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Post by korban on Apr 18, 2017 23:16:44 GMT
ME:A vs. BattleFront 2 (in-game graphics): So what's Bioware's excuse?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 18, 2017 23:20:50 GMT
Isn't the BF2 thing a trailer? I'd wait for actual in game footage first. Regardless everyone already knows facial animations are fucked in this game, bringing up other games doesn't change that but it does show the issue isn't with the engine itself but the people who made the animations.
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Post by jimusmc on Apr 18, 2017 23:22:28 GMT
so a pre-rendered trailer.
a linear game vs an open world game where resources are in much different areas.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 18, 2017 23:23:24 GMT
One is a CGI promotional trailer of a game that will have a short campaign, no RPG elements, far less voice over work, doesn't have exploration over vast maps, doesn't have to worry about writing for companions, side quests, journals/emails/codex entries, and a main quest.
The other is Mass Effect...which has all those things and needs to budget resources appropriately.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Apr 18, 2017 23:26:15 GMT
You could compare the animations between BF1 campaign and MEA, i think both of them use the same version of the engine...
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 18, 2017 23:26:48 GMT
so a pre-rendered trailer. a linear game vs an open world game where resources are in much different areas. DA:I uses same engine, uses an open world style and it's even an older game that visually looks better than andromeda on the animations. Dice is big on looks and visuals, they also aren't linear if you've ever played a battlefield game and you'll see them push those 64 man maps to the absolute limit.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 18, 2017 23:26:49 GMT
Aw, are we cross Korban?
Does this mean we can't be friends?
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 18, 2017 23:30:43 GMT
Meh, it makes more sense for "apologists" to be on a forum for a game they're supposedly apologizing for than people who hate or troll a game. I mean, how much free time or lonely does someone have to be to visit forums for a game they supposedly hate?
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Post by korban on Apr 18, 2017 23:34:54 GMT
Meh, it makes more sense for "apologists" to be on a forum for a game they're supposedly apologizing for than people who hate or troll a game. I mean, how much free time or lonely does someone have to be to visit forums for a game they supposedly hate? I loved the original 1-3 series. But seeing what Bioware have done with Andromeda i feel the need to let them know what a piece of crap they created. I know they're reading this forums. I had had a $99 super deluxe pre-ordered 6 months before release. But after what they released, i immediately refunded it.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 18, 2017 23:34:56 GMT
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 18, 2017 23:36:29 GMT
MEA is a disaster on a technical level and character design, especially human, is terrible. But this comparison is a bit unfair.
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Post by cobalt72 on Apr 18, 2017 23:39:51 GMT
Meh, it makes more sense for "apologists" to be on a forum for a game they're supposedly apologizing for than people who hate or troll a game. I mean, how much free time or lonely does someone have to be to visit forums for a game they supposedly hate? I loved the original 1-3 series. But seeing what Bioware have done with Andromeda i feel the need to let them know what a piece of crap they created. I know they're reading this forums. I had had a $99 super deluxe pre-ordered 6 months before release. But after what they released, i immediately refunded it. I can understand visiting or posting in a forum once or a few times. But there are probably quite a few people on this forum and other forums for games, movies, politics or whatever else who supposedly hate the forum's subject but they post or visit daily. What a sad life they must have to do so
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Post by Steelcan on Apr 18, 2017 23:51:52 GMT
compare it to BF1 as opposed to this, it still pales in comparison
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 18, 2017 23:51:59 GMT
wow, a lot of Bioware apologist cucks on this forum. keep eating bioware shit then.
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 19, 2017 0:56:08 GMT
BattleFront 2 (in-game graphics): So what's Bioware's excuse? Let's not talk about in game render or cinematic render and all that. Look at this woman. She is realistic and... kinda attractive. We all know that it is against BW's company policies to have attractive good looking woman Let's not anger the SJW
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BattleFront 2 (in-game graphics): So what's Bioware's excuse? Let's not talk about in game render or cinematic render and all that. Look at this woman. She is realistic and... kinda attractive. We all know that it is against BW's company policies to have attractive good looking woman Let's not anger the SJW But according to the Youtube comment section - She is yet another woman being a Star Wars protag, and now feminism has taken over the franchise as a whole. On topic - Yeah she looks great, but we're not a 100% sure she will actually look like that in game - Like with all EA trailers its "Captured In Engine" Still if you take a look at the characters in Battlefield 1 you can see the vast difference between DICE and Bioware's character design/effort.
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 19, 2017 1:12:41 GMT
Let's not talk about in game render or cinematic render and all that. Look at this woman. She is realistic and... kinda attractive. We all know that it is against BW's company policies to have attractive good looking woman Let's not anger the SJW But according to the Youtube comment section - She is yet another woman being a Star Wars protag, and now feminism has taken over the franchise as a whole. On topic - Yeah she looks great, but we're not a 100% sure she will actually look like that in game - Like with all EA trailers its "Captured In Engine" Still if you take a look at the characters in Battlefield 1 you can see the vast difference between DICE and Bioware's character design/effort. Female protagonist is fine. Lara Croft existed before the whole SJW/feminist BS era. As long as they are attractive and looks good. Bioware on the other hand goes the extra light year to ensure that females looks fugly
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Post by malgus on Apr 19, 2017 1:15:28 GMT
By the way you are certainly not going to convince bioware that MEA is bad because when the times comes to actually discuss with people who disagrees with you and they bring you actual arguments, your only response is that they're apologists...
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Post by slimgrin on Apr 19, 2017 1:16:50 GMT
No excuse, but DICE is terrible about showing bullshots. No way in hell the game will look like the trailer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 1:16:57 GMT
But according to the Youtube comment section - She is yet another woman being a Star Wars protag, and now feminism has taken over the franchise as a whole. On topic - Yeah she looks great, but we're not a 100% sure she will actually look like that in game - Like with all EA trailers its "Captured In Engine" Still if you take a look at the characters in Battlefield 1 you can see the vast difference between DICE and Bioware's character design/effort. Female protagonist is fine. Lara Croft existed before the whole SJW/feminist BS era. As long as they are attractive and looks good. Bioware on the other hand goes the extra light year to ensure that females looks fugly I don't think they do exactly that, but they are trying to capture what they consider "real" women. There is nothing wrong with that, except the part where its a game and a power fantasy. People want to kick ass and look good while doing it. We now live in a world where Bethesda has more attractive female characters in their game than Bioware. Never thought i would actually say that. Kudos on Bethesda for sticking to their power fantasy protag though!
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Post by korban on Apr 19, 2017 1:17:31 GMT
By the way you are certainly not going to convince bioware that MEA is bad because when the times comes to actually discuss with people who disagrees with you and they bring you actual arguments, your only response is that they're apologists... I dont need to convince them. They are already butthurt that the majority of people say it's a piece of shit. They are quite aware of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 1:18:15 GMT
By the way you are certainly not going to convince bioware that MEA is bad because when the times comes to actually discuss with people who disagrees with you and they bring you actual arguments, your only response is that they're apologists... I dont need to convince them. They are already butthurt that the majority of people say it's a piece of shit. They are quite aware of it. Stay classy, dude!
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Post by malgus on Apr 19, 2017 1:23:27 GMT
By the way you are certainly not going to convince bioware that MEA is bad because when the times comes to actually discuss with people who disagrees with you and they bring you actual arguments, your only response is that they're apologists... I dont need to convince them. They are already butthurt that the majority of people say it's a piece of shit. They are quite aware of it. The majority? You are aware that the internet is no way representative of the majority right? because you don't seem to be. And even then a lot of the people who says its a piece of shit, did not even played it. I am not speaking of the one who actually played it and don't think its good, I am speaking of the one who just takes whatever youtuber tells them, or some people who post 0 on metacritic on the three different version of MEA less than 24 hours after the release. I am sure the guy played all of the three version to form a coherent opinion in less than half a day to have a clear idea of how good they think the game is for each version... : www.metacritic.com/user/Nareke
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 19, 2017 1:25:53 GMT
Female protagonist is fine. Lara Croft existed before the whole SJW/feminist BS era. As long as they are attractive and looks good. Bioware on the other hand goes the extra light year to ensure that females looks fugly I don't think they do exactly that, but they are trying to capture what they consider "real" women. There is nothing wrong with that, except the part where its a game and a power fantasy. People want to kick ass and look good while doing it. We now live in a world where Bethesda has more attractive female characters in their game than Bioware. Never thought i would actually say that. Kudos on Bethesda for sticking to their power fantasy protag though! So... "real" woman to Bioware are those who does not look good. Those who look good are not "real" woman.... Imagine what would happen to Padme, Princess Leia, Rey, etc if Bioware gets their sinful hands on Star Wars.
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