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Post by ddrguy300 on Apr 16, 2017 19:33:47 GMT
My first time posting here.. Sorry if I needed to put spoiler warnings in here, but it was the spoiler section so I thought it would be obsoluete. In case I messed up though, hopefully someone will correct me.
I'm about to go to work for several hours so I really don't have time to dissect this, but after taking down an architect having never heard of an architect before while apparently everyone but the person behind the controller clearly knows what it is and what to do, da fug is this shit at the bottom of the cave?
What are my options? What do you all think is the best to do?
Did they really put the AI version of a clingy suicidal girlfriend for another AI (SAM) into this story??
I need some feedback while I go make money and try to walk off what feels like a stroke after experiencing this.
Input would be highly appreciated.
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Post by zeypher on Apr 16, 2017 19:46:27 GMT
Its Angaran AI, so i gave it to the Angaran. Its their call to make of what they want to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:46:57 GMT
I saved the life of the Angara. Evfra agreed it was the right thing to do.
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Post by kenshen19 on Apr 16, 2017 20:05:47 GMT
It is kind of funny to hear that AI flirt with SAM but other than that I found no other reason to save it. The only other choice I remember having was to destroy it. I didn't know you could give it to the Angara I guess this is why Jaal was mad at me for awhile..well until the next time I pissed him off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 20:24:28 GMT
It is kind of funny to hear that AI flirt with SAM but other than that I found no other reason to save it. The only other choice I remember having was to destroy it. I didn't know you could give it to the Angara I guess this is why Jaal was mad at me for awhile..well until the next time I pissed him off. Jaal gets mad if you destroy the facility.
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Post by kenshen19 on Apr 16, 2017 20:29:54 GMT
It is kind of funny to hear that AI flirt with SAM but other than that I found no other reason to save it. The only other choice I remember having was to destroy it. I didn't know you could give it to the Angara I guess this is why Jaal was mad at me for awhile..well until the next time I pissed him off. Jaal gets mad if you destroy the facility. Is that the facility with the AI or the one we save the Moesha from? Or are they in the same place?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 20:32:17 GMT
Jaal gets mad if you destroy the facility. Is that the facility with the AI or the one we save the Moesha from? Or are they in the same place? The Moshae. The 2 times Jaal is hurt is if you destroy the facility and shoot Akksul.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Apr 16, 2017 21:03:02 GMT
It is kind of funny to hear that AI flirt with SAM but other than that I found no other reason to save it. The only other choice I remember having was to destroy it. I didn't know you could give it to the Angara I guess this is why Jaal was mad at me for awhile..well until the next time I pissed him off. Jaal didn't get mad at me when I destroyed the AI (which saved the life of the Angara).
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Post by raikas on Apr 16, 2017 21:57:19 GMT
I killed/destroyed the AI and wondered if it was going to come back no bite me, but it never did. Just missed out on some extra banter - which might have been fun, but either way it's not a major plot point.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 16, 2017 22:09:59 GMT
It's a crazy ***** that wants to die and holding someones life hostage....Oblige her.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 16, 2017 22:16:05 GMT
Giving her to the angara is probably the best bet if you are trying to get as many allies as possible, since she helps them out eventually. Also visiting her in the Resistance Headquarters is hilarious. She has some sass to her.
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Post by Kelwing on Apr 16, 2017 22:21:46 GMT
If you save the AI and give to the Angarans. You get extra help from them on Meridan. I can only imagine the trouble it gives them as it wants nothing to do with Angarans. They did not make it which it even says.
Save but keep AI nothing of note happens, yet. Governor of Aya is pretty upset with you. AI placed with SAM and SAM has it shackled because of mischief it causes on arrival. I would not destroy it as there is just way too much to learn from it.
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Post by LogicGunn on Apr 16, 2017 22:45:53 GMT
It's one of those things, like from ME1, where the consequence won't be known until later in the series. So go with your gut and whatever your Ryder is most likely to do. Mine is very pro-Angara so she gave it to them, though she almost shot the damn thing.
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Post by shaqfu on Apr 16, 2017 22:55:08 GMT
I destroyed it. I wasn't about to let somebody I had just rescued get killed. Also it seemed really unstable,like being in isolation down there for so long had driven it bonkers.
I guess it's one of those situations where saving it could perhaps lead you to learning some things about voelds past, but at the time it didn't really seem like it'd be the sharing type.
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Post by kenshen19 on Apr 16, 2017 23:35:14 GMT
It is kind of funny to hear that AI flirt with SAM but other than that I found no other reason to save it. The only other choice I remember having was to destroy it. I didn't know you could give it to the Angara I guess this is why Jaal was mad at me for awhile..well until the next time I pissed him off. Jaal didn't get mad at me when I destroyed the AI (which saved the life of the Angara). Well I have no idea what I did then but he wouldn't talk to me for awhile. I am about to start Voled again so it will be interesting to see what I missed or what I have gotten confused.
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Post by dazk on Apr 17, 2017 0:44:46 GMT
Jaal didn't get mad at me when I destroyed the AI (which saved the life of the Angara). Well I have no idea what I did then but he wouldn't talk to me for awhile. I am about to start Voled again so it will be interesting to see what I missed or what I have gotten confused. If you destroyed the Kett facility Jaal won't talk to you for a long while. My first play through I was romancing PB so didn't care about Jaal, but this time I was trying to romance Jaal and still destroyed the Kett facility. This time I got an opportunity to tell him after the kett facility was destroyed thatI liked him and the time period of him not talking to me was much shorter. When I wasn't trying to romance him he wouldn't talk to me until after the decision I made in his last loyalty mission with Aksuul.
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Post by melisan on Apr 17, 2017 9:41:29 GMT
The Problem of the Angaran AI, I hope, will come and bite you in the heel when you least expect it.
If MEA treats AI as a sincere subject, then by voluntarily "giving" the AI to anyone against the AI's wishes, is, in the perspective of the AI, akin to slavery, and I can understand why the AI is pissed if you go against its wishes.
If you choose to ignore the Sentience of the AI, and allow it to be used as a tool to bridge the relationship with the Angara, then you have to consider that the Angara, too, are in a way like the AI, Bio Constructs of the Jaardan. Ironic, isn't it?
If, however, you choose to allow it to be housed with SAM, who clearly sends you RED FLAGS that this AI is crazy, then you are risking putting your own AI in danger. Perchance, this AI overcomes SAM? What if through Remnant investigations this AI keeps hidden some core tech from SAM, only to keep developing along the lines until it reaches Singularity?
And important distinction between this AI and SAM, is that SAM is more IA (Intelligence Augmentation) than AI, and as "He" itself states, he is more stable because he develops along with the Pathfinder. It grounds him.
Also. It limits him compared to an unshackled AI. Like Pre-EDI Lunar EDI, Geth or... the Angaran AI.
I would have, like any sentient biological Singularity fearing mortal, destroyed the AI.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 17, 2017 10:16:31 GMT
After saving the spookbot7000 I'm scared shitless of what I've unleashed. Lucky its shackled on the Nexus instead of emotionally manipulating the Angara (Who are weak to that kind of thing by the look of it.) that thing is dangerous.
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Post by Light on Apr 17, 2017 10:33:30 GMT
Its Angaran AI, so i gave it to the Angaran. Its their call to make of what they want to do with it. Nope it's not. Created by the Jaardan just as they were. If the Angara are the Jaardan slaves then the AI is actually above them in standing. It has true emotions after all so either far more advanced than even SAM or is/was a real Jaardan that was digitised at some point.
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Post by Fredward on Apr 17, 2017 10:43:05 GMT
Took it cuz I don't like wasting tech like a luddite but she didn't want to go with the Angara either. She's pretty obviously unstable and potentially dangerous, I'm hoping SAM can stop her from doing too much damage if she chooses to.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 17, 2017 11:01:02 GMT
Wasn't even a question for me. 1. Can't allow local primitives to have an AI 2. It wants to be destroyed itself. I've missed some spooky dialogues, but youtube is for the rescue.
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Post by gplayer on Apr 17, 2017 12:55:31 GMT
I said this in the other thread, but I have subtitles on. If I am choosing between unique ancient AI and a character with the generic name "Prisoner" its an easy choice. What I did not do is take it with me on the Nexus, that would just be crazy.
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