Mass Effect Needs More Star Trek: TNG

Well it already has TNG's fight scenes -looking at you Morda-

One thing that has always cracked me up about Star Trek is that the writers always seem to want to deny that Star Fleet is  a military even though it has all the functions of one. I get that they are idealists but don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining.

The whole killing waves and waves of enemies really gets boring, that is why I love RPGs that handle things differently, so I disagree having a pacifist run should always be a must.

Also XP should be connect with quests and avoiding enemies too, that is why I finding myself going for the retro and indie games now, AAA rpgs just do not give you that flavor. You are a killing machine with no mental repercussions.

Absolutely this is what we need.

I agree. Babylon 5 Farscape was better.

I actually never watched Babylon 5. I know I should, but I don't have the energy for it. If it is anything like the Battlestar remake moving slow as molasses, then I know I can't watch it.

I think Garak(and Quark too actually) is not only the best Star Trek character but also one of the best characters to appear on TV full stop. Such an engrossing, compelling character, every scene with him is a delight. Makes the show in many ways.

But yup i couldnt agree more. And infact ive said the same on here before. I mean DS9 was seven seasons of space politics and it was great(though imo there was a slight drop in quality during the last season or so. Plus DS9's ending was terrible, the network shouldve gave the show the time and money to do the series justice with a proper ending). But still the journey was great). If written well space politics can be very engaging. I mean ive always said ME2 was the pinnacle of the ME series precisely because it was good for the same reasons Deep Space 9 was good. It was the deep characters and the various races & their relationships/history with each other, galactic ethics & political intrigue, the rich lived in universe with exspansive world building dripping in atmosphere, the smaller scale yet really compelling stories combined with the larger continious archs etc.. as was found in DS9. Bioware need to get back to that. The template is already there for an amazing space opera.

PS. I loved Deep Space 9 because it was none of those things that TNG was(Star Trek shouldnt be defined by that one series) it was the furthest from Gene's vision, and it wasnt afraid to show the flaws with it, like the hypocrisy regarding lack of currency, how savage we can be even when supposedly enightened, and that sometimes you have to be a dirty bastard to do the right thing. Way better than Voyager or Enterprise...and i doubt the new series will be much better.

And infact i've heard Gene hated Deep Space Nine, and tried his hardest to stop getting made. All i can say is thank god he failed. I think DS9 is the best trek primarily because it went againt Gene's utopia vision(which got very sickly sweet at times. Too unbelievable, too haughty, too overly moralistic, the good guy route all the time, everyone gets along always etc). The more realistic, darker, more character focused, more atmospheric world DS9 created was just so much more engrossing than TNG or any other Trek imo. But as a result of all that its much more interesting imo. The best Star Trek of them all(its also aged the best outta of all the Treks. Its ironic that during its original run it wasnt that successful). But it was ahead of its time with some of the themes but also with its formula. The long, continious, multi-season spanning archs, which is common place now but at the time that wasnt really a thing in tv. Now I would love to see a DS9 style Star Trek movie. Bring DS9 back!(though dont bring back the Bajorans~, hate them with their religious mumbo jumbo.). Or at least make something similiar, they wont though as they dont make tv like that anymore. They'll never make a Trek movie like DS9 in todays world either.

Sometimes ham or corny acting can be a good thing.

I'm not sure.  Prequels are tricky, especially in RPG's that are heavily decision-based.  We already know how the story ends, in the cases you mentioned, so there's not a lot of decisions to be made.  I suppose there are details we don't really know about that they could have choices matter in.  But the roleplaying just wouldn't be there.  We've already had 3 games with most of the characters, and so they basically have set personalities.  Having a completely paragon playthrough of Garrus wouldn't make much sense, and he's fairly renegady up until Shep (potentially) helps him to spare Sidonis.  Or a renegade playthrough of Tali would seem odd because that's just not her personality.  She's not a cold-hearted bitch, so to play her as one would be... wrong.  Liara too, though when she becomes an information broker you do see that streak come out.  "Either you pay me or I flay you alive... with my mind."

So I'm not sold on the sequels, especially for characters with very little roleplay value.  At that point it's just a third-person shooter.  Which some will like very much, assuredly, but it's just not what I want out of a Mass Effect game.

Well, the Tempest is completely unarmed.  So it's not really a "Warship" at all.  It's an exploration vessel.  That's why it has all the windows.  To see things.     Poor Legion.

I don't disagree with your point, though.  My OP was not meant that they should necessarily model MEA after TNG, but that one of the aspects I love most about the show, the clever ways they deal with the opposition besides just firing phasers at them immediately, would make for some excellent choices for MEA and make interactions in situations more meaningful and interesting.  

Like your first interaction with the Kett.  You get the option to lower your weapons and announce your approach, in case the new alien race isn't hostile.  They are, so it doesn't really pan out.  But maybe that decision impacts relations with the Kett down the line.  From the descriptions on MEA before it was out, I was kind of expecting at least a few other main species besides the antagonist aliens, and that your actions would determine which ones you could ally with.  They would be both morally grey species, much like humans, and each have differing tributes.  And you couldn't be allied with all of them, so your choices would matter, maybe in which planets you are allowed to settle, maybe in garnering additional forces to fight against the Kett, who knows.  I kinda thought diplomacy would play a bigger role.