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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 15:31:20 GMT
The staggered release is another way EA are trying to make money. They're trying to give value to EA Access, I wonder if they'll notice it backfired... EA has a history of taking the wrong lessons, so I'm going to strongly suspect not.
It's my hope that EA will see Anthem is a dud and go back to letting Bioware make actual Bioware games:Ā single-player, narrative-driven RPGs.Ā But I won't hold my breath there either. And FFS, let Bioware use the Unreal Engine!Ā How much time have they wasted trying to adopt Frostbite for third-person RPGs at this point, do you think?
I have been preaching that for months
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 14:07:52 GMT
lol you mean like pointing strawmen that are not strawmen and ignoring when people point out you are using incorrect terminology like a magic fairy dust to sprinkle on something you would rather not deal with? Please. I will not be dragged into another pointless exchange with you Dude, you're way ahead. Cut it off before this goes three more pages. He's desperately doing this to every critical post on this forum at the moment. Just ignore. is there an ignore feature on the forum? Also, I already notified SJ about his activity on the Skepticism thread
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 14:03:07 GMT
oh I am of the same mindset, I just rather avoid you altogether Then why keep making non-arguments? Non-arguments; Sometimes people assert their beliefs without giving reasons; all they do is tell you what they believe. But stating beliefs is not giving arguments! Things that may look like arguments but are not, and are thus misconstrued as arguments, are explanations, reports, instructions, and so on. lol you mean like pointing strawmen that are not strawmen and ignoring when people point out you are using incorrect terminology like a magic fairy dust to sprinkle on something you would rather not deal with? Please. I will not be dragged into another pointless exchange with you
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:55:47 GMT
nope, I made it clear in find arguing with you an exercise in futility and aggravation. Exercise in futility and aggravations sounds like non-arguments to me. Why I point them out to save everyone and I the trouble. oh I am of the same mindset, I just rather avoid you altogether
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:46:02 GMT
Naw they want crowdsourced opinions on what games they should consider of "quality". so they want other people to tell them what quality is They want people to make their own fun in a shared world shooter And they wanted a machine to procedurally generate worlds in Andromeda Uhm Sounds like a bit of laziness to me
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:43:40 GMT
Moist Meter | Anthem Critikal does not like, even Andromeda got more moisture.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:40:36 GMT
TF...at this point you are trying to climb mirrors (as we say in my country) Please...quit. it's embarrassing and vexing at the same time That's not an argument either. nope, I made it clear in find arguing with you an exercise in futility and aggravation.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:38:22 GMT
But this is comparing the Warframe from 2013 (i.e. what Digital Extremes made in one year) to Anthem (i.e. what BioWare made in nearly seven years). The only recently released and reviewed version of Warframe is on Switch... Oh my. First, that's both a strawman and an obfuscation tactic, not what was being discussed. Second, you're jumping to conclusions on the development process of both games. Therefore this argument is fallacious too. TF...at this point you are trying to climb mirrors (as we say in my country) Please...quit. it's embarrassing and vexing at the same time Btw that was not a strawman
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:34:42 GMT
We are celebrating a 7.6 now, lol. Worse. We are celebrating review positive review which had to be translated from italian, as no one (yet) could find any positive in english. uhm Btw the staff at every eye are usually pollyannas Just saying I have had my gripes with them in the past tho they are a nice bunch
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:30:24 GMT
Well Bioware is screwed since a lot of people with a grudge for its "agendas" have made it their life's mission to shit on Bioware and EA. I'm sure the game has many flaws as per usual in today's gaming industry but the level of salt directed at Bioware in particular has been remarkably exaggerated. I agree I'm really not sure what people want from BioWare anymore. mass effect 4...featuring Shepard and the crew That too much to ask?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 13:27:57 GMT
Pretty depressing seeing this game tank. Now I really am worried about the next DA getting made. depressing? Why? imagine you had a favorite Italian restaurant. Imagine then for a moment that the management decided that for shits and giggles (and the opportunity to please investors) to take ALL the best chefs and put them up to make Chinese food (way out of their wheelhouse) to grab a slice of the Chinese food market in the area competing with 2 other restaurants nearby because apparently They are making shit tons of money seeking boring, repetitive lo mein or some shit. In the meantime their noobie chef cook the Italian food (in a very disappointing fashion as before these guys were just doing garnish or some shit). Also...they lie to the regulars by telling them the Chinese food will actually taste like Italian food too (some people mind you told them that that was bullshit but hey, some of the diehards dismissed that claim) So now ...if the restaurant succeeds with the Chinese food and gets tons of cash the Italian food will likely be put aside in favor of more and more Chinese food. The only way management will pull back is if the Chinese endeavor is an utter failure that cannot be spun to the investors. You want Bioware to focus on ME and DA without EA telling them to make them shared world bullshit destiny clones? Anthem needs to fail. Failure is part of learning and progressing. It is a feedback that you did something wrong and need to course correct.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 3:29:12 GMT
Pretty depressing seeing this game tank. Now I really am worried about the next DA getting made. depressing? Why?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 3:28:02 GMT
lol...so...the mind numbing grind is when the game opens up? Yeah, no, fuck that shit That's just your assertion.Ā as what I quoted was yours I fail to see how that statement is relevant
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 3:19:37 GMT
If I had high enough hopes it would be a possible purchase I would. But as is I donāt want to put 10 hours into a 15 hour game. Even at the mediocre levels it seems to be Iād want to finish the story. So Iāll wait until the entire game is free for me. If you ask me, the game doesn't really begin and open up until after you beat the main quest. lol...so...the mind numbing grind is when the game opens up? Yeah, no, fuck that shit
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 2:40:16 GMT
Anthem is out and it is a disaster. There are weaknesses, and they are many. Because Arekkz acknowlegdes them now, he is not a shill? Give me a break. I am not sure how well you know his channel to call him "unbiased". Watch his older videos of Anthem. Stuff from weeks ago, months ago. The guy pretty much used to work as a youtube propagandist for Anthem/Bioware/EA. Sadly for all of them, Anthem turned out to be below everyone's expectations. People have no choice other than acknowledging that now. Disaster according to who? Reviewers? I didnāt realize a 6-7 average was a disaster. Just because the guy has videos promoting BioWare and their games doesnāt mean they canāt write a review highlighting both their strengths and weaknesses. it is when the metascore is below expectations and you get no bonus....
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 2:12:02 GMT
Bringing up Yongyea is funny because he was legitimately hopeful for Anthem, and even during the disastrous open beta period he was holding the game in high regard. It surprised the shit out of me how positive he was on the game once he was actually playing it. He has given Anthem an absolutely fair shake thus far. yes, he even defended it at first
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 1:31:14 GMT
I did some more looking around and one source, James Ohlen, Anthem's narative director says Bioware wanted to make this game and EA said sure.
But the Metracritic scores being even markedly lower than Mass Effect Andromeda so far has got to be a blow to the devs. I had to lie for my company many times....you think he would be allowed to say "they made us do it"?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 1:30:02 GMT
hm... I'm not a fanboy of this game but in all fairness, reviews ought to be based on after the official launched games.
EA with their Premier Access, Early Access and crap access contributed to the loew score, imo.
the game has officially launched. It has gone gold and people are playing it. the "day one patch" at this point is an act of desperation....and it is out already apparently not doing much
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 1:27:54 GMT
quite a few things hint at imo proof but theory fits evidence I definitely think it looks like they changed direction at some point. The why I havenāt seen evidence for one way or the other. It could have been EA but it could have been internal. ok Pardon the lack of organization but I just binged a double stuffed calzone and 2 liters of diet cream soda... I'm a bit fuzzy First off. EA wanted a looter shooter to get a slice of the destiny pie,vwe all know this. Now, as I said before, even if they they commissioned it to a great studio and landed an amazing game there is always a LARGE chance of the game suffering from the World of warcraft effect (E.G. League of legends is a great game but...my friends play wow so imma keep playing wow...this works with social games of the same genere as long as they are comparable and there is no breakthrough innovation or some such thing) thus keeping the player base way lower than desired especially for a live service game. How do you combat that? By having an established, loyal fanbase. How do you get that? You make Bioware develop the game. Rather than starting from scratch you take the project that are working on and all its assets and have them adapt it to the destiny model. Notice how a LOT of people noticed how BW repeated a lot of destiny mistakes as if they had been designing Anthem using destiny as a model. As if someone just pointed and said... MAKE ME THAT Now...marketing the game as a looter shooter destiny clone would have pissed off the core fanbase that EA needed as established above. So what do you do? You lie (like for instance saying that it will feel like a proper bioware game...and that you have found a way to marry shared world shooters with Bioware storytelling) and then you slowly start telling the truth little by little warming the water gradually (sorry, no romances...oops, no companions....awww no choice and consequences either folks) so the frog does not jump down until it is boiled alive See where I'm going?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 1:01:46 GMT
ea has pushed projects on devs before. Anthem might gave become a looter shooter because EA demanded it Maybe or maybe not, I'm not one to make that generalization though, especially when Bioware seemed pretty open on wanting to do something new themselves and anthem fits that. I'm not denying EA could be involved but I also don't see why this couldn't be biowares own doing eitherš¤·š¤· I think people are honestly giving their hopes up if they thought Bioware wanted to do a new IP like mass effect or dragon age, sorry but people like to try something new at some point, maybe that something new doesn't work out or it doesn't interest you but i don't see the point in doing a new IP like what they've done before when they could've just stuck to them in the first place. Anthems not even the first time, I can remember when mass effect was announced and people didn't approve, the difference I see is mass effect actually had people enjoying it to justify it's continuation where as anthem isn't going to last 10 years let alone 5 if this is how it's reception is going to be. quite a few things hint at it no proof but theory fits evidence
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 0:50:46 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for creative people at BioWare. They just didn't have a chance to prove their talents with Anthem.
How so? Cause it's Bioware that wanted to do it to begin with. ea has pushed projects on devs before. Anthem might gave become a looter shooter because EA demanded it
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 0:37:11 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for creative people at BioWare. They just didn't have a chance to prove their talents with Anthem.
if EA loses enough money maybe they will stop asking for stupid monetizeable games from a studio whose wheelhouse is very VERY far from that and just let them do their thing
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 23:55:42 GMT
Ign 6.5....
Like.....OUCH
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 23:49:32 GMT
As crazy as it sounds, Anthem has actually made me appreciate ME:A more. At least ME:A has some diversity in its environments and is an actual singleplayer campaign. I might start a new playthrough tomorrow.... I feel like Romancing a certain blonde former asari commando lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 23:39:24 GMT
Wow....ign 6.5
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