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Post by Laughing_Crow on Apr 29, 2017 7:59:49 GMT
Regardless of the puzzle rules, how come SAM, who can scan whole planets on the fly, can't figure out these puzzles once you've scanned the glyphs? Isn't there a SAM upgrade we can acquire so he can solve them all?
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Post by kumazan on Apr 29, 2017 8:18:43 GMT
Regardless of the puzzle rules, how come SAM, who can scan whole planets on the fly, can't figure out these puzzles once you've scanned the glyphs? Isn't there a SAM upgrade we can acquire so he can solve them all? NONONONONO. The moments you are solving the sudokus are like the only times the damn thing stays quiet. Please let it stay that way.
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Post by danielhungary on Apr 29, 2017 9:06:52 GMT
I know about no more than 22 remnant puzzles in the whole game. There is one chest on Eos far west near a Remnant site. Above the chest there is a highlighted glyph but the chest can be opened and no puzzle is required. So this chest does not count in the 22.
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Post by BrickSev on Apr 29, 2017 12:24:06 GMT
Which Decryption Puzzle are you talking about? With more details I can, for example, go and give it a look. If you also can take a screen shot it could help. Let me know
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 15:56:57 GMT
Regardless of the puzzle rules, how come SAM, who can scan whole planets on the fly, can't figure out these puzzles once you've scanned the glyphs? Isn't there a SAM upgrade we can acquire so he can solve them all? At least he doesn't comment while busy not solving it. "Your blood pressure is rising, Scott." "Frustration levels increasing exponentially." "Sensors detecting boiling rage."
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Post by souljahbill14 on Apr 29, 2017 18:26:43 GMT
Remnant Tiller Starts off like this Middle fills in easily Solve it like this And it'll be Solve it like this And it'll be This isn't the only one that I've seen with multiple solutions
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Post by melbella on Apr 29, 2017 18:33:56 GMT
Except the wrong one is wrong, since there are duplicate symbols in each 2x2 square.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 29, 2017 18:35:17 GMT
Remnant Tiller Starts off like this Solve it like this This isn't the only one that I've seen with multiple solutions Look at the entire image, the 4X4 grid is divided into 4 2x2 grids. This is an incorrect solution, since all 4 "boxes" have repeating glyphs In each of those 4 boxes, no glyphs can repeat, same as the vertical and horizontal rows.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Apr 29, 2017 18:46:37 GMT
No where in the instructions does it say anything about turning 4x4 grids into smaller 2x2 grids. There are no repeats in the rows or columns with the shapes so it technically solves the puzzle.
(Note:I'm not trying to start a war because I personally haven't had any issues solving any of the puzzles. All of them but 1 on Elaaden were pretty easy. I'm just saying that the OP does have a point)
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 29, 2017 18:51:42 GMT
No where in the instructions does it say anything about turning 4x4 grids into smaller 2x2 grids. There are no repeats in the rows or columns with the shapes so it technically solves the puzzle. (Note:I'm not trying to start a war because I personally haven't had any issues solving any of the puzzles. All of them but 1 on Elaaden were pretty easy. I'm just saying that the OP does have a point) Look at the instructions above the pattern. No row, column or highlighted shape can include repeats of the same glyph. See the 4 outlined "boxes" within the overall grid itself? those are the highlighted shapes mentioned in the instructions.
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Post by melbella on Apr 29, 2017 18:53:22 GMT
Per the instructions, you can have no repeats in a "row, column, or highlighted shape". The "highlighted shapes" are the smaller grids within the larger grid, having either 4 or 5 squares each, depending on the puzzle.
Edit: ninja'd
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Post by souljahbill14 on Apr 29, 2017 18:54:26 GMT
No where in the instructions does it say anything about turning 4x4 grids into smaller 2x2 grids. There are no repeats in the rows or columns with the shapes so it technically solves the puzzle. (Note:I'm not trying to start a war because I personally haven't had any issues solving any of the puzzles. All of them but 1 on Elaaden were pretty easy. I'm just saying that the OP does have a point) Look at the instructions above the pattern. No row, column or highlighted shape can include repeats of the same glyph. See the 4 outlined "boxes" within the overall grid itself? those are the highlighted shapes mentioned in the instructions. Yeah, I understand that but not everybody will understand that the grid is broken down into little grids. The instructions don't make that clear so it's easy for people to see that no repeating shapes in a row or column across the entire grid is correct.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 29, 2017 18:56:45 GMT
Look at the instructions above the pattern. No row, column or highlighted shape can include repeats of the same glyph. See the 4 outlined "boxes" within the overall grid itself? those are the highlighted shapes mentioned in the instructions. Yeah, I understand that but not everybody will understand that the grid is broken down into little grids. The instructions don't make that clear so it's easy for people to see that no repeating shapes in a row or column across the entire grid is correct. Um. I'm seriously trying not to be rude here, but if someone doesn't understand the instructions, that's a reading comprehension failure on their part, not a fault of the instructions. The instructions themselves are quite clear, and the highlighted shapes are quite clearly delineated. If this is a problem for someone to figure out, that someone needs to pay a little more attention to detail.
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 29, 2017 18:59:32 GMT
I have found four remnant puzzles so far that have two solutions. The game will call one of them a failure, but they both satisfy the rules. (if anyone has already posted this, my search did not find it. Chalk that up to a really bad BSN search function.) I've experienced that myself a couple of times. Failed once and thought I made an error, double checked everything the second time and it still said I failed. Had to switch a couple glyphs around and it worked. Took me a while to realize that you couldn't have repeats in the same small boxes either. I went in thinking it was just like Sudoku but it's a bit different. Stupid game sites and their analogies.
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Post by Seera1024 on Apr 29, 2017 20:39:51 GMT
I have found four remnant puzzles so far that have two solutions. The game will call one of them a failure, but they both satisfy the rules. (if anyone has already posted this, my search did not find it. Chalk that up to a really bad BSN search function.) I've experienced that myself a couple of times. Failed once and thought I made an error, double checked everything the second time and it still said I failed. Had to switch a couple glyphs around and it worked. Took me a while to realize that you couldn't have repeats in the same small boxes either. I went in thinking it was just like Sudoku but it's a bit different. Stupid game sites and their analogies. But Sudoku has the exact same rules. In the large 9x9 square, no row, column, or 3x3 box can have a number repeated.
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Post by feuerrabe on Apr 29, 2017 20:59:16 GMT
This is not a valid solution:
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 30, 2017 0:19:39 GMT
I've experienced that myself a couple of times. Failed once and thought I made an error, double checked everything the second time and it still said I failed. Had to switch a couple glyphs around and it worked. Took me a while to realize that you couldn't have repeats in the same small boxes either. I went in thinking it was just like Sudoku but it's a bit different. Stupid game sites and their analogies. But Sudoku has the exact same rules. In the large 9x9 square, no row, column, or 3x3 box can have a number repeated. Ah, didn't know about the last part. Thought it was just the roe and column thing. I don't actually play it, just heard the rules second hand.
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Post by Sairys on May 1, 2017 21:23:16 GMT
I have found four remnant puzzles so far that have two solutions. The game will call one of them a failure, but they both satisfy the rules. (if anyone has already posted this, my search did not find it. Chalk that up to a really bad BSN search function.) Are you sure you're following all the rules? There are three rules: no matching figures in rows, columns and highlighted shapes. I had thought that I had found a puzzle with two solutions, but had neglected that last rule bc I didn't understand it. Once I did, I realized my error. The "highlighted shape" rule is not well explained and the shapes are not very well highlighted, but usually these are boxes within the large puzzle box, but sometimes the "highlighted shapes" are different shapes. Common square shape: cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8181659/mea_soduku_0001_Layer_1.jpgHere is a picture of less common "highlighted shape," with circled errors within the shape that lead to FAILURE if you press the solve button before correcting: I've had two of the puzzles that had two solutions if following the first two rules, however, as this poster shows in the second picture, there's a third rule that has to be adhered to that determines which of the two solutions is the correct one. It's not just having no repeats in rows, but also no repeats within the outlined shapes.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 1, 2017 22:18:32 GMT
I've encountered this once. Don't remember where though. Now I just use decryption keys so I don't have to play sudoku.
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Post by sdzald on May 1, 2017 23:21:40 GMT
I have found four remnant puzzles so far that have two solutions. The game will call one of them a failure, but they both satisfy the rules. (if anyone has already posted this, my search did not find it. Chalk that up to a really bad BSN search function.) Are you sure you're following all the rules? There are three rules: no matching figures in rows, columns and highlighted shapes. I had thought that I had found a puzzle with two solutions, but had neglected that last rule bc I didn't understand it. Once I did, I realized my error. The "highlighted shape" rule is not well explained and the shapes are not very well highlighted, but usually these are boxes within the large puzzle box, but sometimes the "highlighted shapes" are different shapes. Common square shape: cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8181659/mea_soduku_0001_Layer_1.jpgHere is a picture of less common "highlighted shape," with circled errors within the shape that lead to FAILURE if you press the solve button before correcting: THANK YOU for the visual. I never knew you couldn't have two symbols in the same out lined area. It sure doesn't mention it, all it says is I need to ensure no same character in a row or column. EDIT ADDED: LMAO I see it now it is in the discription. Didn't even catch it looking at the screen shot.
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Post by smellycatbutts on May 2, 2017 8:01:45 GMT
Remnant Tiller Solve it like this And it'll be This solution is wrong because there are duplicates contained within each 2 x 2 square, per the highlighted shape rule. Remnant Tiller Solve it like this And it'll be This isn't the only one that I've seen with multiple solutions This solution is correct because there are no duplicates contained in the four columns, the four rows, or in the four 2 x 2 squares ( highlighted shape rule). I had posted earlier on this thread about my own error when initially trying to solve these puzzles, and provided pictures to better explain the rules. I'll try to explain again using your shots:
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