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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 20:15:52 GMT
I didn't know I had to explain it. Do I really have to waste time in explaining this? What's the matter? Is your face tired? Genius troll thread, by the way. The repetition of "Casey Hudson" in every line culminating in the "Best wishes to Casey Hudson" insincerity, paired with a hilariously bad picture of him. I laughed. Never thought you'd make it this far, but what did I know? Congrats. Yes, Andromeda made it very tired.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 25, 2017 20:22:21 GMT
Same here. Then throw in T-poses, Liam, the English Asari, missing ground textures, corrupted saves, etc... Nah, game glitches just remind me it's a game glitch. I'm talking within the game world and rules. And to another extent, the graphics and how shitty/cheap/fake they look compared to original Trilogy.v But here's a bone. Even before the game came out, I couldn't wrap my head around the premise. About how so much resources were pulled together and how so many people were willing to ride on some a massive gamble. And then when they arrive these people act nothing like how they should be acting. Then there's a bunch of stuff written off as space magic. In terms of atmosphere the the Citadel 2.0 & Omega 2.0 looks like cheap plastic toys by comparison. Some one did not do Alec Ryder's memories....
And what happen with the colonies in the initiative is just people being people. No matter how well behaved people are or how they are screened people with still panic when things go wrong. and things went bad. Saying why there is so many people gone renegade is like asking why people panick when they leave a building during an emergency.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 25, 2017 20:27:19 GMT
Same here. Then throw in T-poses, Liam, the English Asari, missing ground textures, corrupted saves, etc... I played on pc. so I did not get that. Add, ME1 in the xbox had alot of the same issues. The Asari have an accent is not an issue as much as a quarian have a similar accent. And you know what the crazy part of all this is: I'm PC Master Race. I only bought the PS4 version because my friend Paul has one and his birthday came up. I bought it for myself... you don't have to think twice about that... but damn it. How embarrassing. Last I checked, Paul finished the game and gave it "a pretty good" rating. I believe him. However, I'm going to wait until the collector's edition comes out. I'm still deciding between AMD or Intel and Radeon or nVidia. Everything I read so far leans heavily on Intel i7 7 series and MSI 1080ti.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 20:34:30 GMT
Nah, game glitches just remind me it's a game glitch. I'm talking within the game world and rules. And to another extent, the graphics and how shitty/cheap/fake they look compared to original Trilogy.v But here's a bone. Even before the game came out, I couldn't wrap my head around the premise. About how so much resources were pulled together and how so many people were willing to ride on some a massive gamble. And then when they arrive these people act nothing like how they should be acting. Then there's a bunch of stuff written off as space magic. In terms of atmosphere the the Citadel 2.0 & Omega 2.0 looks like cheap plastic toys by comparison. Some one did not do Alec Ryder's memories....
And what happen with the colonies in the initiative is just people being people. No matter how well behaved people are or how they are screened people with still panic when things go wrong. and things went bad. Saying why there is so many people gone renegade is like asking why people panick when they leave a building during an emergency. Yeah, I seen those clips on a youtube where some dude discusses who could be the benefactor. But I still can't wrap my head around it. It's such a massive project in money and scale, not practical at all. And with so many people. But if the people/aliens are acting right to you, then fine.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 25, 2017 20:36:21 GMT
I believe that Andromeda will have much more ME vibe and quality, if Casey Hudson will be still leading that project. Not long time ago i spend some time looking for an information about Casey, and i found a lot of pictures i've never seen before - on almost every one of them you could see Casey so much involved in ME, not only as a professional responsible for the series, but also as a person who was deeply in love with it, full of passion, completely dedicated to it. Even now, when from time to time i'am checking his social accounts, i can see people writing to him, saying thank you and regretting that he didn't take a part in Andromeda development.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 25, 2017 20:42:38 GMT
Well, I grew up on a lot of fast paced Sci-fi. More noticeably would be the Stargate franchise where it is full of action and humour, so watching a slow drama like BSG didn't work for me. In fact, it is the reason SGU died out because the same creators brought that slowness to it which killed the show off. I think SGU died mainly because it was so different from SG-1 and Atlantis. Personally that was a good thing I liked the different approach. Yeah, SGU struck me as Stargate for people who didn't really like Stargate.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 25, 2017 20:42:49 GMT
Some one did not do Alec Ryder's memories....
And what happen with the colonies in the initiative is just people being people. No matter how well behaved people are or how they are screened people with still panic when things go wrong. and things went bad. Saying why there is so many people gone renegade is like asking why people panick when they leave a building during an emergency. Yeah, I seen those clips on a youtube where some dude discusses who could be the benefactor. But I still can't wrap my head around it. It's such a massive project in money and scale, not practical at all. And with so many people. But if the people/aliens are acting right to you, then fine. Dude, with all that you see cerberus do, is it really a surprise? Hell, it's pointed out there beings in ME richer then TIM by mass quanities. Also, Have you not seen people act when they are panicked? It's not based on logic and it's not pretty. The people on this losing their heads over what happen with is spot on with how people act like when thing go to crap.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 25, 2017 20:47:51 GMT
I think SGU died mainly because it was so different from SG-1 and Atlantis. Personally that was a good thing I liked the different approach. Yeah, SGU struck me as Stargate for people who didn't really like Stargate. I watch every single episode of SG-1, Atlantis and SGU. Love all of them. Such a shame that the whole universe been buried with SGU ratings failure, cause it happened at the moment when SGU start to become a quality show during 2-nd season. But nothing will ever beat Babylon 5, in my opinion best sci-fi show ever made.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 20:53:31 GMT
Yeah, I seen those clips on a youtube where some dude discusses who could be the benefactor. But I still can't wrap my head around it. It's such a massive project in money and scale, not practical at all. And with so many people. But if the people/aliens are acting right to you, then fine. Dude, with all that you see cerberus do, is it really a surprise? Hell, it's pointed out there beings in ME richer then TIM by mass quanities. Also, Have you not seen people act when they are panicked? It's not based on logic and it's not pretty. The people on this losing their heads over what happen with is spot on with how people act like when thing go to crap. Are you talking pre Mac Walters Cerberus Rich, or post? Because Cerberus didn't seem that rich during the Drew days. And to build something as massive as the Citadel again, come on. In regards to the characters behaviour, here, watch this vid if you have the time;
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 25, 2017 20:55:00 GMT
Yeah, SGU struck me as Stargate for people who didn't really like Stargate. I watch every single episode of SG-1, Atlantis and SGU. Love all of them. Such a shame that the whole universe been buried with SGU ratings failure, cause it happened at the moment when SGU start to become a quality show during 2-nd season. But nothing will ever beat Babylon 5, in my opinion best sci-fi show ever made. Agreed except for the Babylon 5 part. Never managed to see it.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 25, 2017 20:58:13 GMT
I watch every single episode of SG-1, Atlantis and SGU. Love all of them. Such a shame that the whole universe been buried with SGU ratings failure, cause it happened at the moment when SGU start to become a quality show during 2-nd season. But nothing will ever beat Babylon 5, in my opinion best sci-fi show ever made. Agreed except for the Babylon 5 part. Never managed to see it. Well, i can only recommend that show with all my heart. I re-watch it 3 times already, and never got bored with it. I don't think i will ever again see in my life such a well written show. It's badly out-dated to today's standards, but it doesn't really matter. Other thing is, you will find a lot of similarities between Babylon 5 and ME trilogy
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 25, 2017 21:10:06 GMT
B5 is a bit hard to find these days. Last I heard it wasn't in anybody's streaming catalog, and it hasn't been run on cable in years. Decent library systems might have the DVDs someplace.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 25, 2017 21:10:45 GMT
B5 is a bit hard to find these days. Last I heard it wasn't in anybody's streaming catalog, and it hasn't been run on cable in years. Decent library systems might have the DVDs someplace. I have places where I can find it. Andromeda is also hard to find.
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Post by Cyonan on Apr 25, 2017 21:23:03 GMT
To be honest if we're talking suspension of disbelief in Mass Effect then the Lazarus Project is just as ridiculous of a thing as the Andromeda Initiative is.
The franchise has always relied on a lot of space magic and players not stopping to think about it for too long. ME:A just doesn't hide it as well as previous games did.
Also the Nexus isn't that crazy in its size. The character that notes it's "almost as big as the Citadel back home" is simply wrong about that estimation. The length of the Nexus is 15.47km while the Citadel is 44.7km with the arms open.
It's like 1/3 the size of the Citadel.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 25, 2017 21:31:27 GMT
Dude, with all that you see cerberus do, is it really a surprise? Hell, it's pointed out there beings in ME richer then TIM by mass quanities. Also, Have you not seen people act when they are panicked? It's not based on logic and it's not pretty. The people on this losing their heads over what happen with is spot on with how people act like when thing go to crap. Are you talking pre Mac Walters Cerberus Rich, or post? Because Cerberus didn't seem that rich during the Drew days. And to build something as massive as the Citadel again, come on. In regards to the characters behaviour, here, watch this vid if you have the time; Did no one remember the Drew was the lead writer of ME2? It's not impossible cerberus to have as much funding as it had. And how the line are in MEa is not an issue. After Aya everything was find. Not liking the line that are mostly jokes is a matter of taste. added it's not like the game does not have any gime part. this complain comes off as just it's not a serious as ME3.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 21:37:15 GMT
To be honest if we're talking suspension of disbelief in Mass Effect then the Lazarus Project is just as ridiculous of a thing as the Andromeda Initiative is. The franchise has always relied on a lot of space magic and players not stopping to think about it for too long. ME:A just doesn't hide it as well as previous games did. Also the Nexus isn't that crazy in its size. The character that notes it's "almost as big as the Citadel back home" is simply wrong about that estimation. The length of the Nexus is 15.47km while the Citadel is 44.7km with the arms open. It's like 1/3 the size of the Citadel. Well said. And interesting info on the length of both Nexus and Citadel. But is it clear on the length of the Nexus from arm to arm or just the length of one arm? I've actually been looking for some screen grabs of the Nexus when looking out the window for awhile now for comparison and bummed I can't find one. Any volunteers?
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Post by Iakus on Apr 25, 2017 21:38:08 GMT
To be honest if we're talking suspension of disbelief in Mass Effect then the Lazarus Project is just as ridiculous of a thing as the Andromeda Initiative is. The franchise has always relied on a lot of space magic and players not stopping to think about it for too long. ME:A just doesn't hide it as well as previous games did. Also the Nexus isn't that crazy in its size. The character that notes it's "almost as big as the Citadel back home" is simply wrong about that estimation. The length of the Nexus is 15.47km while the Citadel is 44.7km with the arms open. It's like 1/3 the size of the Citadel. Oh, ONLY 1/3 the size of the Citadel Believe me, I found the Lazarus Project totally ridiculous as well, and all this space magic has only hurt the franchise.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 25, 2017 21:42:18 GMT
B5 is a bit hard to find these days. Last I heard it wasn't in anybody's streaming catalog, and it hasn't been run on cable in years. Decent library systems might have the DVDs someplace. Haven't heard of them before, but it seems to be available streaming here www.go90.com/shows/babylon5I'm assuming it's legit, given JMS himself posted about it on Facebook
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 21:46:20 GMT
Are you talking pre Mac Walters Cerberus Rich, or post? Because Cerberus didn't seem that rich during the Drew days. And to build something as massive as the Citadel again, come on. In regards to the characters behaviour, here, watch this vid if you have the time; Did no one remember the Drew was the lead writer of ME2? It's not impossible cerberus to have as much funding as it had. And how the line are in MEa is not an issue. After Aya everything was find. Not liking the line that are mostly jokes is a matter of taste. added it's not like the game does not have any gime part. this complain comes off as just it's not a serious as ME3. No, I didn't forget. I had only ME2 and 3 in mind when putting that comparison between Drew and Mac Cerberus. We had a pretty clear idea of how big Cerberus was in ME2, and ME3 just blew that completely out of proportion in comparison. And for me, the series got a bit more unrealistic character writing wise as it went along, but the biggest differences for me personally were between 2 to 3, and then even further from 3 to Andromeda. Andromeda is practically full of goobers.
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Post by Cyonan on Apr 25, 2017 21:52:07 GMT
To be honest if we're talking suspension of disbelief in Mass Effect then the Lazarus Project is just as ridiculous of a thing as the Andromeda Initiative is. The franchise has always relied on a lot of space magic and players not stopping to think about it for too long. ME:A just doesn't hide it as well as previous games did. Also the Nexus isn't that crazy in its size. The character that notes it's "almost as big as the Citadel back home" is simply wrong about that estimation. The length of the Nexus is 15.47km while the Citadel is 44.7km with the arms open. It's like 1/3 the size of the Citadel. Well said. And interesting info on the length of both Nexus and Citadel. But is it clear on the length of the Nexus from arm to arm or just the length of one arm? I've actually been looking for some screen grabs of the Nexus when looking out the window for awhile now for comparison and bummed I can't find one. Any volunteers? The game just says "Length: 15.47km (when completed)". Though given that the wheel diameter is 5.3km, it seems more likely that the 15.47 is the entire length and not just a single arm.
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Post by Spectr61 on Apr 25, 2017 21:56:47 GMT
Here's some fractions for you -
Biower only got rid of 1/2 the problem from the ME3 ending debacle.
Casey Hudson left. (Had to leave/got fired/left in lieu of fired -take your pick)
The other 1/2 responsible for the debacle, Mac Walters remained.
Sadly, somehow Mac was made Creative Director for Andromeda.
The negative results and reviews of Andromeda are not surprising given this context.
Too smart by half.
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Post by dm04 on Apr 25, 2017 21:57:37 GMT
I wonder whether he left because MEA is missing a scifi feel or if MEA is missing scifi feel because C.H. left.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 22:05:25 GMT
Here's some fractions for you - Biower only got rid of 1/2 the problem from the ME3 ending debacle. Casey Hudson left. (Had to leave/got fired/left in lieu of fired -take your pick) The other 1/2 responsible for the debacle, Mac Walters remained. Sadly, somehow Mac was made Creative Director for Andromeda. The negative results and reviews of Andromeda are not surprising given this context. Too smart by half. So he got promoted from director to executive producer before getting fired. Great detective work, Batman. I'll light the bat signal when you are needed again.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 25, 2017 22:06:12 GMT
Did no one remember the Drew was the lead writer of ME2? It's not impossible cerberus to have as much funding as it had. And how the line are in MEa is not an issue. After Aya everything was find. Not liking the line that are mostly jokes is a matter of taste. added it's not like the game does not have any gime part. this complain comes off as just it's not a serious as ME3. No, I didn't forget. I had only ME2 and 3 in mind when putting that comparison between Drew and Mac Cerberus. We had a pretty clear idea of how big Cerberus was in ME2, and ME3 just blew that completely out of proportion in comparison. And for me, the series got a bit more unrealistic character writing wise as it went along, but the biggest differences for me personally were between 2 to 3, and then even further from 3 to Andromeda. Andromeda is practically full of goobers. no it's not drew wrote 2 books about it. One before ME2 and one after. It’s not impossible. And everything people complain about Cerberus is from drew...he wrote 2 books about them. Added Cerberus in me3 not only had an explanation for their forces and they were not that big.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 25, 2017 22:13:26 GMT
No, I didn't forget. I had only ME2 and 3 in mind when putting that comparison between Drew and Mac Cerberus. We had a pretty clear idea of how big Cerberus was in ME2, and ME3 just blew that completely out of proportion in comparison. And for me, the series got a bit more unrealistic character writing wise as it went along, but the biggest differences for me personally were between 2 to 3, and then even further from 3 to Andromeda. Andromeda is practically full of goobers. no it's not drew wrote 2 books about it. One before ME2 and one after. It’s not impossible. And everything people complain about Cerberus is from drew...he wrote 2 books about them. Added Cerberus in me3 not only had an explanation for their forces and they were not that big. I have to order and read these books one of these days.
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