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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 7, 2016 14:25:37 GMT
This is a fun character, at least for the three matches I have played since unlocking her. I was running a 6/4/4/6/6 build using the Purrana (the shotgun that fires lolcats) with the blade attachment to preserve cooldowns and using snap cheese to soften enemies up before karate kicking them in the face. I have been advised by Mister Onion (not sure if he's a part of this forum or not) that I would do well to abandon snap cheese and max out repair matrix instead, then use grenade capacity mods. Obviously noob matrix helps survivability, especially when punching Praetorians right in the kisser ( asking for a friend), although I'm still learning the best times to activate it other than right before eating Atlas rockets. AIU's heavy melee seems to have a very poor range and doesn't "lock on" well like Krogan Ultimate Heavy Melee does, although launching enemies is loads of fun. It also seems to not hit well on ramps/stairs. Is the Bat Gauntlet a waste of time on her or can it be awesome? Please help me TIGER UPPERCUT all the enemies!
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Post by GordianKnot42 on Sept 7, 2016 14:46:06 GMT
Bat Gauntlet would defeat her main strength, which is the speed that she whacks enemies into the air. You do have to line up the hit. I usually cloak-->Wraith shot-->heavy melee for the kill to keep the 75% bonus up, then I go around cloak-->heavy meleeing as many Marauders as I can in retaliation for their damn People's Elbow.
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Post by GordianKnot42 on Sept 7, 2016 14:48:47 GMT
Also, I don't think maxing Cheese Matrix is worth it. I only put 3 in it, and it's only as a last resort if I'm being totally swarmed or caught in a crossfire, or if I'm suicide reviving someone. If you take note of your surroundings you shouldn't be needing it that much. (I use Shock Trooper gear for a total of four grenades, and I never really run down to zero.) And Snap Cheese is a good armor debuffer.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 7, 2016 16:06:55 GMT
Mr Onion's recommendation made me feel slightly nauseous. I try not to use RM at all, and will generally only have 2 of them, or sometimes 4 if I choose Shocktrooper Gear, which is rare. Berzerker Gear is the 'cool' choice, while Geth Scanner is obviously safer and quicker overall. An Adrenaline mod is generally just as useful as RM anyway - the enemy can't hit you if you're a glorified motion blur. As I said in the other thread, the Crusader makes the best Omniblade holder. She's less likely to be tempted to shoot it at mooks, and so will melee them all, while taking on the larger boss enemies with a Snap Freeze - Bang - Bang - Bang - Bang - RC into melee. I sometimes only put 4 ranks in SF, as I struggle to remember if it's bugged or not beyond that point, and have never really noticed much difference anyway. Basically, there are two ways to play the AIU - full Reegar cheese so you can feel good about yourself at the top of the scoreboard, or actual fun. Fun wins every time, and with pugs you will invariably top the scoreboard too. Win win.
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 7, 2016 16:17:51 GMT
This is a fun character, at least for the three matches I have played since unlocking her. I was running a 6/4/4/6/6 build using the Purrana (the shotgun that fires lolcats) with the blade attachment to preserve cooldowns and using snap cheese to soften enemies up before karate kicking them in the face. I have been advised by Mister Onion (not sure if he's a part of this forum or not) that I would do well to abandon snap cheese and max out repair matrix instead, then use grenade capacity mods. Obviously noob matrix helps survivability, especially when punching Praetorians right in the kisser ( asking for a friend), although I'm still learning the best times to activate it other than right before eating Atlas rockets. AIU's heavy melee seems to have a very poor range and doesn't "lock on" well like Krogan Ultimate Heavy Melee does, although launching enemies is loads of fun. It also seems to not hit well on ramps/stairs. Is the Bat Gauntlet a waste of time on her or can it be awesome? Please help me TIGER UPPERCUT all the enemies! I love how Moe, after half a second of shock and awe at Curly uppercutting that guy through the roof, goes back to being mad at him for it. He's so one-dimensional!
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 7, 2016 17:11:08 GMT
Mr Onion's recommendation made me feel slightly nauseous. I try not to use RM at all, and will generally only have 2 of them, or sometimes 4 if I choose Shocktrooper Gear, which is rare. Berzerker Gear is the 'cool' choice, while Geth Scanner is obviously safer and quicker overall. An Adrenaline mod is generally just as useful as RM anyway - the enemy can't hit you if you're a glorified motion blur. As I said in the other thread, the Crusader makes the best Omniblade holder. She's less likely to be tempted to shoot it at mooks, and so will melee them all, while taking on the larger boss enemies with a Snap Freeze - Bang - Bang - Bang - Bang - RC into melee. I sometimes only put 4 ranks in SF, as I struggle to remember if it's bugged or not beyond that point, and have never really noticed much difference anyway. Basically, there are two ways to play the AIU - full Reegar cheese so you can feel good about yourself at the top of the scoreboard, or actual fun. Fun wins every time, and with pugs you will invariably top the scoreboard too. Win win. Good call on Crusader for Melee AIU. I just played a pug Reapers match on Gold with this and 4 in Snap Cheese/Passives and this was great.
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Post by Robo on Sept 7, 2016 18:56:38 GMT
just never use the reegar thing and you should be fine
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Post by Mission_Scrubbed on Sept 8, 2016 3:18:02 GMT
just never use the reegar thing and you should be fine This. So much this. I've seen some of them sporting Sniper and Assault rifles, much more interesting to say the least.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 8, 2016 3:53:11 GMT
just never use the reegar thing and you should be fine I have moved to 100% TGI Carrier
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Post by MPApr2012 on Sept 9, 2016 2:35:08 GMT
Mr Onion's recommendation made me feel slightly nauseous. I try not to use RM at all, and will generally only have 2 of them, or sometimes 4 if I choose Shocktrooper Gear, which is rare. Berzerker Gear is the 'cool' choice, while Geth Scanner is obviously safer and quicker overall. An Adrenaline mod is generally just as useful as RM anyway - the enemy can't hit you if you're a glorified motion blur. As I said in the other thread, the Crusader makes the best Omniblade holder. She's less likely to be tempted to shoot it at mooks, and so will melee them all, while taking on the larger boss enemies with a Snap Freeze - Bang - Bang - Bang - Bang - RC into melee. I sometimes only put 4 ranks in SF, as I struggle to remember if it's bugged or not beyond that point, and have never really noticed much difference anyway. Basically, there are two ways to play the AIU - full Reegar cheese so you can feel good about yourself at the top of the scoreboard, or actual fun. Fun wins every time, and with pugs you will invariably top the scoreboard too. Win win. Good call on Crusader for Melee AIU. I just played a pug Reapers match on Gold with this and 4 in Snap Cheese/Passives and this was great. ...or good'ol Raider for the upclosenpersonal gameplay. with Crusader i personnally tend to miss and rather badly in CQC (cant' even blame that bug i'm hosting most of the time) whereas with Raider... not so much Omniblade + Smart Choke as a "safer" option, or just a Blade+Barrel combination but then have to stay close consistently which can get messy
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Post by frankiscrank on Sept 9, 2016 23:55:23 GMT
AIUs heavy melee locks on fine for me. Maybe it's an loloffhost issue or poor timing or wrong feeling for the distance or lag or the distance causing the lag or all is your fault. Dunno. +1,2367 for Crusader.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Sept 16, 2016 15:31:26 GMT
I vote for the little Asari shotgun (I forget the name.)
I mean, if you're going to commit to melee, why not force yourself into "succeed or die" territory? Should be a fast way to learn... or entertain your teammates. One of the two.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 16, 2016 17:05:28 GMT
Disciple. And it's not a bad omniblade holder. Disciple has a really high stun rate on infantry so it will give a little something.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 16, 2016 17:21:10 GMT
I mean, if you're going to commit to melee, why not force yourself into "succeed or die" territory? The Scimitar has stepped up admirably to fill that role
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Post by Sinapus on Sept 17, 2016 8:11:54 GMT
Disciple is a very good weapon to use the omniblade with. My Shadow melee build uses that to boost damage further.
I have an odd spec for the AIU. I specced the stats to make melee attacks more powerful though I still used ranged attacks a lot. I mainly snipe lots of enemies and finish off stragglers with melee attacks.
AIU Reegar can be fun, but I find it's range limitation to be a bit annoying.
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Post by BlackMage on Sept 17, 2016 16:12:43 GMT
AIU Reegar can be fun, but I find it's range limitation to be a bit annoying. Where's the "UNLIKE" button when you need it?
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Post by Sentinel2010 on Sept 17, 2016 22:51:03 GMT
The best example I have ever seen of using this kit.
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Post by Sinapus on Sept 19, 2016 3:34:10 GMT
Yeah, I tend to shoot a-bombs unless I'm using a Shadow or Batarian. Krogan can sometimes knock them out of blast radius, or into teammates, but shooting them usually works better.
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Post by K_O_513 on Sept 19, 2016 4:25:44 GMT
cloak snap freeze shoryuken profit
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 19, 2016 5:06:05 GMT
Thanks for the many recommendations. While I will consider all when respeccing EdiTron9000, I've been sticking with the 6/4/4/6/6 build and it has worked out pretty well. For shotguns, I either take the Purrana, Raider, or Scummytar with the lolmniblade or drop to the metal blade if I'm worried about cooldowns. However, I've recently enjoyed the Lancer with the wimpier assault rifle lolmniblade as this is a light build that allows for longer distance engagements when needed (plus I just like ARs better than shotguns). Of late, I've actually tried to avoid meleeing bosses (although this is an important topic covered in four chapters of the Saikyo-ryu handbook) and just run around laying out the mooks. Also, I have not been using Snap Fromage enough. I am clearly self-trolling. Pictured: Snap Cheez
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Post by K_O_513 on Sept 19, 2016 6:16:15 GMT
meleeing bosses is the most fun. when using a melee character, having a "no shits given" mentality is vital to maximizing both fun and success. that doesn't mean play like an idiot, but you should definitely be as aggressive as possible. kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#5A!3017545!!..Q563!CFE38 (i pasted that from mobile so hopefully it shows up) basically im all about offense, and my build is focused on that. also, i hardly put in anything into the passive tree because when i use a melee character, i have to pretty much be solely using melee. i slapped the reegar on her just to have an easy way to deal with guardians and geth prime pets
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Post by SalMasRac on Sept 19, 2016 6:20:47 GMT
meleeing bosses is the most fun. when using a melee character, having a "no shits given" mentality is vital to maximizing both fun and success. that doesn't mean play like an idiot, but you should definitely be as aggressive as possible. kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#5A!30075!!..Q563!CFE38G (i pasted that from mobile so hopefully it shows up) basically im all about offense, and my build is focused on that. also, i hardly put in anything into the passive tree because when i use a melee character, i have to pretty much be solely using melee. i slapped the reegar on her just to have an easy way to deal with guardians and geth prime pets nope didn't work, try the new url instead kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#1!!!!
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Post by K_O_513 on Sept 19, 2016 6:43:59 GMT
meleeing bosses is the most fun. when using a melee character, having a "no shits given" mentality is vital to maximizing both fun and success. that doesn't mean play like an idiot, but you should definitely be as aggressive as possible. kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#5A!30075!!..Q563!CFE38G (i pasted that from mobile so hopefully it shows up) basically im all about offense, and my build is focused on that. also, i hardly put in anything into the passive tree because when i use a melee character, i have to pretty much be solely using melee. i slapped the reegar on her just to have an easy way to deal with guardians and geth prime pets nope didn't work, try the new url instead kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#1!!!! thanks here, try this instead kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#5A!3017545!!..Q563!CFE38
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Post by K_O_513 on Sept 19, 2016 6:50:46 GMT
screw it, that didn't work either. oh well. it's 5/6/6/3/6. emphasis is on melee and melee alone.
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Post by Sinapus on Sept 19, 2016 10:35:30 GMT
My "Another sort of Incendiary Ammo Cheese" build is: Kalence LinkEdit: It looks like putting a title in for the link makes it work w/o truncating it. Weapons can be swapped around. I generally have a main weapon that I shoot enemies with and a secondary with one of the +25% melee damage bonuses, usually an GPR w/blade or a Phalanx w/stunner. The Indra can be fired accurately w/o the stabilizer in short bursts. I just find it a lot easier to concentrate fire on a target w/the stabilizer options. I usually don't use many armor consumables besides adrenaline w/the AIU. Sometimes those shield recharge delay ones since they build up a lot and I might as well expend them. Melee is generally: Cloak, run to target, snap freeze, shoryuken and either shoot or roundhouse kick it to death if it's still alive. Shooting tactic is generally: Cloak, run to flanking position, open fire on unsuspecting targets and then vanish back into cloak after cooldown to go after the next enemy or fire from another angle. I think it's my only Infiltrator build that doesn't use bonus power on cloak. Duration since I don't use cloak for damage bonus, I use it to sneak around and shoot people in the back. Or grab them from behind cover and stab them in the face. I could adjust repair matrix, but it seems to work better for me at full power even if I don't use it too often unless it's a really bad game. That and pizza deliveries are slightly faster. ;-)
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