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Post by jagaro on Jun 12, 2017 12:03:12 GMT
Being able to solo relieves a lot of anxiety. Now...where is the money going to come from? Subscription? Microtransactions? There doesn't seem to be any class restrictions. It's based around what Javelin suit you are wearing. So maybe you start with one suit and can buy the rest for your arsenal? If Jade Empire hits backwards compatibility I'll pick that up since I never played it. Probably initial sales at first than probably a lot of customization options that you can buy for the Javelin. |
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Post by krazyguy on Jun 12, 2017 12:09:09 GMT
This is not like your typical mmo. It's gonna be a one time purchase. Obviously we dunno how dlc or post content will work but hopefully it's cheaper than Destiny urgh. Microtransactions.... wouldn't be surprised but least it's just pve I guess... urgh.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 12, 2017 12:11:34 GMT
Now...where is the money going to come from? Subscription? Microtransactions? There doesn't seem to be any class restrictions. It's based around what Javelin suit you are wearing. So maybe you start with one suit and can buy the rest for your arsenal? Warner talked about the game being build to support expansions, so future content purchase would be my bet. Their might be microtransactions too, because every AAA games with mp have these now. |
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 12, 2017 12:23:38 GMT
Being able to solo relieves a lot of anxiety. Now...where is the money going to come from? Subscription? Microtransactions? There doesn't seem to be any class restrictions. It's based around what Javelin suit you are wearing. So maybe you start with one suit and can buy the rest for your arsenal? I would assume you can acquire other suits through the course of the game and with in game currency. I imagine content expansions will be the way to go for profit. In Destiny the only other way they make money is to purchase silver, a special form of currency you need to buy from a specific merchant in order to get mostly cosmetic items. You don't need it to buy the best equipment, those you get through raids and exotic quests. |
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Post by auronvigo on Jun 12, 2017 12:39:55 GMT
I'll pay for story expansions. Hopefully more money means BW can hire more staff. If more staff means a new RPG IP down the line even better.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 12, 2017 12:53:59 GMT
I do hope the suits are like Fallout 4's suits, completely optional but highly encouraged. I don't see how. They specifically said that to go outside the hubs the humans in the world need to use the suits. What's the point of a CC then if I'm never going to see my character? Assuming that the first person camera is only during hub worlds. Also, it kinda defeats the purpose of player "choice" doesn't it? |
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 12, 2017 13:01:39 GMT
I don't see how. They specifically said that to go outside the hubs the humans in the world need to use the suits. What's the point of a CC then if I'm never going to see my character? Assuming that the first person camera is only during hub worlds. Also, it kinda defeats the purpose of player "choice" doesn't it? The choice in aesthetics during exploration and combat is likely going to be about the suit. I hope the third person will be present in the hub as well (I don't see the point in having it there, if the game is TPS). In any case, as I said before, it's not helpful to assume the game as the same characteristics of traditional Bioware games. The fact that it's labeled as an rpg doesn't mean it has to have the same features. I do think in any case there'll be a CC. |
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 12, 2017 13:19:02 GMT
What's the point of a CC then if I'm never going to see my character? Assuming that the first person camera is only during hub worlds. Also, it kinda defeats the purpose of player "choice" doesn't it? The choice in aesthetics during exploration and combat is likely going to be about the suit. I hope the third person will be present in the hub as well (I don't see the point in having it there, if the game is TPS). In any case, as I said before, it's not helpful to assume the game as the same characteristics of traditional Bioware games. The fact that it's labeled as an rpg doesn't mean it has to have the same features. I do think in any case there'll be a CC. If only for the same reason games like Destiny have CC, player differentiation is important if you want players to get attached to their characters over the long run, which can be a problem if they find every other player has the same avatar. A lot will depend on how the hub is supposed to work and what there is to do there. The bit we were shone looked like a mock up put together to illustrate a concept rather than something designed to look functional. Still, it looks like it will be a place where we interact with characters and get quests, so there could be cutscenes where we see ourselves in third person. |
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The choice in aesthetics during exploration and combat is likely going to be about the suit. I hope the third person will be present in the hub as well (I don't see the point in having it there, if the game is TPS). In any case, as I said before, it's not helpful to assume the game as the same characteristics of traditional Bioware games. The fact that it's labeled as an rpg doesn't mean it has to have the same features. I do think in any case there'll be a CC. If only for the same reason games like Destiny have CC, player differentiation is important if you want players to get attached to their characters over the long run, which can be a problem if they find every other player has the same avatar. A lot will depend on how the hub is supposed to work and what there is to do there. The bit we were shone looked like a mock up put together to illustrate a concept rather than something designed to look functional. Still, it looks like it will be a place where we interact with characters and get quests, so there could be cutscenes where we see ourselves in third person. But it will likely be about the suit. The leet will get the upgraded stuff through the Hard Mode Raids they farm with friends. As a solo, you'd either pay RL money for whatever suit you like the look of, or if you don't want to, you keep your defaults and pick up the story mode content until you are way behind the leet, and get bored with running the same dailies with little payoff or find a guild to play with to farm the gear and new outfits. Suits seem to merge the cosmetics with functionality. It's like the paintjobs on Nomad.
If it's not one of the "quit while you are behind" games, it will be super. But I am afraid, it is.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 12, 2017 13:26:23 GMT
The choice in aesthetics during exploration and combat is likely going to be about the suit. I hope the third person will be present in the hub as well (I don't see the point in having it there, if the game is TPS). In any case, as I said before, it's not helpful to assume the game as the same characteristics of traditional Bioware games. The fact that it's labeled as an rpg doesn't mean it has to have the same features. I do think in any case there'll be a CC. If only for the same reason games like Destiny have CC, player differentiation is important if you want players to get attached to their characters over the long run, which can be a problem if they find every other player has the same avatar. A lot will depend on how the hub is supposed to work and what there is to do there. The bit we were shone looked like a mock up put together to illustrate a concept rather than something designed to look functional. Still, it looks like it will be a place where we interact with characters and get quests, so there could be cutscenes where we see ourselves in third person. Yeah, I agree. The purpose of the trailer was to show off the game's graphics, environments and suits. Even the combat wasn't really shown a lot. |
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 12, 2017 13:31:26 GMT
If only for the same reason games like Destiny have CC, player differentiation is important if you want players to get attached to their characters over the long run, which can be a problem if they find every other player has the same avatar. A lot will depend on how the hub is supposed to work and what there is to do there. The bit we were shone looked like a mock up put together to illustrate a concept rather than something designed to look functional. Still, it looks like it will be a place where we interact with characters and get quests, so there could be cutscenes where we see ourselves in third person. But it will likely be about the suit. The leet will get the upgraded stuff through the Hard Mode Raids they farm with friends. As a solo, you'd either pay RL money for whatever suit you like the look of, or if you don't want to, you keep your defaults and pick up the story mode content until you are way behind the leet, and get bored with running the same dailies with little payoff or find a guild to play with to farm the gear and new outfits. Suits seem to merge the cosmetics with functionality. It's like the paintjobs on Nomad. Or armor shaders in Destiny. But it isn't just about when you see other players. In Destiny, you rarely see other players without helmets. The only time you get a decent look at your character's face is in the SP story cutscenes. The point is to get the sense that this is your Guardian, not anyone else's. There's a value in that which helps build player attachment to their characters from the start rather than through grind. Under all the paint jobs and flashy armor, it's still your character. |
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But it will likely be about the suit. The leet will get the upgraded stuff through the Hard Mode Raids they farm with friends. As a solo, you'd either pay RL money for whatever suit you like the look of, or if you don't want to, you keep your defaults and pick up the story mode content until you are way behind the leet, and get bored with running the same dailies with little payoff or find a guild to play with to farm the gear and new outfits. Suits seem to merge the cosmetics with functionality. It's like the paintjobs on Nomad. Or armor shaders in Destiny. But it isn't just about when you see other players. In Destiny, you rarely see other players without helmets. The only time you get a decent look at your character's face is in the SP story cutscenes. The point is to get the sense that this is your Guardian, not anyone else's. There's a value in that which helps build player attachment to their characters from the start rather than through grind. Under all the paint jobs and flashy armor, it's still your character. Yep, that's why some MMOs I played did not cover the character's face even if it made no sense whatsoever. I have never played a game where the face is covered with no option to always see it, save for MPs in ME3. And Andromeda MP gave characters faces instead of helmets. So, I dunno, why they can't do open-faced helmets on the suits? |
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 12, 2017 13:38:45 GMT
Michael Liaw @stevdral - Gameplay Designer at BioWare (Creatures and Abilities, DA Franchise).
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 12, 2017 13:40:16 GMT
Or armor shaders in Destiny. But it isn't just about when you see other players. In Destiny, you rarely see other players without helmets. The only time you get a decent look at your character's face is in the SP story cutscenes. The point is to get the sense that this is your Guardian, not anyone else's. There's a value in that which helps build player attachment to their characters from the start rather than through grind. Under all the paint jobs and flashy armor, it's still your character. Yep, that's why some MMOs I played did not cover the character's face even if it made no sense whatsoever. I have never played a game where the face is covered with no option to always see it, save for MPs in ME3. And Andromeda MP gave characters faces instead of helmets. So, I dunno, why they can't do open-faced helmets on the suits? Well they showed the faceplate open in the cinematic when the character entered the open world, so it could be an option. |
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Post by Heimdall on Jun 12, 2017 13:50:41 GMT
A question Hrungr, since you've been paying attention, do we know how much of a writing team has been working on this?
Could be indicative of how much character interaction we can expect to encounter in the hub. I imagine they wouldn't need a full team if this was extremely slimmed down from previous Bioware games.
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Post by Eshaye on Jun 12, 2017 13:51:53 GMT
Yup. But Bioware's been super weird lately. *Looks around* I recognize this section of my gaming universe less and less. Well Bioware is trying diversify it's game release line up. I mean, hell, Shattered Steel is their first game and they developed MDK2 straight after Baldur's Gate. And they also created Sonic Chronicles for Nintendo DS. And Mass Effect 1 was also a very not-Bioware game at the time. Every once in a while, Bioware releases a game that does not look it belongs to Bioware line up. Nobody remembers those 3 games.......... That should say something. I knew Bioware because of Baldur's Gate and then Mass Effect and then Dragon Age. I just hope they are not changing too much. ; ; It IS nice they've stated the story can be completed solo and there is morality and dialogue options. So maybe it's just a gritty ME (sort of) with integrated multiplayer. *crosses fingers* It DOES look really good. And it's certainly comforting to see actual gameplay then just concepts like they did with Andromeda...... :s |
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 12, 2017 14:02:47 GMT
A question Hrungr, since you've been paying attention, do we know how much of a writing team has been working on this? Could be indicative of how much character interaction we can expect to encounter in the hub. I imagine they wouldn't need a full team if this was extremely slimmed down from previous Bioware games. Other then Gaider, I remember Mary Kirby working on it. |
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Drew Karpyshyn Magic 8 ball says chances look good. I always suspect Drew Karpyshyn was involved as well... I doubt he move all the way to Austin just to handle SWTOR's story expansions...
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 12, 2017 14:14:58 GMT
A question Hrungr, since you've been paying attention, do we know how much of a writing team has been working on this? Could be indicative of how much character interaction we can expect to encounter in the hub. I imagine they wouldn't need a full team if this was extremely slimmed down from previous Bioware games. Other then Gaider, I remember Mary Kirby working on it. I do know Sam Maggs, Jay Watamaniuk and Sylvia Feketekuty work on it. |
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Edward Ed _Tocco Jun 11 @drewkarpyshyn Will you be apart of the writing staff of @bioware 's new IP, Anthem?
Drew Karpyshyn Magic 8 ball says chances look good. I always suspect Drew Karpyshyn was involved as well... I doubt he move all the way to Austin just to handle SWTOR's story expansions... That'd be a good news and hint towards a good aumont of story content in the game. |
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by aoibhealfae on Jun 12, 2017 14:21:30 GMT
There's also some recent changes to SWTOR team too. The producer Ben Irving likely move on to Anthem as well. But I would wait until the rosters were official rather than speculate.
But whoever on Austin, is suspect! *sherlock sensor*
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