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Post by 3rdpig on Apr 28, 2017 17:24:16 GMT
The last three silver/kett games I've played have all wiped on wave 6 with Assassination with an Ascended as a target. There's just been too many other enemies around the target to concentrate on getting the target down and not enough time to take down all the other enemies first then go after the target. I think the last one got hit by 3 Cobra missiles and still the team wiped.
I know it's hard to use strategy in a PUG, but what should be the strategy here? Missiles for crowd control then concentrate on the Ascended?
Yes, I know, L2P, git gud, etc, etc. How about some real strategy tips for this scenario.
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Post by Bzilla024 on Apr 28, 2017 17:28:58 GMT
One well placed cobra should be able to take down his orb and clear the immediate area of baddies. Then it's just a matter of pumping bullets into his stupid face.
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Post by Mobius Y on Apr 28, 2017 18:13:57 GMT
Cobra RPG. Learn to use one.
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Post by taimaxsk on Apr 28, 2017 18:17:21 GMT
Pretty sure I've used multiple cobras on one ascendant and the damn thing survived. What's the trick? Take out his orb first then cobra?
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Post by Nightman on Apr 28, 2017 18:20:20 GMT
Doesn't work if you are the only one on the team using a Cobra.
1st one will kill his orb...then you need to re-load the next Cobra really fast to kill him.
I have had so many wipes cuz of the timer running out cuz people not concentrating on the targets.
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Post by fenrir4life on Apr 28, 2017 18:20:33 GMT
Pretty sure I've used multiple cobras on one ascendant and the damn thing survived. What's the trick? Take out his orb first then cobra? Exactly that. Wait for him to charge a wave motion sphere, shoot the orb with the biggest gun you have, then cobra him when the orb is down. Then hit a revive pack, since the 5 anointed murdered the befuckers out of you while you were arming the cobra. |
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Post by JRandall0308 on Apr 28, 2017 18:22:03 GMT
Cobra needs to hit the Orb otherwise it does nothing. A fast sniper with Vanquisher can also kill the Orb.
Then another Cobra or more fast sniping.
Same strategy applies on Gold.
Obviously, easier said than done. But do-able.
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Post by 3rdpig on Apr 28, 2017 18:24:13 GMT
Cobra needs to hit the Orb otherwise it does nothing. A fast sniper with Vanquisher can also kill the Orb. Then another Cobra or more fast sniping. Same strategy applies on Gold. Obviously, easier said than done. But do-able. Thanks, that's helpful. B |
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Post by fenrir4life on Apr 28, 2017 18:24:50 GMT
Cobra RPG. Learn to use one. lol. Oh Master, please teach this lowly one to use the mystical Cobra. I've shot its ball to no effect, I've shot it's ball multiple times to no effect, so massa, what's the secret? Same thing as the rifle- wait until the orb is stationary in front of him. If lag tells the host that your cobra impacted on the far side of the shield from the orb, it takes no damage, so just remove that risk entirely by shooting the one time it's stationary. |
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Post by taimaxsk on Apr 28, 2017 18:25:43 GMT
Pretty sure I've used multiple cobras on one ascendant and the damn thing survived. What's the trick? Take out his orb first then cobra? Exactly that. Wait for him to charge a wave motion sphere, shoot the orb with the biggest gun you have, then cobra him when the orb is down. Then hit a revive pack, since the 5 anointed murdered the befuckers out of you while you were arming the cobra. LOL! Thanks for that new phrase, and I'd add your avatar fits nicely. Krogan indeed, spouting truth with harsh/colorful language. |
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Post by Mobius Y on Apr 28, 2017 18:29:52 GMT
lol. Oh Master, please teach this lowly one to use the mystical Cobra. I've shot its ball to no effect, I've shot it's ball multiple times to no effect, so massa, what's the secret? Same thing as the rifle- wait until the orb is stationary in front of him. If lag tells the host that your cobra impacted on the far side of the shield from the orb, it takes no damage, so just remove that risk entirely by shooting the one time it's stationary. This. |
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Post by 3rdpig on Apr 28, 2017 18:30:44 GMT
lol. Oh Master, please teach this lowly one to use the mystical Cobra. I've shot its ball to no effect, I've shot it's ball multiple times to no effect, so massa, what's the secret? Same thing as the rifle- wait until the orb is stationary in front of him. If lag tells the host that your cobra impacted on the far side of the shield from the orb, it takes no damage, so just remove that risk entirely by shooting the one time it's stationary. Thanks,that helps. |
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Post by dcihnagv3z on Apr 28, 2017 18:38:31 GMT
Depending on the kit I am running and where my teammates are located, sometimes I cobra the orb first to drop shield and then just gun the Ascended down. Other times I take the time to gun the orb down, then cobra the Ascended. Which can be annoying if power users start nocking the Ascended around causing me to whiff on my cobra shot.
If I am running an infiltrator/stealth grid kit, I rarely bother with the cobra, since destroying the orb happens fairly quickly.
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 28, 2017 18:39:47 GMT
Cobra RPG. Learn to use one. One? If it was one it might not be an issue. |
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Post by rolenka on Apr 28, 2017 19:28:07 GMT
It may be doable with consumables, but it's clearly out of line with difficulty.
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Post by kalil on Apr 28, 2017 19:32:41 GMT
As long as no idiot biotic throws the ascendant all you need is a decent sniper and focus fire.
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Post by gethadept on Apr 28, 2017 21:09:01 GMT
As long as no idiot biotic throws the ascendant all you need is a decent sniper and focus fire. Kinda ironic that Ascendant is one of toughest target to hit with Sniper rifle(Gotta wait for Orb to stop) yet it is most effective way to take him out(because nothing else really work well)... |
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Post by wnieves1 on Apr 28, 2017 21:32:55 GMT
My technic with the human sentinel, run up but not to close. Slam my barrier down, fire cobra then Energy drain-throw tech explosion. Empty clip from my talon to the head. Easy on silver. Haven't done it on gold yet. love taken on bosses. Sometimes at the expense of a insta kill.
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Post by Beerfish on Apr 28, 2017 21:33:30 GMT
some kett hackzones are worse than targets on silver if you ask me.
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Post by crashsuit on Apr 28, 2017 21:45:43 GMT
Ascendant assassination targets are actually pretty easy to deal with using a single combo. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 28, 2017 21:49:17 GMT
As long as no idiot biotic throws the ascendant all you need is a decent sniper and focus fire.  |
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Post by varicite on Apr 28, 2017 22:14:17 GMT
As long as no idiot biotic throws the ascendant all you need is a decent sniper and focus fire. Had a match yesterday where 3 of us were killed by a teleporting Fiend (it killed me even though I cobra'd him to the face and killed it... : / ), and the last guy had to solo an Ascendant. He proceeded to take 10 minutes to fight him. Every time he'd pop the orb, he'd immediately use Throw and waste the entire vulnerability window. He did this like 8 times before the 1 bullet he was able to hit the Ascendant w/ after each Throw finally killed him. I don't think I've ever been so frustrated and elated at the same time, lol. |
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 28, 2017 22:50:41 GMT
Yeah unfortunately biotic powers are even crap on the ascendant since even power combo detonations don't knock him down.
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Post by pitka17 on Apr 28, 2017 23:07:17 GMT
On Silver, having someone kill the non-target Fiend first help greatly.
Otherwise, you basically always need a good high accuracy weapon to deal with ascendant orbs. Sidewinder is the lightest option, tons of snipers also do the job but weight much more. Just not a weapon with awful spread.
Then for the ascendant itself is all about burst dps. Reload right BEFORE you pop the orb. A lot of it is about people not being jerks and throwing / charging / comboing immediately, thus screwing up everyones headshots! If you are being swarmed toss a rocket for good measure.
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Post by misguidedworm7 on Apr 28, 2017 23:08:09 GMT
Use the architect, lure him to the edge of the map, then punch him off the side.
The architect's cryo gauntlet is the only thing that freezes him solid and ragdolls him, causing him to actually fall out of the map and die, biotics just cause them to float off.
You can also just shoot him while frozen, or try to actually hit him again if the gauntlet is cooperative
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