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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 17:57:38 GMT
First run-through of this game I enjoyed it quite a lot I'm not gonna lie...but...yeah I can't see myself doing another play-through for a long time. Oooh let's do another 70 hour campaign as a slightly less sarcastic/funny version of the character I was the first time. Maybe I'll save a minor character that nobody gives a hoot about instead of killing her or maybe I'll destroy a base instead of rescuing people for all of the 3 minutes of which it means something to certain characters. Decisions, decisions.
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Post by colfoley on May 6, 2017 20:24:15 GMT
On the one hand i am noticing more bugs due to the new game b plus...but on the other hand my appreciation of just how well written this game is continues to increase. There are just so many little throw away subtle lines i dismissed my first pt but now make so much more sense.
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Post by paradigm on May 6, 2017 20:50:50 GMT
I can't do 2nd play through. After finishing the game I tried to start a new one. The one I would play deeply, see and do it all. The one that would be imported into the next game. Couldn't get past the character creator. It's just so awful. Ugly characters. And the two times I decided to settle and see how it looked in the game it was even worse, cause the characters looked worse in-game and the animations are terrible.
So I'm holding off on Bioware patching/updating before I play again. If they don't fix it for this game, I doubt I'll pick up the next game.
Also, since I don't think I could make my character's personality noticeably different, it's hard to feel motivated about going through again.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 6, 2017 22:09:07 GMT
I remember my first hot dog it was greasy and burnt but i loved it and didn't drop a crumb. A week later my father took me back that way and i had another. This time i wasn't thrilled with the overcooked greasy dog. This has nothing to do with a video game experience i just wanted to share this.....😂 Honestly buddy we all want to look past error in our favorite games and it goes to a point of pretending we don't see fault. I did this for Fallout New Vegas off the bat. Now that the glimmer and freshness is off your first play and you know what to expect. You see things alot different now and the smallest issues are very noticeable. Ps Two plays down for myself and a third on its way when the game is more patched and less buggy. I felt very much the same as you and was even more let down by the real lack of different choices and changes of both plays.😢 We're on the same sheet. I just can't wait because the new rig is going to give me the feels regardless of what I already know. I know it's silly, but dog-gone-it I cannot wait. Especially to see Inquisition again on the new screen. This rig didn't do it justice. It still won't cover the unpolished voice acting, amateur-hour writing, etc. but I can still appreciate the art and the function (which is improving, but still lacks PC-style controls) and the music in every title but Andromeda. I can still compliment, but I still have to criticize because I can't be politically correct and feel good about myself. I'm going to decorate the front of the rig with the BioWare symbol and the Frostbite logo. Be jealous Bethesda, CDPR, etc.
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Post by outlaworacle on May 7, 2017 2:19:32 GMT
I think the weird pacing and the overabundance of mundane open world junk are the game's biggest problems. They're definitely my turn-offs, although there is still a great game in there somewhere.
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Post by MajorAssman on May 7, 2017 2:40:09 GMT
Foe me it is the opposite because now I know what to avoid. Sabotaged electrical panels on the nexus who gives a fuck, medical caches, don't care, drones, find them yourself. Main missions, monoliths, vaults and loyalty stuff.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 7, 2017 3:15:15 GMT
I uninstalled the game. Not even interested in the MP after several hours of it, just no zest to it. I went back to ME3 MP. Might reinstall MEA after a few years. I don't know. I have little interest in whatever else they plan for the future of the franchise after seeing what they have done with MEA. I've shipped with MET and onwards in the universe of my own making.
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Post by hobocommand3r on May 7, 2017 13:15:58 GMT
Same, I liked it a lot on the first but on the 2nd it's becoming apparent how the worlds are pretty barren and the game makes you do way too many meaningless back and forth quest where you just spend a ton of time travelling between locations for no good reason or reward and it gets pretty annoying after a while.
The planets should have been smaller and had more interesting monsters on them. Possibly some boss monster lairs and stuff would have been cool. There should have been worthwhile loot for you to hunt but nothing you can find can compare to stuff you can craft (except fusion mods). There should have been some unique placed items that you could find but you'd have to fight through a hard dungeon to get to them basically.
I've played hundreds of hours in skyrim but can't do it in this, the worlds are simply too empty. They are really big but the game doesn't actually give me much incentive to go exploring.
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Post by goishen on May 7, 2017 14:22:23 GMT
It's like this. Back then (about 2003-2007 era), we were all aching for an open world game. Where you could go, explore, do stuff. Doesn't matter if it's connected to the story or not.
Then you have games like Skyrim come out. Now, I don't want to take anything away from Skyrim... But that satisfies a whole lotta peoples' need for open world games. Like 7/8th's of them. Or 9/10th's of them. I dunno, 'cause I don't have the numbers in front of me, if they even exist. You also have games like GTA, SR, several other games come out.
Then you have ME plodding along making these games like the ME trilogy. These games are on-rail third person shooters. I don't even like the term third person shooter, because it doesn't accurately describe what ME is. You wanna make a part of the crit path where people can choose to go or not go? Fine. You wanna put some asshat out in the middle of nothing on a planet that no one would ever think of that's part of a companion quest Fine.
But don't start tossing quests at us like lightning bolts like some kid on ritalin doing LARP. That's like tossing shit against a wall and seeing what sticks. That's not active game development.
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Post by mofojokers on May 7, 2017 14:31:10 GMT
Same, I liked it a lot on the first but on the 2nd it's becoming apparent how the worlds are pretty barren and the game makes you do way too many meaningless back and forth quest where you just spend a ton of time travelling between locations for no good reason or reward and it gets pretty annoying after a while. The planets should have been smaller and had more interesting monsters on them. Possibly some boss monster lairs and stuff would have been cool. There should have been worthwhile loot for you to hunt but nothing you can find can compare to stuff you can craft (except fusion mods). There should have been some unique placed items that you could find but you'd have to fight through a hard dungeon to get to them basically. I've played hundreds of hours in skyrim but can't do it in this, the worlds are simply too empty. They are really big but the game doesn't actually give me much incentive to go exploring. Yeah i found this as well I've easily done 1000s of hours of Skyrim over the years. Yet even to this day i can go out exploring and always find something interesting. Skyrim xbox 360 Skyrim pc for modding new plays Skyrim remastered for ps4 God i don't think i have played any games more than i have Morrowind , Oblivion and Skyrim. I was sorta hoping that MEA exploring especially how they hyped it. That it was going to be maps like Skyrim. Living , breaking worlds that you influence the ones living their day to day lives. While the main story would of been more akin to that found in Witcher 3 in intense telling. With choices and decisions of depth only found in the original Mass effect series and companion style better than DAI. Especially for games these days in 2017... alot more is expected especially when building on a beloved universe like Mass Effect.
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Post by goishen on May 7, 2017 14:44:36 GMT
Yah, I mean, it's either or. Take SR3, one of my favorite games. You could build up your bases and make them towering monstrosities completely decked out in purple. Or you could leave them as they were.
You've gotta make a decision. Either you fatigue us and we keep playing because it's fun, or you don't and keep it on as an on rails third person shooter.
I know what you're saying to yourself though, "Well, what about the Matriarch Dillinga quests?" Well, those were world building. Every little thing had it's place in ME. Even scanning the keepers had a little mystery at the end. This is why I've said it before and I'll keep on pounding this home. If you wanna make sausage, first of all you've gotta slaughter the pigs. I don't envy any of those writers for precisely this reason.
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Post by AGECCR on May 7, 2017 15:34:22 GMT
I really enjoyed my first experience with this game but I'm struggling to finish my second run-through. I love parts of the game: some of the characters are enjoyable to interact with, learning what I can about the Angara is fun and I have a few story missions that are a pleasure to play. However, there's so much stuff that is in this game that I just don't want to engage with again (or engage with period). Part of it is the burnout and open-world has always been unfavorable to me. I also examined the game's writing and gameplay critically, so much untapped potential and way too much "playing it safe" makes me dwell on what could've been.
I do still like the game and will go back and play the DLC when they release it. I'll have to see how everything plays out. I suspect I'll replay Andromeda two or three more times before the sequel comes out (I even played Inquisition about four times despite it being one of the weakest Bioware titles for me).
I should note that I replayed the games of the MET over and over again (at least 50x for 1, 30x for 2, and 5x for 3 [the ending smothered my drive to go back to re-experience it]) and didn't change how I played them. Every choice I made in the Trilogy remained the same. I just wanted to experience the world and the story again and again because I fell in love with it.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 7, 2017 16:51:14 GMT
Yah, I mean, it's either or. Take SR3, one of my favorite games. You could build up your bases and make them towering monstrosities completely decked out in purple. Or you could leave them as they were. You've gotta make a decision. Either you fatigue us and we keep playing because it's fun, or you don't and keep it on as an on rails third person shooter. I know what you're saying to yourself though, "Well, what about the Matriarch Dillinga quests?" Well, those were world building. Every little thing had it's place in ME. Even scanning the keepers had a little mystery at the end. This is why I've said it before and I'll keep on pounding this home. If you wanna make sausage, first of all you've gotta slaughter the pigs. I don't envy any of those writers for precisely this reason. Man, those Matriarch writings were shit collectibles, I'd say worse than the shards, just like those stupid medals and turian insignias. The one and only thing that makes the writings worth anything at all now is that brief moment with Conrad Verner in ME3. It's the only reason I was glad to have done them at all, and I initially did it because of the XP gain as I was trying to get as close to 60 as possible. I don't even remember reading those stupid things honestly. I never finished the insignias and medals though; they were just too much with zero reward in the end. As for the keepers, those guys friggin suck. It's kind of funny how the game specifically gives you that level up sound when you scan them all, because it knows it made you put up with a lot of crap to find them.
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Post by wright1978 on May 7, 2017 17:01:12 GMT
I'm still enjoying my 2nd playthrough. Enjoying the story & the characters, getting to discover bits and piece i missed the first time. The only issue i have is a touch of open world fatigue that i find even when playing the likes TW3. Trying to mix up going to worlds more this time rather than mowing one world story content completely and then jumping off.
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