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Post by sinophile on Apr 20, 2017 2:37:55 GMT
Hai Guyz,
I just finished my first run through Andromeda. I used Scott Ryder, and was thinking of using Sara for the second. I am 30 minutes into New Game+, only to realize that even though I changed the gender, Sara has the exact same powers as Ryder. The only reason I stopped doing fetch quests was because my first Ryder had more powers than he could use(He was a sentinel with Singularity, Energy Drain, Incinerate, and Aegis).
Would it be more rewarding to start a brand new Ryder from scratch, or to continue in New Game+? Also, what would transfer over in a completely new character?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 20, 2017 2:47:50 GMT
Hai Guyz, I just finished my first run through Andromeda. I used Scott Ryder, and was thinking of using Sara for the second. I am 30 minutes into New Game+, only to realize that even though I changed the gender, Sara has the exact same powers as Ryder. The only reason I stopped doing fetch quests was because my first Ryder had more powers than he could use(He was a sentinel with Singularity, Energy Drain, Incinerate, and Aegis). Would it be more rewarding to start a brand new Ryder from scratch, or to continue in New Game+? Also, what would transfer over in a completely new character? New gasme plus just picks you up from where you left off in your previous playthrough in terms of level so you don't hasve to re earn those points. If you start from a completely nwe character then you'll go back to level 1. Personally I don't use the New game plus modes as I find it makes the game too boring and easy I want to be able to create and make my chjaracter from scratch each time I play. Thankfully I can but it's up to you to decide how you want to approach it.
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Post by duplexlion1 on Apr 20, 2017 6:29:51 GMT
If changing out the powers is all your after, respeccing in the med bay is so cheep it might as well be free.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 20, 2017 6:49:27 GMT
Hai Guyz, I just finished my first run through Andromeda. I used Scott Ryder, and was thinking of using Sara for the second. I am 30 minutes into New Game+, only to realize that even though I changed the gender, Sara has the exact same powers as Ryder. The only reason I stopped doing fetch quests was because my first Ryder had more powers than he could use(He was a sentinel with Singularity, Energy Drain, Incinerate, and Aegis). Would it be more rewarding to start a brand new Ryder from scratch, or to continue in New Game+? Also, what would transfer over in a completely new character? As has already been mentioned, respeccing in the Med Bay will allow you to completely reset your skills. The cool thing about NG+, though, is that you start really piling up skill points. Soon, you've topped off all of the amazing passive skills from each tree, and you can start fleshing out multiple, effective Favorites. Also, if you're at all invested in earning Trophies/Achievements, a few essentially require NG+. I think it's a matter of what you're in the mood to do. I'm really enjoying my NG+, with my character currently Level-110, at about the 3/4-mark of the game. I intend to play a fresh Level-1 Ryder next, though, since there's a different type of fun to be had in rising from schmuck to powerhouse.
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Post by Serza on Apr 20, 2017 8:01:27 GMT
Go new character. New Game + has some quirks that need to be worked out. Some quests are a trainwreck because special items remain in inventory, and if you level too far past lvl80, you're in for bulletsponges last I heard.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 20, 2017 9:03:58 GMT
Go new character. New Game + has some quirks that need to be worked out. Some quests are a trainwreck because special items remain in inventory, and if you level too far past lvl80, you're in for bulletsponges last I heard. The special item/quest bug certainly needs to be patched out, but there's a workaround that someone mentioned earlier, regretfully I cannot remember who. Before starting a NG+, take your old character to a store and sell off any and all special items. You can't destroy them, but you can sell them for 0 credits. This keeps you from having them in inventory so quests don't bug out. Personally, I'd say once a quest reaches a certain milestone, the special item that you were required to get should be "consumed" out of your inventory, and it shouldn't be too hard of a fix to patch out, but if the work around works like I'm sure it does, it's an easy ask, as Vetra would say, to do it yourself until it's fixed. As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to.
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Post by helios969 on Apr 20, 2017 9:18:34 GMT
I say new game+ if for no other reason you maintain your points, gear, credits, upgrades, and anything else you accumulated. Just respec in the medbay and save, so those points will be available for you immediately on Habitat 7. Also, if you like to be perpetually challenged on insanity, it does so. I'm in game+++ right now at level 110 and the encounters are still enjoyable.
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Post by godlike13 on Apr 20, 2017 10:06:42 GMT
I would say New Game+, if for nothing else but to keep your credits, research, and resources. Unfortunately New Game+ is a mess though. Bugged out quest items messes up various character interactions, and bad scaling past level 80 makes combat and builds less interesting at those levels as power damage and combos only become even less effective. Personally im going to avoid it until they hopefully adress it.
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Post by Ieldra on Apr 20, 2017 10:26:36 GMT
Hai Guyz, I just finished my first run through Andromeda. I used Scott Ryder, and was thinking of using Sara for the second. I am 30 minutes into New Game+, only to realize that even though I changed the gender, Sara has the exact same powers as Ryder. The only reason I stopped doing fetch quests was because my first Ryder had more powers than he could use(He was a sentinel with Singularity, Energy Drain, Incinerate, and Aegis). Would it be more rewarding to start a brand new Ryder from scratch, or to continue in New Game+? Also, what would transfer over in a completely new character? I like NG+ because it gives you a more consistent difficulty. If you play from scratch at a higher difficulty, the start of the game is signficantly more difficult than later parts. I don't like that. In a "first" NG+ you usually start at levels between 50 and 60 and you're not likely to get past the point where difficulty rises again after you max out your equipment at level 80 (at least it doesn't appear so after I gained four levels between the start of the game and Voeld, with a completed Havarl, in my current NG+). IMO, the first NG+ after a "from scratch" game gives you the most satisfying experience unless you find Insanity at NG+ too easy. The only significant disadvantage is that your companions can't improve or gain any more skills after level 53.
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Post by Ieldra on Apr 20, 2017 10:35:51 GMT
As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to. As I said, you level much slower in a NG+. I have no idea if you can get past 80 in an NG+ you started with 60, but at the moment in my NG+ started at level 60, it doesn't appear like this will be a problem. Thanks for mentioning the quest bugs btw. Maybe it's still not too late to sell off my unique items.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 10:46:38 GMT
I started NG+ at level 43, and I find it great, mostly because the Nomad is upgraded and I did not have to re-level my new guy (I really liked it that you can rebuild the character cosmetically, woot!), and the starting gear was good enough for Normal Difficulty.
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 20, 2017 11:01:46 GMT
NG+ is nice because you get to keep research and materials.
However, I do notice some of my quest messed up in my NG+
P/S: At level 100++, enemies have not become bullet sponges so you dont really have to worry much about that.
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Post by Serza on Apr 20, 2017 11:05:43 GMT
Go new character. New Game + has some quirks that need to be worked out. Some quests are a trainwreck because special items remain in inventory, and if you level too far past lvl80, you're in for bulletsponges last I heard. The special item/quest bug certainly needs to be patched out, but there's a workaround that someone mentioned earlier, regretfully I cannot remember who. Before starting a NG+, take your old character to a store and sell off any and all special items. You can't destroy them, but you can sell them for 0 credits. This keeps you from having them in inventory so quests don't bug out. Personally, I'd say once a quest reaches a certain milestone, the special item that you were required to get should be "consumed" out of your inventory, and it shouldn't be too hard of a fix to patch out, but if the work around works like I'm sure it does, it's an easy ask, as Vetra would say, to do it yourself until it's fixed. As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to. I tried that, but couldn't find the special items. What category are they in in the store screen?
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 20, 2017 12:45:36 GMT
As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to. As I said, you level much slower in a NG+. I have no idea if you can get past 80 in an NG+ you started with 60, but at the moment in my NG+ started at level 60, it doesn't appear like this will be a problem. Thanks for mentioning the quest bugs btw. Maybe it's still not too late to sell off my unique items. Ah...well. Shit. I already deleted my lvl 59 character. I was being WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY overly cautious and had like 50+ saves under that one. So, I just deleted 'em all so they weren't cluttering up my save files since I wasn't gonna use that character anyways. NOW I find out that NG+ levels slower. Ah well, not like it's a huge deal, but I wish I'd known that sooner! I haven't tried the workaround for the special items, so I'm not sure it works. I've heard people say it does, though, so here's hoping! The special item/quest bug certainly needs to be patched out, but there's a workaround that someone mentioned earlier, regretfully I cannot remember who. Before starting a NG+, take your old character to a store and sell off any and all special items. You can't destroy them, but you can sell them for 0 credits. This keeps you from having them in inventory so quests don't bug out. Personally, I'd say once a quest reaches a certain milestone, the special item that you were required to get should be "consumed" out of your inventory, and it shouldn't be too hard of a fix to patch out, but if the work around works like I'm sure it does, it's an easy ask, as Vetra would say, to do it yourself until it's fixed. As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to. I tried that, but couldn't find the special items. What category are they in in the store screen? I'll hafta check in a bit, I'm not in a position to fire up the game, but I'm pretty sure there's a category on the far right for that. I seem to remember it anyways, at least at "general" merchant stores.
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Post by jf8350143 on Apr 20, 2017 14:24:15 GMT
I go with NG+ because I don't have to adjust all those details of my character's face again. I just change some make up and hair style.
Also you can and change your abilities any time you want, also you can go reset your skill point.
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Post by kino on Apr 20, 2017 14:36:46 GMT
If you're already in NG+, and time invested in it, I'd stay with it. However, starting a new character is always an option if you enjoy the evolution of a character.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 20, 2017 14:43:49 GMT
As to the other, I finished my first run at appx. level 60, and started a NG+, then heard about the level 80+ power gap that only gets wider as you level. I stopped that playthrough, started a brand new one and I'm kinda rushing through the game a bit, hopefully to finish the game around level 45 or so. This gives me enough skills to really max out one set of powers, plus a few more for a 2nd favorite. Then I can start a NG+, and save the original lvl 45 save for future playthroughs. I also still have the option of starting from scratch if I really want to. As I said, you level much slower in a NG+. I have no idea if you can get past 80 in an NG+ you started with 60, but at the moment in my NG+ started at level 60, it doesn't appear like this will be a problem. Thanks for mentioning the quest bugs btw. Maybe it's still not too late to sell off my unique items. Quest items are tied to the character and can't be gotten rid of. I'm just about to do the Moshae mission and so far Lexi is the only one bugged for movie night so I'm avoiding any basic open dialogue with her. I guess I'll see what happens.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 20, 2017 14:52:34 GMT
If anything play a new game plus, plus etc to get to the level cap, which is level 132. At level 130, I had all powers at level 6. I used all powers with different profiles.
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Post by sinophile on Apr 20, 2017 15:00:21 GMT
What I don't like about NG+ is that it has the same issue that some of the Dragon Age DLC had, once you get past a certain level you pretty much dump your points wherever. Neverwinter Nights addressed this issue with Epic characters, which needed careful thinking about how they were built. My Sentinel knows 4 moves. I could teach him more but that would be tedious.
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Post by malgus on Apr 20, 2017 15:53:19 GMT
That is the good thing about the new game plus in MEA, you can start with a different ryder and keep your level.
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Post by sinophile on Apr 21, 2017 5:32:35 GMT
I liked how ME2 handled New Game + better. You got a shit-ton of minerals, but had to level all over again. I don't mind killing another 10,000 Kett, but don't look forward to having to search for another 10,000 rocks to build a shotgun.
I could use the medbay to re-spec my character, but something about that doesn't feel right.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 21, 2017 8:15:15 GMT
With 1.05 I will recommend new character, cause NG+ is bit bugged. My second conversation with Lexi after starting NG+ was already about movie night (!), when I didn't eve have a chance to know her better. Other thing is, it's way too easy. I have to change difficulty after first two fights, cause I was tearing everyone apart - just like that. No fun.
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Post by feuerrabe on Apr 21, 2017 10:12:37 GMT
I started a game+ based on my level 59 Sara (Infiltrator) from the first play-through yesterday. However, I don't see this as a limitation. While my second Sara (actually called her Janine, to have some differentiation between them) is supposed to Biotic, she starts out with the skills of an infiltrator maxed out - that didn't stop me from putting "push" onto the toolbar and investing the skill point from the first level gain in singularity. I think there are even achievements open I can earn this way.
For now my "Janine" has a fourth favourites set which is her own, plus the three favourites set she inherited from Sara: 1) Infiltrator (Overload, Concussive Shot, Stealth), 2) Soldier (Overload, Concussive Shot, Barricade), 3) Engineer (Remnant VI, Assault Turret, Cryo Beam). Weapons I have maxed out are sniper rifle and assault rifle, pistols are 4/5. So, what I need is to invest a little into shotguns if I want to play a front line adept, but the rest goes to biotics and I will rise in the "Scout" profile along the way.
So even if I do something completely different now, I benefit from the previous skills set... Thus I wouldn't know what speaks against "New Game+". Especially considering that I want to play at increased difficulty and suppose that's true for most players who want to play another game. My first play through was "Hard Core" which was hard enough for me on the first play through - I had my share of deaths, even though it got easier towards the end of the game, as my survivability drastically increased. It would feel self-defeating to not use the benefits of my first play through.
And even if you want different skills... there is this "Respec Station" in the Hyperion's med-bay. Not thatI know how it works, but it should enable you to set a completely different skills set.
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Post by brad2240 on Apr 21, 2017 14:15:08 GMT
That is the good thing about the new game plus in MEA, you can start with a different ryder and keep your level.
I love this mechanic. I think it's one of the most awesome things about the game.
My only issue with NG+ is Movie Night. Lexi and Liam gave me conversations that are out of sequence and I currently have "Movie Night: Getting Started" and "Movie Night: The Final Piece" both active in my journal. I can overlook that little hiccup in exchange for keeping my levels, gear and all the resources I already collected.
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