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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 12, 2017 23:11:45 GMT
Well, it's been a while since anything happened here.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 12, 2017 13:38:04 GMT
They're basically werewolves though. ...Is that racist to Wookiees? Try asking Chewie, if he rips your arms of and beats you to death with them, I'm afraid so That's why I'm trying to find out before i ask him. I like my arms, i need them for...things.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 12, 2017 13:23:09 GMT
happy werewolf Bioware, he wants a boyfriend to be happy Is that werewolf? I thought that's a wookiee! They're basically werewolves though. ...Is that racist to Wookiees?
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 23:36:58 GMT
Homophobic and you make light of rape. Thanks for making that clear, you just lost everyone's respect. Good day. You lost mine several posts ago. It's all good. At least i'm a decent person.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 23:34:03 GMT
Yeah, i dont see anything wrong with a Jaal/MRyder/Liam threesome. In fact, we'll take it! Thanks for the suggestion mannyray , you're very good at gay scenarios aren't you? Got any more gay content ideas? We still need more. You've made up your mind that I'm anti-LGBT because I don't think the game should have to revolve around sexuality morality plays. In answer to your question, how about The archon rapes Scott Ryder at the end of the game, and they realize that the sheer amount of ecstacy they shared compels them to stop fighting and peace is achieved? If that's not "Gay is awesome" I don't know what is Homophobic and you make light of rape. Thanks for making that clear, you just lost everyone's respect. Good day.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 22:01:50 GMT
Well, from his post it seems like he has a problem with openly gay characters. But yes, I'm sure it's a misunderstanding and he's about to come and clear up the issue... I assume that he has a good intention and that it is just a misunderstand for now. He is not on my list of trolls, homophobes, and fake allies on BSN, so I give him a benefit of doubt. But you know me, I am actually serious about Jaal/MRyder/Liam threesome. It was what I wanted before romance options were revealed. I think I posted about this on the romance thread 1000 pages ago lol. I had way too high expectation on ME:A romance. Yeah, i dont see anything wrong with a Jaal/MRyder/Liam threesome. In fact, we'll take it! Thanks for the suggestion mannyray, you're very good at gay scenarios aren't you? Got any more gay content ideas? We still need more.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 21:39:35 GMT
Maybe if they had Jaal caught by Ryder making out with Liam in the restroom while both were wearing rainbow tee shirts that would level the scales? I think the whole point of being fair to alternative sexualities is that being gay or lesbian or straight shouldn't matter when we all come together for a common purpose. Settling in Andromeda should be a great milieu for that type of lesson, but some I do see it's simply not good enough. I think you might misunderstand my post. There are openly straight characters in Mass Effect games, so I simply ask for openly gay characters. There are plot-importance straight characters in ME games, and so I ask for the same for gay characters. Though I must admit having Jaal catch Ryder making out with Liam would be awesome. My sexy time with Liam would now turn into threesome! And nope, no rainbow tee shirts. No one is wearing anything during this cultural exchange! Well, from his post it seems like he has a problem with openly gay characters. But yes, I'm sure it's a misunderstanding and he's about to come and clear up the issue...
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 21:20:54 GMT
I would love that these gay characters should be openly gay as well. What I don't want to see is when a character is queer-coded and then revealed by devs in an interviewed that he is gay, but it is not clear from the game that he is gay. I generally don't count that as a valid or good representation. Oh and I want a major gay major character too. I am talking about Liara level of plot importance! Ok I guess I need to wake up. Maybe if they had Jaal caught by Ryder making out with Liam in the restroom while both were wearing rainbow tee shirts that would level the scales? I think the whole point of being fair to alternative sexualities is that being gay or lesbian or straight shouldn't matter when we all come together for a common purpose. Settling in Andromeda should be a great milieu for that type of lesson, but some I do see it's simply not good enough. So you're saying you don't want a major gay character? Or an openly gay character? I wonder why...
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 19:03:16 GMT
Estimates
Either way, in the USA alone youre looking at like 10 million people at least, but you said 1-2% of customers, not 1-2% of the population. I suspect LGBT people might be a more significant portion of their customer base, dragon age especially tbh
... there really arent differences between the resources used for LGBT characters and straight ones, just saying. Theyd employ the same voice actor, theyd be character designers and writers and everything else, because you know those squadmates/npcs would still need to exist dude regardless of their sexual orientation. Having LGBT characters doesnt really use any more resources than a straight character
But again, either way the animations would still be just as bad because they use an auto animate system for their voices/animations, taking resources from other departments working on the game wouldnt magically make that system better tbh
True, just estimates, but even if it were 10% (which are not, but whatever) it wouldnt be enough to justify the effort ^^. Well, when one out of 100 people is gay, chances are very high one out of 100 customers is gay (LGBT whatever). True, romance is romance, no matter what side. Yet, when I look at the previous patches, BW had to patch more "LGBT romances" (and add new) then hetero ones. And that is the problem, romances are a "vital" part of BW games, fine, they want to make some of them same-sex, fine. But thats it, when they are done, they are done, there are still hundreds of "real" bugs bugging the game and they fix LGBT romances... seriously? Btw if they put the same work/efforc/ressources into hetero romances as they did with LGBT it would be just as bad, though LGBT is worse because it such a small minority... and while protecting minorities is important, this is not the way how to do it. Last but not least... when it comes to ressources, you can boil it down to money only. Fire 1-2 content people and hire 1-2 software developers to fix real bugs. Hetero romances in MEA have more work, effort and resources put into them by a long way, a ridiculously long way, and two of the m/m romances that are of very low quality compared to hetero ones have not been improved at all. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about here, because you're acting like LGBT people have it better in MEA. Not even close.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 5, 2017 10:49:59 GMT
Hot? I don't know what you're talking about, Hooman. Is...is that hanar...jet-skiing...with its tentacles!? O.o Unfortunately they can't train us to do that.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 4, 2017 1:22:45 GMT
I thought so too till we got to the jizz discussion. I guess some people can just never leave middle school behind. I'm still trying to figure out how that was even allowed The answer is above your post.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 3, 2017 20:56:29 GMT
Anyway, I know not a lot post in this thread anymore but I just wanted to say that I won't be posting for a while. This past week my grandfather has been in and out of the hospital and now has blood clots throughout his body, including one that broke off into his brain. The medication he was on is not dissolving them because the Dr. suspects he might have lung cancer from all his years of smoking, and that it stopped it from working. Basically they said he is dying and he is now on hospice care. I'm not saying all this for pity. I just wanted to let everyone know that you've all been pretty great and I didn't want anyone to think I was being an ass if I didn't respond to anything. I just don't think I have the stamina to post. I wish everyone the best, much love. You take all the time you need. You've been pretty awesome and I only want the best for you. I wish you and your family the best, lots of love.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 3, 2017 18:17:15 GMT
Good morning, Dirk , having read the last few pages (three times), I think the thread just about managed to have a challenging discussion without falling over the edge, despite a fair bit of bait throwing around. I thought so too till we got to the jizz discussion. I guess some people can just never leave middle school behind. Eh, it was better than arguing.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 3, 2017 14:03:39 GMT
-(_MEA_)-
Two reasons. (a) SIMS is a simulation game. It's a perfect medium (imo) to explore human interactions, work places, careers, mores, romances... etc. ( I buy a game to play a game not to play at romancing a digital pixel or someone else's idea of a romantic relationship with a game character. Now, Bio has said they create stories and deep characters that you can "...fall in love with...". Really? That is just marketing BS. But, hey, that is my pov. But Sims don't talk...and aren't written characters at all. How is that better at promoting social issues than talking, written characters?
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 2, 2017 14:35:29 GMT
Oops, wrong video! Never mind. Sure.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 2, 2017 14:23:41 GMT
"Gay is anti black" You approve of this?
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 1, 2017 23:29:55 GMT
I take it you were one of the people who harassed people like ladycounslor? You remind me of how they acted No, they aren't one of the people who did that. I'm really surprised. All this guy did was express disappointment with a game and now he's being called a harasser.
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 1, 2017 23:23:59 GMT
The fuck is this mess???? No. Andromeda gets no points in this area. Lets have a little review, shall we? - Gay male romances are side characters with significantly less content, dialog, CC faces, etc.
- Vetra's writer had to fight for her to be bisexual.
- Excluding gay men from the main Squad was intentional.
- Jaal was only made bi after massive backlash.
- The two sidelined gay men don't acknowledge each others
existence if you cheat on them because promiscuous gay men don't care about that kind of thing. - I could go on.
Andromeda and most of it's team deserve absolutely NO praise concerning it's gay relationships. Along with the above points was the psycho torture gay ME fans went through pre-release. Many here in the forums can concur. The handling of this issue was just corrosive and now we have to deal with this shit: articles popping up raining undeserved praise when objectively Andromeda is little better(I vote worse) than ME3 in terms LGB romance and only because WE(gay peeps) forced the issue. This entire event demonstrates a deplorable attitude within the MEA team that in the year 2819 a Blue Space Babe and a Purple Squid Cobra Cat Man can eye fuck each other throughout space adventures but the gay still has to be stuffed into a nice little box on the side. I take it you were one of the people who harassed people like ladycounslor? You remind me of how they acted What? So someone who is disappointed with the appalling gay content in MEA is automatically a harraser? What does that even have to do with what he's talking about here?
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Post by Salty Drell on Aug 1, 2017 20:18:13 GMT
My spider-senses triggered, what's going on in here? I think KalleDemos' post is the perfect summary of the topic.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 31, 2017 19:43:40 GMT
So as a straight middle-aged male, I shouldn't think the childlike babbling as Ryder hits on Suvi early in the game is immature and not how grownups behave? Is this some sort of lesbian dating ritual in which both parties act like they are 12? I had no idea! /sarcasm Is the early Suvi romance dialogue your sworn enemy or something? We get it, you don't like it.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 30, 2017 22:29:37 GMT
They promised they would fix that, I don't know if they have. Does anyone know if they did? It was in one of the patches' notes, I believe, yes. I would've took a look in my most recent playthrough, but my mind was completely fixated on romancing Jaal with Scott lol.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 30, 2017 21:58:11 GMT
Nowhere near as hamfisted as "So what brings you to Andromeda" "I'm trans, let me deadname myself" Holy shit, I had totally forgotten about that. Yeah, that was way worse than Krem's scene. They promised they would fix that, I don't know if they have. Does anyone know if they did?
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 30, 2017 1:59:56 GMT
There is no excuse for some aspects in Gil and Reyes/MRyder romance, but I'd say having Jaal as another m/m option is refreshing since in ME:T we only had 2 humans (though Kaidan is still my favorite). I hope DA4 continues to have a more exotic LI for m/m romance. You know exactly what I mean. Hell yeah. It would take a miracle for that to happen though.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 24, 2017 23:11:01 GMT
Honestly, I didn't help the off topicness so I'll post some art also. linklinklinklol, it's ok you two. You can go as off topic as you want.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jul 24, 2017 22:59:20 GMT
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