The Witcher 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda thread

May 5, 2017 12:49:34 GMT xetykins said:

May 5, 2017 11:59:48 GMT @carefull said:

So, when they praise the quality of writing in the game, I feel that the game might just be writtten in the same style. Coupled with its grim dark fame, and crude quotes provided, it is hardly a glowing recommendation.

Anyone who would try and judge the quality of anything based on fan behaviour is weird to say the least. And just because the theme is grimdark and goes with the crude quotes does not mean it can't be done masterfully. Only individual taste/tolerance/open mindedness are the issue there.

If I did not play MET and only base my assumption on the fans, I would probably say it is just a crude/brutal soft porn of a game because of swearing,renegade option and sex scenes, IF I am that presumtious. Luckily I am not and actually played the game.

That's true to a degree, but it does indicate what sort of crowd the game appeals to. That is certainly not what I specifically look for, but I notice it, as well as what the players bring up in a casual conversation about what they like about it. If they go on a long swearing tirade specifically about the things I like, and ascertain that the product they praise is radically different, then I have reasons to believe that what I enjoy is not there. I am secure enough to not be swayed by peer pressure. I like what I like, and Witcher does not offer it. Andromeda actually does. What the angry posters bash, I prefer.

Again, while not a defining thing, it is quite off-putting when the fans of a game act with all the charm of a thug, wanting to beat you up just because you wear glasses. It does prejudge me against the product, just like a biker gang in front of a restaurant would put me off from going there for dinner. I could look past it if I have other reasons. But I do not, and that's where a warm, pleasant fan community could have made a difference for me.

Of course, like many others, I toyed for a time with affection for grimdark, but I have outgrew it. The initial impact of a few talented books and shows that used it got diluted and lost with repetition. I appreciate a humor that sometimes accompany use of swearing, but the boundary between funny and lowbrow is practically non-existent, so it is hard to uphold it as an actual winning writing style for me. On the other hand, I have always enjoyed, and continue to enjoy the bright, funny dialogues, so the much maligned "sitcom" writing is my marked preference. I adore Firefly and JE.

And, of course, I take the delight in CC and player impact on the story and characters appearances and can't get enough of it.

I  find the vestiges of patriarchal longings irritating in the videogames, and prefer not to have to deal with various expressions of it.

The setting does not appeal, the main character does not appeal, so... really, the only thing that I have heard about the Witcher that appealed was that a lot of quests are fleshed out with a bit more dialogue put around the binary choices.

Which is great, but that's not enough when the entire spirit of the game does not appeal. There gotta be something about a game, some sort of a WOW! thing that makes me want to try it beyond it just being popular. I do not start on a new game easily, it is hard to learn each of them, and there is always the amount of hours you have to invest into boring stuff like gearing up and learning to fight to keep yourself from dying, and all the other things you have to know about the game. So, to try a game, well, there gotta be something that speaks to me personally, something exceedingly awesome. The "it's a cool game, dude!" is not going to cut it, and the "only morons play that other SH*T, you F****g moron if you disagree, dumb ass," even more so. heh.

All things being equal, if W3 fans were an awesome bunch, I would have kept the game on the waitlist to pick it up on sale.

Seeing nicer people among the W3 fans will certainly be a welcome change of pace. W3 and Andromeda absolutely do not have to be either or proposition. A world of good will come out of following Bio's lead and being able to easily compliment another game without it turning into a shouting match on the social media.