarity.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 16, 2017 14:06:41 GMT
I wonder what someone who thinks this place is "trashy" is doing here...
At least it's a nice alternative to bsn, something we wouldn't have had if Cyonan hadn't created it.
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Post by Kazu on Apr 16, 2017 14:12:29 GMT
I wonder what someone who thinks this place is "trashy" is doing here... At least it's a nice alternative to bsn, something we wouldn't have had if Cyonan hadn't created it. Maybe it's one of those things where he surrounds himself with "trashy" because he is it himself.
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Post by capn233 on Apr 16, 2017 14:27:57 GMT
I wonder what someone who thinks this place is "trashy" is doing here... At least it's a nice alternative to bsn, something we wouldn't have had if Cyonan hadn't created it. The point is to get people to go to reddit probably. That said, I think off-topic shit should obviously be in off-topic, and am somewhat disappointed in the lack of technical discussion in this subforum.
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Post by Heroicmass on Apr 16, 2017 14:52:39 GMT
Considering that no-one here is paid to run the forum, I find it performs the job admirably. Off topic definitely creeps into this subforum more than it should but that will tend to happen in a community it that has gotten to know each other over the years.
I'll address the balance thread since I am the person that originally started it. Life has gotten in the way of a true ability to maintain much about it between being an owner/operator of a small business and having a 1 year old my free time is low. The limited hours I have are usually spent playing the game. I'm more than happy to relinquish control of the thread to someone with more ample time. That being said, we've only had 1 balance change in a month with minimal content this making conversation about it minimal.
FYI, there is a place on this board for recommendations you would like to see happen where the mods read.
I do hope we are able to get more dev interaction here at some point, but I'm not holding out for that. As for those complaining about other posters on this board; there will always be those in life that come across as pompous blowhards. The nature of humanity will keep that up.
Personally, I hope we are able to get more hard data from the game so that we can actually dive further into detail like we did in ME3. I'm sure it will come in time as the dataminers are likely spending their time playing the game as of now if it is still holding their interest.
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Post by penguinfetish on Apr 16, 2017 15:09:21 GMT
Personally, I hope we are able to get more hard data from the game so that we can actually dive further into detail like we did in ME3. I'm sure it will come in time as the dataminers are likely spending their time playing the game as of now if it is still holding their interest. Datamining this game isn't as easy as it was in ME3 from talking to the people I know who have attempted it. That being said, some datamining has taken place, im really looking forward to the Turian Infiltrator and firebase white remastered
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 15:22:07 GMT
There are a lot of really funny and creative people in the community. It seems some of them didn't make it here or just choose to not post (I guess some could have changed their name and are not interested in the past), but its still fun. I'm not saying I'll be here forever, but the game is definitely not what has me coming here at this point in time. Could AMP improve and become fun? Absolutely. Right now its a boring pile of garbage IMO and yeah its fun to crack jokes and things, but I'm definitely not here because of that steaming pile. I hope they make it better. Seeing what their final product was after all that extensive testing....I'm not too confident in them. I don't know why they care about feedback now. Seems to me if they really cared then they would have had a beta. As a fan, seeing that kind of attitude towards the game REALLY changed my feelings. Quality is the same reason I refuse to buy Ubishit games despite some of them looking really fun to me.
I'm glad I bought the game how I did and only paid what I paid. (Deluxe edition for $50) And that wasn't even worth it. OOOOO i got a hoodie I wear in SP and a waste of space pyjack I see once in a while on top of 1 MP box. Another lesson to learn here.
I refuse to buy DICE games as well. Battlefield 3 and the condition it was in when I bought it was the last time I ever buy a game with their name on the box despite BC2 being one of my 10 favorite games of all time. I am impressed with Battlefront 2 and how they have reacted to the backlash of the first one. Adding in a beefy SP and not only taking the customization deeper, but also getting rid of season passes? Bringing back local co op to consoles? It's EA. We all know EA and their bs, but those are good moves.
For you Star Wars fans Nov. this year might be a win.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 16, 2017 15:23:46 GMT
Lol. I actually made a thread with the Patch notes in the OP and it was merged into that thread. I admit I facepalmed. It definitely adjusted my outlook. We all come here for different reasons. If someone comes here for serious talk about the MP in detail then yeah I can see why this isn't the place for you. To be fair a lot of what I have seen on the reddit the few times I have went there is people unhappy about the game as well. The quality of the game reflects the quality of the forum IMO. BSN has always been a shithole, even back in ME3 days which according to todays users was the best game ever created. BSN in ME3 had at least people like peddro and cyonan who contributed enormously to the community as a whole. Here? Just look at people like VegasFlash, whos last three threads have been locked, his entire posting history is him flaming other people and spewing vitrol along with racism as of late and he remains an active user on this forum. People like him are also the reason that a lot of good quality content for ME:A gets buried. Look at threads by TheThirdRace, JRandall, Stardusk, Mortiel etc, they don't get anywhere near the same attention as meme thread no.2000 that is more or less 'the devs are shit', or VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone. Oh, and we have boobs like you too. You're right, you are no peddro. Also, maybe the reason why the forum doesn't please you, is that the game sucks and most of saw that and accepted it, while you kling on like Worf in a toilet bowl. So glad you love the game, make money with your fruity gaming page, etc.... Don't shit on us because you don't like the content here. If the game was better, I'd be playing it, everyone else would be playing it more, and these forums would actually be quiet for a while yet. Instead, you have memes everywhere, because the game is nearly universally panned as a crapfest. Get over yourself, you are just another average gamer. You aren't that serious either.
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Post by nanotm on Apr 16, 2017 15:27:54 GMT
I feel serious buyer's remorse for spending as much as I did preordering this at the price I did from Origin. I should have waited, but I thought things were going to be based off of ME3. Btw, what happened to your geth? I always treat each game even in a series as if they are totally new, mea has problems I wont deny t hat but so far I cant say that i'm unhappy about the price I spent on it, if you had played the mars warlogs game and then preordered the technomancer and seen how bad that game was on release you might feel differnently as well (I actually felt like i'd been mugged for that game it was that bad) mostly its just funky animations and dodgy gun power that's problemetic in mea, and for actual bugs they are patching it up, in tt it had a premium price and it took them 3 months to release a patch so you could play past the first 30 minuites of the game (it hard crashed due to a code problem) but to do it they nerfed your character hardcore so it was virtually impossible to get to that point.... and now its just some trash placeholder in my steam game list..... and it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't cost so much money, where as with mea i'm mostly likeing playing it but some things are annoying me more because i'm a completionist than because the game is crappy
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 16, 2017 15:56:35 GMT
I wonder what someone who thinks this place is "trashy" is doing here... At least it's a nice alternative to bsn, something we wouldn't have had if Cyonan hadn't created it. I liked the old forums. They actually had solid technical information about the game. This is a trolling and shit-talking forum with a little technical information mixed in, most of which comes from reddit. I jut came back here because the new game came out and its been 3 weeks but I find myself browsing the reddit coop more and more.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 16, 2017 15:58:40 GMT
I think right now we're a bit mixed up with both newcomers and old timers and some of of us has to get to know each other, cause not everyone knows one another from the real bsn and that causes som tension plus the game hasn't turned out to be the goldmine everyone thought it would be, so a lot of us are very disappointed. Tbh, me3 mp section, also on the bsn, also had a lot of shit posting going on a lot of the time, sure people were still doing serious talking of the game but that was because me3 mp was GOOD, so there was plenty to talk serous about. I bet once mea mp kicks off some more and some of the patches and hopefully fixes kicks in, that people will start talking more seriously about the game. By that time more people will also have played and will have a lot more to share about it here, more experience.
My two cents...
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Post by gethadept on Apr 16, 2017 16:03:59 GMT
Well, it is true that the forum brings up both legitimate concerns and other crappy stuffs. But that`s what forum is for, so I hope they are not slacking looking through every single feedback to make the game better because the game is a huge mess right now. BW should be freaking ashamed of MEA and should really make an official apology comment for putting out another incomplete game. Unless they do that, I won`t be paying full prices for their games in the future. BTW, this forum is way better than the last forum because it has black text on white background.
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Post by killabkilledb on Apr 16, 2017 16:04:37 GMT
I think right now we're a bit mixed up with both newcomers and old timers and some of of us has to get to know each other, cause not everyone knows one another from the real bsn and that causes som tension plus the game hasn't turned out to be the goldmine everyone thought it would be, so a lot of us are very disappointed. Tbh, me3 mp section, also on the bsn, also had a lot of shit posting going on a lot of the time, sure people were still doing serious talking of the game but that was because me3 mp was GOOD, so there was plenty to talk serous about. I bet once mea mp kicks off some more and some of the patches and hopefully fixes kicks in, that people will start talking more seriously about the game. By that time more people will also have played and will have a lot more to share about it here, more experience. My two cents... Well, the old forum had devs posting weakly updates/balance changes as well. Its no ones fault here that they aren't anymore but the "officialness" of the forum also gave it charm and appeal... I think I just grow weary of seeing people whine about the game here. The same thing over and over. This is a crying fest. Its so old now. You don't like it, okay we get it. Bye. That isn't the mods fault, its not something they can really police and they probably shouldn't anyways...
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Apr 16, 2017 16:11:13 GMT
I think right now we're a bit mixed up with both newcomers and old timers and some of of us has to get to know each other, cause not everyone knows one another from the real bsn and that causes som tension plus the game hasn't turned out to be the goldmine everyone thought it would be, so a lot of us are very disappointed. Tbh, me3 mp section, also on the bsn, also had a lot of shit posting going on a lot of the time, sure people were still doing serious talking of the game but that was because me3 mp was GOOD, so there was plenty to talk serous about. I bet once mea mp kicks off some more and some of the patches and hopefully fixes kicks in, that people will start talking more seriously about the game. By that time more people will also have played and will have a lot more to share about it here, more experience. My two cents... Well, the old forum had devs posting weakly updates/balance changes as well. Its no ones fault here that they aren't anymore but the "officialness" of the forum also gave it charm and appeal... I think I just grow weary of seeing people whine about the game here. The same thing over and over. This is a crying fest. Its so old now. You don't like it, okay we get it. Bye. That isn't the mods fault, its not something they can really police and they probably shouldn't anyways... I could never post anything at the real bsn without a mod giving me a ban or a warning and that wasn't because I was doing something wrong but because it was too tightly moderated. This place is at least relaxed and you can post without being afraid of reading over your post 10 times and worrying that you did something wrong simply because you spoke your mind. I just like it here and I like people here, the mods too, hell even the people I don't like, they give it character
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 16, 2017 16:12:11 GMT
I think right now we're a bit mixed up with both newcomers and old timers and some of of us has to get to know each other, cause not everyone knows one another from the real bsn and that causes som tension plus the game hasn't turned out to be the goldmine everyone thought it would be, so a lot of us are very disappointed. Tbh, me3 mp section, also on the bsn, also had a lot of shit posting going on a lot of the time, sure people were still doing serious talking of the game but that was because me3 mp was GOOD, so there was plenty to talk serous about. I bet once mea mp kicks off some more and some of the patches and hopefully fixes kicks in, that people will start talking more seriously about the game. By that time more people will also have played and will have a lot more to share about it here, more experience. My two cents... I think I just grow weary of seeing people whine about the game here. The same thing over and over. This is a crying fest. Its so old now. You don't like it, okay we get it. Bye. You get it, but it's the other way around. Almost no one likes the game so the threads talking about the game are going to be posted by.....almost no one. I just went to the Reddit and yep there are people talking more specifically about the game than here....the comments are....about the same, but the threads are more game focused. If that's what you're looking for then there you go. Maybe when the game is good the mood here will change, but the people from the BSN I know are absolutely not going to eat shit and say thank you for it. They are going to throw it back in your face. Here's a quote from the "I'm quitting" thread on reddit btw " No one cares, bye." " The Reddit is full of assholes...hell im an asshole..but im an asshole trying to help. But you have reasonable claims...
Except the pay for skill points....its exceptionally easy to get character/gun cards. And it helps players like me.. This microtranaction stuff allows me to play the game without spending my money without having to buy dlc...its a win win for me.. I think more games need this type of thing.( as long as it doesn't become pay to win.. With things locked behind paywalls.) its actually a step forward in the microtransaction world."
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 16, 2017 16:16:56 GMT
This forum is kind of trashy. The reddit mecoop is actually much better and most of the good stuff on this forum is reposted from there. Also, the stickies here are useless and clutter up the forum. The balance patch one doesn't even have the patch in the OP. The dev isn't lying about wading through crap... It reflects the game in its current state. The old BSN was a great place up until they stopped supporting it and then there was nothing to talk about anymore. There is really not much more to say that hasn't been said so the people have resorting to shitposting. Pro Tip: Wear boots to a circle jerk, you will thank me later edit: of course bioware would go to reddit over here and if you can't discern the real reason then I cant help you
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Post by derrame on Apr 16, 2017 16:23:42 GMT
i think they kenw that if they close their oficial forums, people will eventually open new forums
without this forum, the devs wouldn't have 90% of the feedback
99% of peolpe wo post on the MEA facebook are newcomers or fanboys or people who never played the trilogy and don¡t care much
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 16:32:20 GMT
BSN has always been a shithole, even back in ME3 days which according to todays users was the best game ever created. BSN in ME3 had at least people like peddro and cyonan who contributed enormously to the community as a whole. Here? Just look at people like VegasFlash, whos last three threads have been locked, his entire posting history is him flaming other people and spewing vitrol along with racism as of late and he remains an active user on this forum. People like him are also the reason that a lot of good quality content for ME:A gets buried. Look at threads by TheThirdRace, JRandall, Stardusk, Mortiel etc, they don't get anywhere near the same attention as meme thread no.2000 that is more or less 'the devs are shit', or VegasFlash having a screaming shitfit at everyone. Oh, and we have boobs like you too. You're right, you are no peddro. Also, maybe the reason why the forum doesn't please you, is that the game sucks and most of saw that and accepted it, while you kling on like Worf in a toilet bowl. So glad you love the game, make money with your fruity gaming page, etc.... Don't shit on us because you don't like the content here. If the game was better, I'd be playing it, everyone else would be playing it more, and these forums would actually be quiet for a while yet. Instead, you have memes everywhere, because the game is nearly universally panned as a crapfest. Get over yourself, you are just another average gamer. You aren't that serious either. And here we are back with pointless insults. How mature. Why does someone who hasn't even played the game himself feel entitled to verbally assault someone who does actually play it? If you were a passionate Overwatch player, for example, and I would come and post things like "rofl, this game is a f****g piece of Blizzard cashcow horses**t full of korean internet cafe aimbotters and everyone who plays it is a f****g moron!" - how would you feel? You can discuss a game like civilized people, no need to take a crap on someone.
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 16, 2017 16:48:28 GMT
You can discuss a game like civilized people, no need to take a crap on someone. I agree, much better to take a crap on everyone. That gives you an air of distinction and puts you squarely above the plebs that populate this shithole, yes?
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