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Post by zipzap2000 on May 1, 2017 4:10:31 GMT
Imagine you've wiped out nearly every angara or lost a war to them and then decided that you no longer have a purpose without them or some other AI BS logic that makes you insane.
(Angara describe wandering into empty, ready made cities in ancient times, the Remnant were gone.)
So you make new ones. You don't just start from scratch you put everything back how it was before this whole conflict got started. Away from the old one where whats left of the creators are. Or once lived, in order to avoid your "New Angara" from stumbling across what was left.
Like Okeer you refine each one more than the last, fully grown and educated when they leave the tank. But otherwise blank with no past to remember.
Workers, engineers, farmers, scientists etc. You make them all.
You give them the ability to hand down or trigger "memories" that seem to educate by touch.
They can master this technology nobody can understand or interact with, to an extent. Using them in a way that will never let them or others understand it. Provided with fleets they guard over and watch over the sites and cities and also Meridian, without ever even knowing it was there.
"Stars above."
"Stars and skies"
"By the stars"
These hint at the Angaran religion, obediently following the stars. Perhaps sone were chosen to be taken to the stars. Ascending to Meridian to become Jardaan.
Until the scourge is deployed. Someone figured it out and put an end to their plans.
A lot like the keepers and Protheans don't you think? A benign race intended to keep the secrets of the citadel hidden so civilization could advance using it, without deciphering it.
The Protheans ended their ability to activate the Citadel relay, the scourge would be the Andromeda equivalent.
The Jardaan on behalf of the Angara, like the Kett, like Okeer are all striving for genetic perfection.
This gives me the impression the Jaardan are a synthetic race/AI/Hybrid. Who were tasked with helping achieve genetic perfection for the first Angara.
Who are now the Kett.
The Jaardan rebelled and escaped to Heleus where it/they started over until the truth came out. The angara on board Meridian launched the scourge in a last effort to avoid another purge by the Jardaan. Who were pushing the reset button and using the vaults in reverse to purge the planets and start over.
Destroying most of their civilization in the process but giving the survivors hope. The Jardaan are only partially successful but Meridian will need to be reactivated by loyalist Angara. Using the vaults to track and fibd Meridian.
Until then the Jaardan are also powered down/In stasis. Waiting reactivation.
The Jardaan are not all dead, they are a Massive hidden threat just like the Reapers and the Quarian ark ran into trouble right after you reactivated Meridian.
Zip, out.
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Post by cheeseandonion on May 2, 2017 14:58:47 GMT
Fed up with all this ai, synthetic vs organic shite. Does Andromeda have a big red tube I can shoot?
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Post by dmc1001 on May 2, 2017 15:01:30 GMT
Fed up with all this ai, synthetic vs organic shite. Does Andromeda have a big red tube I can shoot? Nah, Shepard shot the only one available 600 years ago.
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Post by docklenator on May 2, 2017 20:53:28 GMT
Mark my words. The Jardaan and the Angara are one in the same. The Remnant weren't mass producing Angara to create life. The Jardaan were wiped out and Meridian settled Heleus so the Jardaan could be reborn. Jardaan aren't the Angara's creators, they are the Angara's ancestors. Watch.
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Post by kenshen19 on May 2, 2017 22:25:05 GMT
Mark my words. The Jardaan and the Angara are one in the same. The Remnant weren't mass producing Angara to create life. The Jardaan were wiped out and Meridian settled Heleus so the Jardaan could be reborn. Jardaan aren't the Angara's creators, they are the Angara's ancestors. Watch. Interesting theory. Mine is a lot like this but I was thinking it was the Angara that wiped out the Jardaan and are responsible for the scourge. Kind of like nuking themselves back to the dark ages in order to kill the enemy. Makes me wonder what else we will find outside the Heleus cluster other than more Kett. Speaking of the Kett haven't they been around for a long time (not just this cluster) i would think they have some intel on what happened. To bad the Primus didn't offer such intel as part of its deal I would have accepted that.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 3, 2017 3:06:04 GMT
There are at least two of you who didn't read through the post.
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Post by erikson on May 3, 2017 5:36:40 GMT
Fed up with all this ai, synthetic vs organic shite. Does Andromeda have a big red tube I can shoot? You lack the war assets necessary, play 200 hours of multiplayer and then maybe you will be able to.
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Post by docklenator on May 3, 2017 5:39:25 GMT
Just because people don't agree with you 100% doesn't mean they didn't read your post. Your theory is just not supported by very many facts from the game. Its nice speculation based on Angara's religious statements (which Angarans are not unique in looking skyward, so that's hardly an indicator) and not much more than.
The other Ideas, like that the Kett ARE the Angara are refuted within the game. Kett are "Exalting" Angara, but the Heleus cluster is just one assignment. The Kett have exalted "thousands."
As for the scourge, neither the Kett or Angara know anything about it and if either were related to it someone would have information on it. Possibly through Genetic memory? But no, no one has a clue yet.
I'm not saying your idea is wrong, but it is far from such a flawless gem that you'd be justified in dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as someone who "OBVIOUSLY" just didn't read your post, as if that'd be the ONLY reason a logical person wouldn't agree with you.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 3, 2017 5:47:48 GMT
Just because people don't agree with you 100% doesn't mean they didn't read your post. Your theory is just not supported by very many facts from the game. Its nice speculation based on Angara's religious statements (which Angarans are not unique in looking skyward, so that's hardly an indicator) and not much more than. The other Ideas, like that the Kett ARE the Angara are refuted within the game. Kett are "Exalting" Angara, but the Heleus cluster is just one assignment. The Kett have exalted "thousands." As for the scourge, neither the Kett or Angara know anything about it and if either were related to it someone would have information on it. Possibly through Genetic memory? But no, no one has a clue yet. I'm not saying your idea is wrong, but it is far from such a flawless gem that you'd be justified in dismissing anyone who disagrees with you as someone who "OBVIOUSLY" just didn't read your post, as if that'd be the ONLY reason a logical person wouldn't agree with you. I didnt say you were one of them. *Sips Ryncol*
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Post by docklenator on May 3, 2017 5:51:31 GMT
Indeed *toasts*
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Post by dadithinkimgay on May 4, 2017 2:09:50 GMT
Mark my words. The Jardaan and the Angara are one in the same. The Remnant weren't mass producing Angara to create life. The Jardaan were wiped out and Meridian settled Heleus so the Jardaan could be reborn. Jardaan aren't the Angara's creators, they are the Angara's ancestors. Watch. I know it may be nothing but the jaardan literally have the same accent as the Angara
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Post by docklenator on May 4, 2017 2:25:54 GMT
Mark my words. The Jardaan and the Angara are one in the same. The Remnant weren't mass producing Angara to create life. The Jardaan were wiped out and Meridian settled Heleus so the Jardaan could be reborn. Jardaan aren't the Angara's creators, they are the Angara's ancestors. Watch. I know it may be nothing but the jaardan literally have the same accent as the Angara Lmao and Anciet remnant fighter pilots have similar design to Angaran gear.
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Post by Psychevore on May 4, 2017 9:26:33 GMT
Fed up with all this ai, synthetic vs organic shite. Does Andromeda have a big red tube I can shoot? Really loving it they kept that theme, and I'm really hoping the Jardaan are an AI species that whiped every organic life from the cluster and went 'oh shit, what have we done?' and then started to create life out of sheer guilt. Which then rebels against them in a new creator/created conflict.
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Post by djbare on May 5, 2017 10:24:32 GMT
Just throwing this out there, I think the Kett have the same creators as the Angaran, one of two possibilities, the Kett were the military, the Angaran the gardeners so to speak, the other possibility is the Kett is a corruption of Angaran creation, the Jardaan screwed up, possibly why things went awry for them.
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Post by LilTIM on May 7, 2017 0:06:51 GMT
Looking at the remnant tech i also figured that the Jardaan were an AI race, who created the Angara for unknown reasons. Basically reversing the MET creator thingie. At some point someone opposed the Jardaan's experiments, and created the Scourge to kill all jardaan technology and created lifeforms, and probably the Kett are related to this too, considernig how much they hate AIs.
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Post by Obadiah on May 8, 2017 3:00:36 GMT
Its a theory. I like it.
Wonder what the Scourge even is to be able to do what it does.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on May 8, 2017 7:55:55 GMT
EDIT: nvm
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