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Post by duskwanderer on May 2, 2017 0:25:12 GMT
Going off of a rather interesting topic in the original trilogy section, I thought I'd post it here: Anyone have opinions outside what most fans think? Anyone not mind the facial animations, think Addison and Tann are the best characters in the game? Enjoy Sara Ryder's creepy smile?
Here's a few of my unpopular opinions:
1.) BioWARE shot themselves in the foot by not letting us be actual colonials. They should've given us a pre-spaceflight race of people to deal with, maybe even to conquer or use against the kett.
2.) Liam could've been better, but he wasn't bad.
3.) Jaal and Drack were the worst squaddies ever. Jaal was a wuss and Drack was an arrogant racist who should've been spaced. They should've given us Evfra (or the Moshae) and
4.) The cultural exchange was great. Not as a joke, or as propaganda, but as actual politics.
5.) The fact that BioWARE is wasting valuable bug-fixing time on an optional and useless character like Hainly Abrams shows us how far they've fallen.
6.) Why does everyone complain about Gil not getting a great sex scene and not Suvi? Do they hate lesbians? That's a joke, of course.
7.) Tann's voice didn't work, but the character grew on me. I actually liked him by the end.
What about yours?
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Post by Ark on May 2, 2017 0:34:49 GMT
I feel like they missed an opportunity to let us see contact war 2.0 by not making the Angara the first antagonists of Andromeda. I mean introduce the Kett in MEA2 by all means... after we've established a tentative peace with the Angara. I have no idea as to how unpopular that idea is, I just feel kinda guilty that I want that as much as I do.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 2, 2017 0:51:21 GMT
SAM is an awesome, adorable robo bro, and I want more symbiotic AI in the future.
Tann grew on me too. He's a dramatic improvement over the Citadel Council.
Angara thumb feet are super creepy.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 2, 2017 0:56:50 GMT
- Bioware went full on SJW by making the AI a pussier version of the "federation"....if the mysterious benefactor is who we think it is then we should have had fucking warships
- Bioware axed ALL of the truly alien races...possible out of incompetence in coming for frostbite (they would have all required unique skeletons and animations)....funny how the nexus is an interspecies station carrying members of every race but ooops...not a single hanar or elcor or volus leaving ALL of them to the Quarians to take the burden of dealing with all their unique needs.
- Bioware fixed the N7 crusader glitch only to Nerf it....god dammit bioware
- Angara are fucking pointless
- I want Shepard back
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Post by docklenator on May 2, 2017 0:57:37 GMT
Yeah, I really like the game. I think Bioware did a great job on a massively ambitious project and I'm excited to see how they expand this entry in the coming months. I didn't expect perfection, just another solid ME and thats exactly what I got.
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Post by colfoley on May 2, 2017 1:09:07 GMT
I actually love the game...
By and large the animations don't bother me.
I think the side quests were well done.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 2, 2017 1:14:19 GMT
I really enjoy this game, more with each PT.
I love SAM.
I love Sara (though play as Scott).
I don't like Jaal.
Liam isn't the worst character in the game, or even the squad.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 2, 2017 2:54:06 GMT
All my opinions are unpopular.
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 2, 2017 3:01:54 GMT
I think the Kett are more interesting than the Reapers, and that the ending is the best of any game in the series. Is that unpopular? I want to play too.
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Post by smilesja on May 2, 2017 3:26:37 GMT
The game is good and I feel it's getting an unfair shake.
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Post by Element Zero on May 2, 2017 3:55:02 GMT
I like the game, and think that most animations are pretty good, as of v1.05. (There is still the "Alec is dead?" scene.)
I think the side quests are by and large excellent.
PeeBee, despite my months of doubt, is very likable. I like nearly everyone a lot, and I'm still trying to enjoy Liam.
I love Vetra as an active squadmate; particularly paired with her buddy Drack. She's very boring aboard Tempest, though. We barely speak, unless it's leading up to her LM. She never has anything to say. (Maybe a romance Vetra is more engaging, but I can't make Ryder romance a turian. Ugh.)
I have no complaints about the "writing". I prefer less jaunty dialogue, but I don't think most of what we got was bad. The story is also not the disjointed, disconnected mess that many easily distracted people claim. It you pay attention to the game as you're playing it, it flows well.
While it will take many more adventures, and a bit more RP variety, for this crew to match Shepard and the Normandy cast, this is the single best ME game. (That said, I feel that people new to ME should start from the beginning. MEA is an evolution that requires OT experience to truly appreciate.)
Most of the people still complaining about the game just like to ride on the bitch-train. The only real problems with the game are the inexcusable technical issues. Other passionate complaints are rubbish. (Every game merits some reasonable criticism.)
Cry-babies, and the cry-baby threads, are drowning the good, enjoyable conversations I'd rather be having on the BSN.
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Post by bryanky5 on May 2, 2017 3:57:47 GMT
I think it's better than the Witcher 3
Just kidding
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Post by riotinducer on May 2, 2017 4:28:20 GMT
I haven't delved into a lot of the story criticism threads here, I can only take so much salt in one sitting after all. But based on what people are saying here.
People hate Liam? Imo he's the best human male squadmate we've had, aside from Vega anyways. He's leagues beyond Jacob and ME1 Kaidan (ME3 improved Kaidan a LOT). The only issues I have with him is he becomes weirdly confrontational in some banter dialogue and he's not a romance option for male player characters.
Overall I really enjoy the game, I haven't encountered too many technical issues (in single player at least, lets not talk about MP). Story was great imo and exploration/side quests were more enjoyable and rewarding than ME1 or DAI, the two other recent bioware titles that featured more open maps.
I find the crew lineup to be great, Cora and Gil I'm a bit lukewarm on but they're growing on me more as I do more playthroughs.
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Post by colfoley on May 2, 2017 4:54:16 GMT
I think it's better than the Witcher 3 Just kiddingWell I think its better then Witcher 3 and I'm not joking.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 2, 2017 5:21:48 GMT
I think it's better than the Witcher 3 Just kiddingThe only thing the witcher has over MEA is adult tones a massive city and Gwent. Outside of that I agree I didnt like the witcher 2-3 and found a bit of a dull ride. Combat in part 2 was actually worse and graphically the PC version was probably less interesting than MEA on PS4 in some sections. (Not including an opening scene with an assault on a castle and boobs.) After that it went badly for me. I say for me because I see what other people enjoy about it I just I'm over swords goblins and magic to a degree. ME OT over the Witcher any day of the week.
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Post by bryanky5 on May 2, 2017 5:39:15 GMT
I think it's better than the Witcher 3 Just kiddingThe only thing the witcher has over MEA is adult tones a massive city and Gwent. Outside of that I agree I didnt like the witcher 2-3 and found a bit of a dull ride. Combat in part 2 was actually worse and graphically the PC version was probably less interesting than MEA on PS4 in some sections. (Not including an opening scene with an assault on a castle and boobs.) After that it went badly for me. I say for me because I see what other people enjoy about it I just I'm over swords goblins and magic to a degree. ME OT over the Witcher any day of the week. I refuse to form a counter argument because I'm bad at arguing and there's already enough opinions on this subject It'd be easier if everyone just agreed with me all the time
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Post by phantomrachie on May 2, 2017 9:16:03 GMT
MEA does everything ME1 did and most of it is better. Better combat, inventory management, crew, planet exploration.
The Tempest Crew are the best crew in a single Mass Effect game.
The ending is second only to the ME2 ending and it's a close race.
I like that Ryder is young and inexperienced, it gives her a nice character arch in one game and it took three games for Shep to have a character arch.
The Kett are more interesting and have more potential than the Reapers.
While it does have some dicey dialogue, most the writing is on par with the OT
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Post by NUM13ER on May 2, 2017 14:18:55 GMT
I haven't delved into a lot of the story criticism threads here, I can only take so much salt in one sitting after all. But based on what people are saying here. People hate Liam? Imo he's the best human male squadmate we've had, aside from Vega anyways. He's leagues beyond Jacob and ME1 Kaidan (ME3 improved Kaidan a LOT). The only issues I have with him is he becomes weirdly confrontational in some banter dialogue and he's not a romance option for male player characters. That's a very small sample size considering there has only been three human males on the team prior without including DLC and Vega is still better in your opinion. And in the esteemed company of charisma vacuums like Kaidan or Jacob it's even less of an achievement. (If we include DLC then Zaeed Massani is better too IMO)
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Post by dmc1001 on May 2, 2017 15:03:59 GMT
I think the Kett are more interesting than the Reapers, and that the ending is the best of any game in the series. Is that unpopular? I want to play too. Sure, because the game didn't kill us or our squadmates. This time around BioWare actually tried to allow everyone to live.
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Post by FeralEwok on May 2, 2017 17:44:58 GMT
Peebee is my favorite Bioware romance since Liara (and if given 3 games too she might replace her ) Also she's my favorite companion in the game.
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Post by abaris on May 2, 2017 19:32:13 GMT
The Kett are more interesting and have more potential than the Reapers. While it does have some dicey dialogue, most the writing is on par with the OT Writing's OK. Not running for the Oscars or the Pulitzer, but OK. I hesitated to get the game, but after playing it, I don't understand the hatred. The Kett, well, so far they're as onedimensional as the Reapers. The ending was good, but turn MEA into a series and they may write themselves into a corner again. Complete with red, green and blue explosions. I have nothing against squaddies dying, if it makes sense. As for the player dying. That should only happen if you screw up in your decisions.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 19:54:59 GMT
I think I cannot be more alone if I stood on a tiny little patch of newly emerged lava in the middle of a wide ocean, but here goes nothing:
I love the ending of the game! This is the first game since 2016 that ended up well for me! I felt great being a beloved hero again! No matter what I was and what responses I chose, and whom I romanced.
M!Ryder is more awesome as emotional/casual than the F!Ryder. He is no douche, he is a Smuggler from SWTOR!
I feel like I am playing the 9th Class Story from SWTOR, and I LOVE it.
I liked Addison and her acknowledging Ryder's accomplishments actually felt good after all the scolding.
Cora's my BFF, not Vetra (I like Vetra, but Cora's BFF!)
I really dig Liam. Should have romanced him. I rue the day I decided to go with Jaal instead.
Jaal should have died ingloriously if Ryder did not shoot Akksul despite him going on and on about trust. At his talking speed, it's normal to tune him out way before he gets to the point.
I want to play as Exile Vidal rather than Pathfinder Ryder, recovering the SAM tech or making do with stealing a genius hacker's PeeBee's tech to get into the Vaults (killing her in the process, perhaps) or capturing Hyperion before it could dock with Nexus. Then maybe, maybe if my PC was magnanimous s/he could have assumed the mantle of the Pathfinder and work for the good of Nexus, otherwise, piracy and conquest 'twas.
Companions should be killable.
Gil is a Male Quarian. It's like Sten, he is a Qunari before they had a paper-doll for it. Yep, that's it. Next expansion we are getting a new model for him, you'll see.
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Post by sungrey on May 2, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
Jaal doesn't do anything for me as a character.
I'm tired of the krogan and their thuggish mentality. I wish they would have remained in the Milky Way Galaxy and we had other alien races take their place as a wild card/threat.
Peebee is OK, but I feel like I'm breaking the law by romancing her.
I like Cora's hairstyle.
We don't need a canon ME3 ending for ME:A. It's been 633 years since the end of ME3, so BioWare could be vague (and I mean very vague) about the outcome of the Reaper War if the Initiative ever re-establishes contact with the Milky Way Galaxy. The only ME3 ending that wouldn't be viable is Refusal.
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Post by sungrey on May 2, 2017 20:28:17 GMT
Gil is a Male Quarian. It's like Sten, he is a Qunari before they had a paper-doll for it. Yep, that's it. Next expansion we are getting a new model for him, you'll see. Or he's the ME:A equivalent of James Vega, the human stand-in for a krogan companion in ME3.
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Post by smellycatbutts on May 2, 2017 22:01:14 GMT
Asari are hardly the master race BW wants them to be. Any PC can murder them all with ease.
Default Scott Ryder is ugly as fuck.
Kallo should replace either Cora or Peepee as a romance.
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