Chill Zone (The Tavetaan)

I really tried to like Vetra but I agree she became my least favourite squad mate. It even becomes painful talking to her on the Tempest.

This retirement will always be over teh next Horizon. She doesn't want to give it up, and it's not funny that she doesn't realize that.

Oh ya! Am I the only one that found it unethical

Yeah, I hope it's by consent that mother chose to be frozen for a possible cure. I don't want the Ryder twins to be orphans.

I From a "more life vs less life" viewpoint, it's hard to disagree. From a consent angle, I feel my point stands. 

I think part of it was due to the side quests that are committed to helping the Initiative.

Only villains do non consensual things? 

We didn't get any memories about Ellen discussing what she was good and not good with. we DID get the "Memories" that had Ellen telling Alec to accept her death, because she had. *sigh*

I do not consent to someone freezing my body post death just in case they come up with some way to keep me living forever. I DO consent to the harvesting of any salvageable organs, and have let them put that on my Driver's licence. 

It seemed your argument was that Alec is not a villain, therefore all thing he does are good. Alex has a very strong version of what's right, but was so focused on that he became, in my eyes, selfish. So ya, he puts the entire mission at risk by killing himself instead of allowing Ryder to die (or, I dunno, share masks for a while) and of course, because dying is evil and he doesn't want to lose Ellen, it's totally okay to put her on ice so he can keep having that hope.

If it was incurable in Ellen's lifetime, it's likely to be incurable during Ryder's. If this game were based on reality, Ellen Ryder would be cured to come out and have time with her great great grandchildren, her twin children dead a few decades before. Yes, they're biologically related, but everyone you knew it dead. And you already said goodbye. I imagine that life very tragically. Biding yoru time until you finally can die, all of it very surreal and lonely.

we got mixed a bit.

I think it was a terrible idea on Alec's part that should end in tears and therapy. But, likely, won't, if they bother to continue that plot point in MEA2

Agreed

One would like to think they would be capable of it. Reminds me of this epic anime, Planetes. Towards the very end, one of the main characters is trying to bring an injured (bad guy, person she doesn't like/rebel) back to be arrested. They're both in space suits. She uses up all her oxygen from teh exercise. Her "prisoner" suggests that she should just take her oxygen. Like, duh. Let the injured "bad guy" die. No one would judge "Good guy" for damning "bad guy" to death. 

"Good guy" goes into an epic speech abotu hell no, she's not doing that. But when she's strangling on C02 poisoning (or whatever) she struggles. When everything in your body is screaming to rip that other person's oxygen tank off of them so you can take a breath, can you really control your instinct to live? Her character being the way she was, she manages to force herself not to take the oxygen. They end up being found soon after, but she's paralyzed for the rest of her life from the brain damage. 

I tried to find the scene, but all I found was this 2:49 video that has the scene in it interrupted with other scenes to make it more poignant.

but starting at 1:02

You can see it, and the animation and expression is pretty epic.