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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 19:36:50 GMT
For those of you that ended it. Do you think there could be a reconciliation? Would you even want one? I didn't end it myself, but I wish there had been a chance for my Ryder to be a little more pissed of by it all. But I suppose that's what hc are for. I tried all the options, just to see what happened. (I even shot him once. Not doing that again, ever!)
One thing that annoyed me. Was that if you side with him, but end things, and later refuse to take his hand, he calls you a dick. I don't think a romanced Reyes would do that.
But I suppose, that's just the limitations of time and money. At least the email he sends you you afterwards, asking to be friend fits better.
I didn't end it, but would consider it if 1) Reyes is part of a DLC or MEA2 and 2) They can make up for what happened in the cave and get together eventually because Ryder can forgive Reyes for what he did I seriously would love such a path. For now, I'll let my Ryder stay with him. After playing the scene over and over trying to justify both outcomes, I spent a little time on my Ryder's background so it's easier for him to support Reyes in killing Sloane The first time I played, Ryder just came across such a goody-two-shoes that not helping Sloane seemed a little weird, but now I replay him and roleplay properly, it's getting a little easier. I kinda wish there was an option to at least try and stop Reyes verbally, have a litte chat/fight and then make up. Different topic... the dance scene with the patch. Oh dear. Didn't have that problem before. I didn't reload and try again, but I hope it's just a one-time glitch But the updated eyes are gorgeous! Reyes's eyes have such a beautiful colour. Nope I have it too. They broke my favorite version of the dance
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 18:29:04 GMT
Reyes dance scene if you pick the professional version is more bugged than it was before lul. Scott head looks like he's auditioning for the exorcist. I can't. XD
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 18:08:10 GMT
Yeah just did the Addison my face is tired conversation. It's lot better (still off tho).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 8:19:11 GMT
The salt if Jaal becomes bi though. I want it to happen if only for that.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 8:17:48 GMT
I'm kind of annoyed by how used I've gotten to Reyes' CC face now. Though there are still some things that bother me about it (like some of the weird wrinkling across his cheeks and the fact that he and my Scott have got exactly the same freckles). Don't be I got used to it too XD Reyes is my husbando CC face and all.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 6:50:01 GMT
When you finish the last mission and defeat the Archon, Gil comes up and kisses you and tells you "Lexi's finished the tests. Honey, you're we're pregnant" Director Tann berates you for getting knocked up on the job, and temporarily relieves you of command. Addison's face makes unholy contortions. The Angara are confused. Kesh just sighs and walks away from the drama. Drack and Vetra will support though. They are best friend material in my book! lol! Drack just wants to be a god father
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 6:46:31 GMT
I let Aksuul live only because my trigger finger was too slow. If I had killed the fool trying to save Jaal's life and from a man whose army of fanatatics were ordered to murder me on sight and Jaal had then proceeded to give me grief about it, I would have liked the option to tell him to get the fuck of my ship. How's that for emotion? Now if he'd specifically told me beforehand, "Do not kill Aksuul under any circumstances whatsoever; even if he tries to shoot me in the face", I could understand it. I let Aksuul live because Jaal was practically beating me over the head with his really unsubtle "hints" that I was not to do anything to Aksuul and let Jaal handle everything, otherwise I would've shot him. Man, I really wanted to shoot Aksuul. Yep he was such a prat. I really didn't want Jaal whining at me again (especially since with the base someone always whines at you either the Moshae or Jaal) so yeah I just let him get shot. Too bad it didn't take his eye out.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 5:45:31 GMT
Jaal is like the opposite of Garrus. I wouldn't go that far but they're not that similar.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 5:42:59 GMT
How mad can Jaal get. I know you can make that one decision at the exaltation facility, but other than that, this game has kind of passed from my mind. (Surprisingly, he's only candidate who's like, sure, send the nutty AI to SAM. Good on 'im!) If you kill Akksul during his loyalty mission, Jaal gets really upset at you apparently. Like locks you out of being able to romance him upset. Yep I couldn't talk to his "i'm so upset" self for 2 priority missions after that. What a baby. Comparing him to bro Garrus is an insult.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 5:32:24 GMT
Jaal wishes he was Garrus 2.0 more like. I feel like that was what they were aiming at, even if wasn't on purpose. Nah Jaal doesn't come across as bro enough for Garrus. That and it's too easy to upset him with the wrong decisions.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 5:24:03 GMT
What I don't get is if the this cut character was too much like Garrus, then how do they justify Jaal being there? I mean I know he has his own unique traits, but he's still the spiritual sequel to Garrus in everyway that really matters. Jaal wishes he was Garrus 2.0 more like.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:59:49 GMT
They have bits regarding salarian squadmate in code tho. I'm just too lazy to check how much of it. Model and textures are coded, but I'm not that far to find audios attached. True, but didn't Bioware say they cut that character because they were too similar to another character for their liking? I guess they could rework the character maybe, but it seems they cut them with the mindset of not adding them later. That's such a awful excuse considering how recycled 90% of BW's shit ends up being.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:45:33 GMT
D: how could you? Honestly I let her live because that's what Peebee wanted and yeah. (Why she couldn't throw you the thing biotically and still save her is beyond me). People can fail to do all kinds of technically simple things during crises. I don't care about my cyber-boyfriend's exes. They can live or die; I'm not jealous. That Jacob-Brynn thing, OTOH... lmao, bioware. Still was pretty stupid. I usually don't care. It's the sainitification and comparisons that annoy me. I love you Reyes so much. Bad boy and no drama lama.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:24:51 GMT
I would love for a f/f love interest to have to deal with her ex and it turns out that the ex-girlfriend wasn't a piece of shit at all, it's just awkward because of the breakup. Marjolaine and Kalinda are the examples I'm referring to here. I killed Kalinda. I mean if we are gonna have ex drama anyway, even if I'm not banging Peebee, I want to at least take part in the story. I may be a bad person....D: how could you? Honestly I let her live because that's what Peebee wanted and yeah. (Why she couldn't throw you the thing biotically and still save her is beyond me).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:17:09 GMT
isn't that pretty much Miranda and Jacob tho? Bear in mind, I haven't played the Mass Effect trilogy that far, so I'm like "Miranda who? Jacob who?". Oooh yeah Miranda and Jacob used to have a thing and it comes out after Jacob's LM and he's pretty much "yeah we broke up." (Well he says she deserves a better man than him which is awkward as fuck if you're romancing him with FemShep but also foreshadowing since FemShep deserved better than his trashy ass too).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:16:03 GMT
Eh like I said least you're not being compared to them. It could really be worse. *shrug* It's a personal thing, I guess, tbh I don't have an issue with some comparisons as long as they don't make a huge deal about it. Doesn't seem too creepy to me. Yeah comparing someone constantly to your dead wife (who you speak about as though they were perfect and never did anything wrong and how dare the universe separate you) is creepy as fuck to me. The m/m version of the Carth Syndrome has never had that.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:14:48 GMT
Killing Reyes girlfriend sort of felt like justice for all the times we've had to endure dead exes. It was very therapeutic. I kinda wonder if we'll ever get a storyline along the vein of here's this handsome character who's a potential love interest, and look, here's his ex-boyfriend. Who's also an ally. And there's a confrontation where you're like "uh, should I be worried?", and the ex is like, "nah bruh, that's ancient history, we just didn't click anymore, but we cool, and I'm glad he's really happy with you.". Cue heartwarming moment. Sorry, I'm trying to think of a way to subvert this ex-trope romance subplots seem to be fond of. isn't that pretty much Miranda and Jacob tho?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 4:09:21 GMT
It's exactly half. If we're not counting SWTOR, there have been a total of 10 m/m romances. Although I'm not sure Kaidan counts because Rahna didn't die. She just couldn't look at him again after he killed his instructor trying to defend her. Yeah, I don't seriously count Kaidan. So only 40% of our love interests are broken up over a dead lover. ...Whoo. Go team. Eh like I said least you're not being compared to them. It could really be worse.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:58:43 GMT
Going on that other end we get Jaheira, whose husband is dead for like a week and is happy to make out with you. So I guess Cortez had a mentor? Of sorts? It's amazing that they keep giving us romances at all, isn't it? God don't remind me of Jaheria. Her husband's corpse is barely cold and I'm hearing her god awful romance theme when I just wanted to be friends. Especially since she acts more like an aunt in BG1 so it's extra fucking creepy.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:51:53 GMT
Okay so I forgot Sky and don't really remember the Zev romance but that 11% just jumped to 40% if we're including Kaidan, Zev and Sky. And Anders with Karl, I guess? Okay, so I guess not quite half, unless Reyes has a dead girlfriend. We kill his girlfriend remember? (And I love him for it). He's not really CS because he doesn't dwell on it outside of paying some respects.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:45:59 GMT
Cortez wouldn't shut the fuck up about his dead husband though. Even Carth (by far the worst) at least spent some time on his trust issues and his desire for revenge. Cortez spends his whole damn character arc going, "Gosh, I just can't get over my dead husband. Gosh, I just can't get over my dead husband. Gosh, I just can't get over my dead husband." Then you romance him and it turns into "Okay, I'm over my dead husband, let's fuck." And I'm saying this as someone who actually likes Steve as a character, and would probably romance him all the time if it wasn't so creepy. I wish Carth had spent less of his time on his trust issues honestly. Turning DS is so good if only because I get to shove a lightsaber in his gut. Whiny bastard why the hell couldn't I bone Canderous he'd totally be dtf. Steve was mainly creepy because he really had nothing else in the meat of his dialogue. Like there was him being a pilot but they didn't expand on that as much as they should've to give some balance to the dead spouse thing. Carth Syndrome usually adds wanting to be redeemed for their bad past/revenge on the murderer of said spouse sprinkled in it so it's not just about the dead spouse. (Even if it is still about the dead spouse). And Carth was the worst because his whiny brat. Also I'd say the worst rendition of it is Thane with his perfect recollection of his wife and his bratty kid that you redeem (still less annoying than Carth's kid but yeah). Okay so I forgot Sky and don't really remember the Zev romance but that 11% just jumped to 40% if we're including Kaidan, Zev and Sky. Yep it's pretty much a go to for BW for a male LI period regardless of sexuality. It's one of their clutches and it's annoying.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:35:23 GMT
Sky from Jade Empire. Kaidan, arguably. I might be missing someone. Aarin Gend, Zevran... two of whom also have the privilege of having been the ones to kill their lovers... Kaidan doesn't quite fit. He was sweet on a girl that became afraid of him, but it wasn't a lost lovers sort of thing, and as he said... he's 32, you don't get that far without getting over some shit. Yeah see Cortez just had a dead spouse. He didn't do the worst part of Carth Syndrome in where they compare you to said dead spouse and go on and on about how you're so familiar. It's fucking creepy.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:34:10 GMT
Isn't it just Carth and Thane though? Who am I missing? Depends if we're going full blown Carth Syndrome or just dead lover/spouse. Cause full blown is just Carth and thane yeah but lite version is Carth, Thane, Sky (though he counts for guys too but he at least has the decency not to compare you if you're a dude), and Zevran and I know I probably forgot someone from NWN but whatever.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:21:20 GMT
I can't get why they even thought people wanting to play a scifi role playing game with super unrealistic themes abounding everywhere would want their one fully realized gay romance to be about having a baby with a woman? I mean how did no one notice how stupid that sounds? They had a blank check to write in whatever cool shit they wanted-even if they were married to the idea of having gay babies. Artificial womb, adoption, augmented male butt baby, god anything...(yeah I know butt baby is gross, but so is the "Jill romance" so just step over the salt). Sweet maker why the mental images I can't.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 3:20:40 GMT
In BW's defense they give this far more often to straight players. That wasn't a gay story that was just living emotional clutch story. While still shit it's shit for different reasons. I know, it's the gay edition, and it's also the easiest way to make the character known to be gay right away. The whole arc seems to be revolved around getting over his gay husband. It just seems like the accumulation of the gay characters are always about them being gay. If it's an isolated incident then of course there would be nothing wrong with Cortez, but the accumulative event of Cortez is getting over his dead husband, the accumulative event of Gil is meeting Jill and getting the baby, the accumulative event of Dorian is meeting his father about obligation of reproduction, gay conversion, and the like. This is why they need to steer away from writing gay characters and just write characters because it limits that characters' potential. I can see your point even if I disagree about Cortez. I'm far too used to the Carth syndrome to attach it to a sexuality rather than BW being completely unoriginal. mrjack (since my fucking quotes decided to be assholes): Depends on if we include SWTOR or not. If SWTOR isn't included it's a good portion yeah. But since SWTOR pretty much doubles the f/m LI numbers and all of them avoid it then no.
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