Is Black Widow worthy?

I have mine at 3.

I am saying this as a scrub sniper... but Vanquisher is probably better simply because it has bigger clip size and faster fire rate.

Black widow hits harder than Vanquisher... but Vanquisher already deals over 1000 damage per shot with right setting. Most of the time the extra damage of B.Widow ends up being wasted.

It doesn't suck, but you need it maxed to compete with the much easier to get Vanq, and you're literally always a bullet behind

First SR I got was the BW, but after the challenge was over and vanq landed on my lap, I placed it back in the vault. It was level 3 BW 

I like how the sniper rifle receiver mod works with the Black Widow (bugged on the Vanquisher). It is heavy at Rank 1 and the firing and reload time feel slower than the ME3 version. Still, a good change of pace from the Vanquisher.

Yeah, i'm over the Vanq at this point.

I really like the Widow but it is outclassed by the Ishray and of course you are constantly reloading which gets old pretty quick.

At least I haven't seen anyone saying it is utter garbage, which is what I was worried about considering a lot of the other beloved guns are crap now.

Tbh right now I don't think it's worth debating what or which is better in the game's current state.

I'd wager that BW will be vastly superior to the Vanquisher when the new patches come out.

We will all have Vanquisher X hundreds of hours before we have Black Widow X. So how they compare is essentially irrelevant.

But I will also take the bet. I don't think any weapons tweaks will make the Black Widow 'vastly superior' to the Vanquisher.

Yeah I mean, unless they realize how badly they fucked up all of the Ultra Rares, I don't see them making a huge change. They've said over and over that they're going to make "iterative" changes (second iterative change still nowhere in sight, 4 weeks after the last lul). I do expect them to bring the Vanquisher down so it's not the King though.

At rank 4 it does 1 more damage per shot than the Vanquisher at rank 10, so ya I suppose if you have the BW high enough it's fine to take if you're wanting something different (it certainly feels more satisfying than the Vanq in terms of sound...really kicks like a beast), but seeing as how the Vanquisher 10 with a level 10 barrel mod will already one shot most enemies on gold, has an extra shot in the clip, more ammo, is lighter, and shoots faster....the BW ultimately ends up in a spot where it's extra damage per shot is likely superfluous most of the time, and doesn't spread the pain around fast enough to make it worth carrying the extra weight. At least if you're trying to max potential efficiency

I still haven't gotten Hurricane or Piranha.  *sigh*   Also still missing Soned, Eagle, Ushior, Halberd, PAW and Inferno.

If the BW had innate piercing like it did in ME3 then that would be an advantage over the Vanquisher. Given that piercing isn't 100% working in MEA, I wonder if the BW is supposed to have it but it just doesn't work, or something.

Black widow is probably better than the vanquisher at X but good luck getting it there. You can shoot enemies through cover with it which you can't do with the vanquisher.