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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 20:17:10 GMT
I've made a new thread since this one was really for pre-release skepticism, and now that the game is released on all platforms we can start fresh with what's actually in front of us. If you prefer a thread where we can vent about stupid shit in the game, come on and party. bsn.boards.net/thread/17209/anthem-gripes-complaintscan we add Casey Hudson as part of the stupid shit in the game?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 20:03:34 GMT
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 17:13:16 GMT
So let's see
Reviews are coming in and they are not great.
Influencers are not happy with the product
Uhm....failure imminent?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 17:01:52 GMT
or your thumb if you play interceptor Macro ftw lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:55:53 GMT
AWW common admit it we all know that the loading screens are just short intermissions se we can rest our trigger fingers or your thumb if you play interceptor
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:42:28 GMT
True, I recall them spoiling major plot points in their pre-release trailers, which I consider the result of poor marketing decisions. But it's kinda new to me that they do it with a careless comment, and that gave me the feeling that the story just wasn't important to them. My guess is that they don't think of this stuff as being secret in the first place. It's not like like you go into, say, a Spider-Man film and think that Spidey's maybe not going to defeat the Green Goblin, or whoever. unless it is ME3 and Casey Hudson is feeling the ART
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:26:53 GMT
Well, I guess we can drop the line about EA buying off all of the major reviewers. A well-written review. I guess we can
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:13:14 GMT
SofaJockey , with this thread reaching an unwieldy page count and the game actually released, should we be looking at maybe a general "Anthem Gripes and Complaints" now? I appreciate the designation as a bit of an unsafe space for people who only want positivity. If they want an "Anthem is Wonderful and Perfect" thread I don't think many of us here would begrudge that or attempt to rain on their parade. we can just rename this one no?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 16:05:12 GMT
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:40:36 GMT
It's not like we don't know we're going to, say, defeat the archdemon in DA:O. Says so right on the box. I would have loved it if WE, the player, actually defeated The Monitor. Alas, or like when we were not allowed a proper victory with a decent reunion in ME3 lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:28:42 GMT
untrue, they said multiple times that had found a way to marry narrative driven games and looter shooters AND Casey did promise the game would feel like a traditional bioware game Of course Those were lies I must have completely missed those claims. From all I heard before the VIP demo they were saying not to expect Bioware story, romance, companions, etc. And they never showed any story bits before the demo. So to me that pretty much meant it will be short and shallow. Up to a certain point I was hoping they will introduce Bioware story to looter shooters like they did to the MMO formula with SWTOR. But with TOR they were hyping the story from day 1. When the Anthem story was not even talked about as a major point and not even shown, I stopped hoping and knew what was coming. www.google.com/amp/s/www.vg247.com/2018/08/30/anthem-will-retain-the-heart-and-soul-of-a-bioware-experience/amp/ there is a couple here
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 15:08:30 GMT
untrue, they said multiple times that had found a way to marry narrative driven games and looter shooters AND Casey did promise the game would feel like a traditional bioware game Of course Those were lies I must have completely missed those claims. From all I heard before the VIP demo they were saying not to expect Bioware story, romance, companions, etc. And they never showed any story bits before the demo. So to me that pretty much meant it will be short and shallow. Up to a certain point I was hoping they will introduce Bioware story to looter shooters like they did to the MMO formula with SWTOR. But with TOR they were hyping the story from day 1. When the Anthem story was not even talked about as a major point and not even shown, I stopped hoping and knew what was coming. they were made soon after the reveal....the Casey Hudson quote is just a google away it's the easiest to find. They started telling the truth in bits and pieces , you know, turnibgntje temperature of the water up slowly so the frog would not jump out. Bioware was just a mean to an end for EA
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 14:35:23 GMT
Now that I think of it...it makes sense now how one of the devs said "why would you want to replay anthem's campaign?" ...because the campaign is a fucking chore not something that is a selling point of the game Bioware knew that. They never tried to promote the campaign. Like at all. Every question about it was avoided with "we got shiny Javelins that fly". And I wondered why they picked the Matthias missions to show for the demo. Now I know why. They are just about the only ones with coherent story, cutscenes and a sense of something really changing for a NPC. untrue, they said multiple times that had found a way to marry narrative driven games and looter shooters AND Casey did promise the game would feel like a traditional bioware game Of course Those were lies
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 13:28:02 GMT
The combat is like MEA with less fun abilities and more "grind" to kill the enemies
I'm sorry but the way I fight as a vanguard is much MUCH more enjoyable than Anthem
Also, you know. In MEA I can replay the campaign any time I want and I am not forced into stupid grind missions.
Now that I think of it...it makes sense now how one of the devs said "why would you want to replay anthem's campaign?" ...because the campaign is a fucking chore not something that is a selling point of the game
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 12:22:24 GMT
I mean...poor guy seems heartbroken I would've picked up smoking again in that situation. So curious for a good in depth story about Anthem's development. Let's hope Jason Schreier writes it for Kotaku or his new book. My impression is that BioWare had to make something online focused after ME3, in order to still be able to create their heart projects on the side. First they came up with Shadow Realms, which is more D&D and BioWare'ish. Then Destiny released and EA told them to stop Shadow Realms and make a loot shooter. I said my peace about that a few posts ago
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 5:23:38 GMT
I mean...poor guy seems heartbroken Even when Angry Joe's reviews generally align with my own opinions I can't stand his dumb ass. He's just a low intelligence, low research buffoon. It took 2 minutes for me to realize the chests in Freeplay were just a chance to appear and another couple minutes of searching reddit to see other people confirming that. "THE CHEST IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE UGH". I mean, come on dude, use your noggin. Any time he lands on the correct side it's by accident. his lack of research does not really make the design decision any better tho I do know he loves Bioware games and for him to be this put off by one is quite something
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 21, 2019 3:55:33 GMT
angryjoe has put up his rant I mean...poor guy seems heartbroken
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 21:52:51 GMT
Sorry to not join in here but I don't think the old "Evil EA forced them" lament is holding much water in this case. As I remember it, Casey and a lot of people on the old ME3 team moved on to project Dylan pretty quickly after ME3 was out (IIRC it was in 2013). Of course, all we had back then were rumors but those did mention that after about 10 years on Mass Effect they wanted to do something very different (and who can blame them). As an MP and coop focused open world looter shooter with flying mechanics, Anthem certainly fits that bill and I have never heard even a whisper that the project got refocused since then. Also, don't forget that in the heydays of ME3 MP, a lot of people on the BW forums and elsewhere were screaming for coop gameplay in BW campaigns and whatnot ("why can't we play the story as coop with those squad mates?!?!?!"). In concept, a title like Anthem must have made perfect sense in 2013. So I really doubt anyone forced anyone's hand there. And hey, to be honest, I get it. After 10 years (more if you count KotOR, which they were working on before), I understand that you may want to try your hand at something new. In the end, I am just hoping all those ventures into new things (and their overall rather medicore success with it), they might now be ready to a little bit back to the roots maybe? Who knows. doubtful EA wanted a piece of the destiny pie. The problem with that is the WOW effect. Why play anthem if your friends are all playing Destiny 2 or the division 2? Even if anthem was better the player base would have been low which is the death of "live bullshit" ahem..."live service games". Now, how do you fight that? With an established, devoted fanbase. E.G. you make Bioware produce the game, you lie during the lead up marketing by saying it will feel like a proper Bioware game and you trick the proverbial frog by slowly telling the truth in bits and pieces right before launch "hey guys...no romances, no companions/squadmates no choices, no consequences, no replayable campaign". Notice also how Anthem repeats the same mistakes as destiny almost as if someone went to biowate mid cycle, tossed a copy of destiny on the table and said "you see that? Make me THAT" which EA has done before btw
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 20:58:39 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if Anthem started out as more of a single-player adventure with prominent multi-player elements (more of a destiny clone) and then was forced to become something else. some signs point to this being the truth
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 20:46:38 GMT
Does anyone know how Bioware Edmonton ended up working on this title? The game doesn't interest me at all, but I'm curious as to why they put this out in the first place. It's so different from anything else they've done in the past two decades. I can only think of three ways they ended up with this project. EA had a looter shooter they wanted developed and specifically handed it off to Bioware. EA wanted to make a looter shooter and asked if any studios wanted to make it and Bioware took the chance to do something different. EA solicited ideas for a new game and Bioware had this idea which EA green lit. bioware was a mean to fight the WOW effect my friend
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 20:31:46 GMT
to be fair, his work was not the priority and a LOT of reviewers do say the hidden lore is where you can recognize Bioware's hand. What does that tell you Nothing, really. Considering how BioWare tends to do scripting and writing, it likely means some of Drew K's ideas are there along with the work of the other writers. That is assuming the ideas you liked come from Drew K specifically as well. no I mean the genere of game that is Anthem shaped what they did with villains and missions. As it was predicted I might add.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 20:26:08 GMT
Watching Skill Up's review now (jesus christ, 46 minutes? dude.) and when he criticizes the writing for The Monitor I had to pause because SkillUp mentioned former BioWare villains done well including Sovereign, and I just.... heavy sigh. I've watched that scene maybe 50 times over the years, either from playing and replaying ME1 myself a dozen times or just loading that scene up on Youtube. It's so goddamn amazing. It's so good. So good. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I... am Sovereign.That was released 12 years ago. I still get chills watching that scene. Where the FUCK is that BioWare? you exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 20, 2019 20:23:20 GMT
Watching Skill Up's review now (jesus christ, 46 minutes? dude.) and when he criticizes the writing for The Monitor I had to pause because SkillUp mentioned former BioWare villains done well including Sovereign, and I just.... heavy sigh. I've watched that scene maybe 50 times over the years, either from playing and replaying ME1 myself a dozen times or just loading that scene up on Youtube. It's so goddamn amazing. It's so good. So good. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I... am Sovereign.That was released 12 years ago. I still get chills watching that scene. Where the FUCK is that BioWare? Ask Drew K, he wrote for Anthem as well. But Drew K was always overrated if you ask me. to be fair, his work was not the priority and a LOT of reviewers do say the hidden lore is where you can recognize Bioware's hand. What does that tell you
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 19, 2019 15:32:00 GMT
Easy is definitely the Solo difficulty. If you go higher while soloing you just punish yourself (unless you are well geared). After you get some green items (no need for blue ones at all) you can stomp just about anything on Easy. uhm...yeah but that is not how it should work
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 18, 2019 19:15:21 GMT
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