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Post by TheInvoker on Apr 18, 2017 17:25:10 GMT
Lance 6b removes cooldown but power uses 45% of your shields Vanguard profile 3 grants me 30% shield cost reduction 45%-30%=15%. i should be able to use Lance 7 times before breaking shields but the third time i use it,shields are gone  |
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Post by taliefer on Apr 18, 2017 18:19:23 GMT
45*.3 = 13.5 reduction
45-13.5 = 31.5
so each use uses 31.5% of your shields.
3 uses is correct
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Post by TheInvoker on Apr 19, 2017 8:51:09 GMT
even if it's 31.5 i should be able to use it 4 times since 31.5x3 < 100
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 19, 2017 10:41:18 GMT
even if it's 31.5 i should be able to use it 4 times since 31.5x3 < 100 And how much is 4 times? |
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 19, 2017 10:44:39 GMT
even if it's 31.5 i should be able to use it 4 times since 31.5x3 < 100 You can't have negative shields. |
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Post by TheInvoker on Apr 24, 2017 2:39:42 GMT
who said i could? i just said that even if it costs 31.5 and i use it 3 times i should have shields because 31.5x3=94.5 so i have 5.5 shields remaining and i could use lance anoter time
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 24, 2017 3:35:54 GMT
who said i could? i just said that even if it costs 31.5 and i use it 3 times i should have shields because 31.5x3=94.5 so i have 5.5 shields remaining and i could use lance anoter time Except...5.5 % < 31.5%. If you want to buy 4 burgers that cost $3.15 each, you can buy 3 of 'em with 55 cents left...and you can't afford that last burger. |
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Post by TheInvoker on May 5, 2017 0:17:40 GMT
who said i could? i just said that even if it costs 31.5 and i use it 3 times i should have shields because 31.5x3=94.5 so i have 5.5 shields remaining and i could use lance anoter time Except...5.5 % < 31.5%. If you want to buy 4 burgers that cost $3.15 each, you can buy 3 of 'em with 55 cents left...and you can't afford that last burger. this is not important..you can use it until you have some shield remaining i know because when they cost 40% you can use lance 3 times (40-40-20) |
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Post by docklenator on May 5, 2017 2:01:54 GMT
The important thing is that Lance sucks.
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Post by dark8sage on May 5, 2017 4:01:00 GMT
Except...5.5 % < 31.5%. If you want to buy 4 burgers that cost $3.15 each, you can buy 3 of 'em with 55 cents left...and you can't afford that last burger. this is not important..you can use it until you have some shield remaining i know because when they cost 40% you can use lance 3 times (40-40-20) This is correct. It also works for Nova's power consumption. Apparently there's some minimum threshold in play. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 5, 2017 5:48:15 GMT
The important thing is that Lance sucks. You just not have used it much. A detonator on demand, sans cooldown? It's a pretty good power. OP, is it possible you're forgetting to account for equipment/augmentation perks? At least one of those grant shoeld boosts for killing foes. One of the tech passives, the name of which I'm forgetting, boosts shield regent in combat. There are many ways you could be recovering shields that may not be readily apparent. Trying to do any ME calculations strictly from the provided info is generally impossible. Data-mining and/or extensive testing is usually necessary to bring to light the real math involved. |
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Post by flynn on May 5, 2017 10:32:03 GMT
The important thing is that Lance sucks. You just not have used it much. A detonator on demand, sans cooldown? It's a pretty good power. OP, is it possible you're forgetting to account for equipment/augmentation perks? At least one of those grant shoeld boosts for killing foes. One of the tech passives, the name of which I'm forgetting, boosts shield regent in combat. There are many ways you could be recovering shields that may not be readily apparent. Trying to do any ME calculations strictly from the provided info is generally impossible. Data-mining and/or extensive testing is usually necessary to bring to light the real math involved. Yeah, you can help your shields with equipment and other skills which restores them. Crafting and Augmentations are important, like the Shield Oscillator: masseffectandromeda.gamepedia.com/Augmentation (just hit control+F and type in "Shield" to quickly find some options)As for skills, Barriers' Biotic Link increases shields with +40%, and restores if I'm not mistaken, Active Barrier adds 10% on kill. Annihilation can restore 30% on kill, too. But to be honest, I'm currently trying the Adrenaline module instead of Barrier useage. Gives me less embarrassing deaths when running directly into a group with Aegis, Annihilation and Lance. |
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Post by TheInvoker on May 5, 2017 12:04:58 GMT
currently i'm not playing because i'm waiting for my new video card but i think i'll change lance with concussive shot. i need more soldier points to raise vanguard profile and it detonates combo too.
i tested and i saw that i run out of power cells very quickly so i think i'll go with cooldown even if annihilation makes it very long. i like annihilation because it lifts enemies. it's a defensive way to avoid damage since enemies can't attack
i coould change it with Nova with upgrade that primes enemies it has the same effect of annihilation (knockdown/lift enemies and prime) but i have to "waste" time since it's an active power. at least it won't affect my cooldowns
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