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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 2:58:35 GMT
I think the difference for me comes to what exactly they're trying to do with the story. In order to write a good LGBT character story, like say Dorian or Gil's baby thing, it's important to have someone who is able to translate those experiences into the story. In the case of a basic story where the character happens to be LGBT (like if they made Cullen gay, or even if you look at Reyes), having straight writers do it is perfectly fine. I really think it comes down to whether or not they're trying to bring it into the story. Personally, I hope they never have any gay characters, and just have characters. Everytime they have gay characters, it's all about gay gay gay, I want a fantasy story about characters in a fantasy setting, I don't want to deal with real life issues, I don't want to deal with gay discrimination, closeted gay, gay angst, gay conversion, dead gay husband, In BW's defense they give this far more often to straight players. That wasn't a gay story that was just living emotional clutch story. While still shit it's shit for different reasons.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 2:49:00 GMT
Wow. I just hit a bug where I can't use E anymore. And rip that save file.
Smh
Edit: lol seeing the conversation I interrupted I feel bad but that kind of made me rage a bit.
But yeah Jill...if nothing else that mistake probably won't repeat itself.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 2:15:57 GMT
If the arks had been armed the Kett would've destroyed them completely.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 1:17:59 GMT
I don't count that one time I spared Morinth to unlock dominate and then reload an actual playthrough XD
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 1:15:18 GMT
New squadmate is just not gonna happen. It's probably the only thing that would make me 100% happy, but just writing his character, casting and recording the voice lines, and making the scenes would take months. As much as i'd love Avitus it wouldn't make much sense for it to happen in this installment. I mean you'd pretty much have to start flirting with him right when he finds out Macen dies... and then shoehorn in an entire romance in the last quarter of the game. Efvra may be the most likely for alien options, but I'm doubtful they'd even spend that many resources. Still, I wish they'd just tell us what options are even on the table at this point. If it's just Gil/Reyes improvements, I don't see why they couldn't just come out and say that instead of vague "improvements to options". IMO the safe bet is they know it wouldn't go over well. Some people will be willing to live with it, but a lot would feel like it wasn't enough and the backlash would start all over again. If that is all they're planning, they're probably hoping everyone will settle down for two months, and then the inevitable backlash when the patch is released. won't hurt their bottom line so much. (Or maybe I'm being too cynical, but hey, can you blame me?) sounds more realistic than cynical honestly.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 0:55:17 GMT
Heh Jill man. Gil you have some crazy friends. Rip
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 0:16:35 GMT
They'll just fix Reyes' scene and dialogue and call it a day >_> It would be easier to make Jaal bi at this point but idk... I really do not like messing with after productions sexualities. I do not think they can fix this the right way, there is no win after this without losing PR or money. Yeah *sigh* the character friendly but expensive way would be companion Reyes or a new gay squaddie. The cheaper but character unfriendly way would be bi Jaal. The "we tried" way would be giving Reyes and Gil expanded content but keeping them in their current roles. (Is it wrong I want a gay Evfra something fierce tho? Not bi, gay.)
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 0:07:55 GMT
Eh I highly doubt we'll get a new companion (though I really want Reyes promoted to companion. I'd be so happy if that happened). It'll probably just be dlc The only way to make this right is offer the gay companion DLCs, which I doubt they will do. Still going to wait and see what the "improvement" to male romances is all about. They'll just fix Reyes' scene and dialogue and call it a day >_>
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 6, 2017 0:00:10 GMT
Eh I highly doubt we'll get a new companion (though I really want Reyes promoted to companion. I'd be so happy if that happened). It'll probably just be dlc
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:54:52 GMT
None of the Genocide you do is without a purpose based in self defense. None of it. Genocide is a worse crime because of it's intent. Just calling Shep's actions genocide without realizing the circumstances is the exact idiocy that bothers me about people trying to leap to it as some blanket instant condemnation. The only destruction of race actions you get are the Geth, Quarians and the Rachni and all of those can be justified in the defense of other races. Breaking into some scientists lab and shooting up everyone so you can get a handful of credits? Not so much. I don't live in a world where people have ever committed a genocide (or any lesser war crime) b/c they thought their victims posed no threat. Every atrocity on this planet can and has been justified out of self-defense and love for your group. Good speculative fiction's about the real world. (Also, bad speculative fiction) I would say that coldly killing what may be the last member of a sentient race believed to be intentionally exterminated is genocide, yeah. Not great! I don't hate the player; I hate game. (Well, this part of it. Game's a lot of fun) Do you want my opinion of like taking credits out of a seemingly abandoned wall safe in Omega? That, too, is bad. Shame on Shepard! Shame! Not as bad as genocide, though. We're not talking about imagined threats however. Last member of a sentient race that almost killed every other one until a bigger problem was told to deal with it that had to be dealt with too? Like are we really ignoring that the Rachni had to have the Krogan (who breed like rabbits and are notoriously hard to kill) sicced on them until practical extermination before they stopped? That's not a minor disagreement. That said if you're not one of those people going on about how psycho people are for their actions in a video game my rant wasn't directed at you. It's just a pet peeve of mine because people act like them and only them can tell the difference in right and wrong and reality not reality and it's aggravating as fuck. (Either that or they have weird reality boundaries and they should see a shrink about that) Eh the genocide at least saves lives. The credit stealing could result in a family unable to pay their protection fees and murdered because Shep needed that 400 credits for some baffling reason despite being bankrolled by Cerberus.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:48:12 GMT
Nah I'm arguing Shepard barging into places heavily armed and getting shot isn't some injustice or makes them in the right. Also as someone who's related to "criminals" having armed someone break into your place because they feel it's okay isn't acceptable. Omega's still an awful example, since as far as I can remember everywhere you go is a public place. The gangs don't have any more claim to the streets than anyone else, except that they're better at violence. Which, well, guess what. (Should mention I edited my last post, for clarity sake.) nah not everywhere. You hack into quite a few people's houses. That said Omega isn't the best example yeah.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:47:24 GMT
Ugh that reminds me of all that time arguing about the effect the collector base decision would have.
...and then we got that bullshit in ME3. What a disappointment. I stopped arguing about the effect decisions would have in the future after that. It's clear it won't amount to much.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:42:13 GMT
The Blue Suns and the Blood Pack are literal gangs. The territory you're "invading" has civilian housing in it. If you're really arguing that local gangs have a right to kill whoever wanders into the turf they claim, yeah, not gonna take that seriously. If you want to point out a good mission for how wrong Shepard and co are, best choice off the top of my head is Grunt's recruitment mission. Only reason you're there is to find Okeer, who isn't a captive or anyone else you'd have a good reason to break in and save. Nah I'm arguing Shepard barging into places heavily armed and getting shot isn't some injustice or makes them in the right. Also as someone who's related to "criminals" having someone armed break into your place because they feel it's okay isn't acceptable.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:38:36 GMT
So you have the high ground to come into their territory adn shoot them because they didn't put up a double sign? K then. Doesn't matter if it's a right or not they're invading their territory and yes they protect themselves. You have absolutely no need to go patrolling in any office whatsoever in ME1 outside of the Rachni building. Also you must be joking about the spurious claim. Your PC kills people and LAUGHS about this you realize? All of Citadel is Shepard and Co killing people and joking about it. This is why I find the "you're a sociopath because you do genocide in a game!" to be so fucking dumb. If you actually have a problem with killing massive amounts of people in a game you wouldn't play most of them. It smacks of hypocrisy while failing to realize your PC is kind of a shit bag that steals from people and murders them in droves and has no moral high ground. This is a weird point. Genocide is a worse crime than theft or murder. (...far worse) People who are "just" murderers (which Citadel Shepard is not) have the high ground when compared to people who commit gennocide, yes. I don't think "not curing the genophage" is genocide, (it's sure not great, though!) but there are other opportunities commit or abet that in the OT. None of the Genocide you do is without a purpose based in self defense. None of it. Genocide is a worse crime because of it's intent. Just calling Shep's actions genocide without realizing the circumstances is the exact idiocy that bothers me about people trying to leap to it as some blanket instant condemnation. The only destruction of race actions you get are the Geth, Quarians and the Rachni and all of those can be justified in the defense of other races. Breaking into some scientists lab and shooting up everyone so you can get a handful of credits? Not so much.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:36:09 GMT
Wrex knew Shep, that's how he knew she/he lied to him. Wreav knows nothing. Not to mention other krogans. They'd blindly believe and keep their hopes. Especially if other species would show them support. And you can bet salarians would lick their asses just to cover up what they forced Shep to do. Nah Wrex doesn't know because of Shep it's that he has a secondary source in STG that's not Mordin (because he's not an idiot that places all his eggs in one basket like Wreav). That and I'm pretty sure more Salarians would be willing to reach out to Wrex than Wreav in comparison.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:32:04 GMT
Like I'm sorry but I can't take the genocide is so bad people seriously I can't. You lot seem deluded to me. It's a video game and if you wanna be so but it's bad I'm wondering why you're playing a game where the main character mows down people by the thousands without an inkling of remorse (when they don't show amusement at it), steals people shit (because I highly doubt you guys aren't looting), probably takes people's last savings (again because of the looting), barges into people's homes (even if they're criminals) and steals their shit/kills them.
But I'm supposed to believe man that's soooo much better than the PC killing the geth/quarians and keeping the genophage to maintain peace? Like doing the latter makes the PC an irredeemable monster but the other shit well that's just because they shot first how dare they try to stop you from invading! Despite the other shit being completely unrelated to the player's main mission and all that bs is avoidable? I don't get it.
FOH.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:22:40 GMT
Because you invaded their territory. Okay so where is the genocide that occurs in game that's not in combat? Don't say the genophage because the Krogan are clearly still alive. It's not an invasion. And both bad options at the end of Rannoch qualify, as does the Destroy ending. God forbid the Asari ever be exposed as the cheat code hording cons they are. Well, they're not. But hey, can't miss out on attempting to screw over the most feminine race. How the fuck is breaking into their offices not an invasion? You chill with secret police breaking your door down? Wrong that happens in combat and self defense. (not to mention it's quite possible some Quarians/Geth managed to escape). As for Destroy that was the price of stopping the Reapers permanently. (Not to mention because it's the result of the beam to destroy the Reapers I could argue that's combat too.) Like this whole genocide is so awful and ignoring the game's situations surrounding it is laughable.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:19:12 GMT
I'll deal with your ludicrous position later; for now, I'll point out that you've completely moved the goalposts from the reason for my ultimatum to begin with; i.e. the picture is clearly not one of imparting information, but rather lulz-motified demoralization. Yep Javik is running demoralizing everyone by telling the truth, he must be silenced God forbid the Asari ever be exposed as the cheat code hording cons they are.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:18:41 GMT
So you have the high ground to come into their territory adn shoot them because they didn't put up a double sign? K then. Doesn't matter if it's a right or not they're invading their territory and yes they protect themselves. You have absolutely no need to go patrolling in any office whatsoever in ME1 outside of the Rachni building. Also you must be joking about the spurious claim. Your PC kills people and LAUGHS about this you realize? All of Citadel is Shepard and Co killing people and joking about it. This is why I find the "you're a sociopath because you do genocide in a game!" to be so fucking dumb. If you actually have a problem with killing massive amounts of people in a game you wouldn't play most of them. It smacks of hypocrisy while failing to realize your PC is kind of a shit bag that steals from people and murders them in droves and has no moral high ground. They shot first. ERCS has no stake in this other than bribe money (to say nothing of the idea that criminals "defending" themselves against law enforcement makes sense to begin with). Also, shock of shocks, killing people in combat is quite different from genocide. Because you invaded their territory. Okay so where is the genocide that occurs in game that's not in combat? Don't say the genophage because the Krogan are clearly still alive.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:13:49 GMT
For invading their territory after someone clearly told you not to go in yes. It was locked down you remember? You either bully/charm/barge your way in. Because you're in top secret areas rummaging through shit you shouldn't be touching and your PC is heavily armed. You don't know the civilian workforce is being murdered until you already break in. Actually, only Aria's people talk to you; the Blue Suns shoot on sight. If Aria's people were controlling access and I'm able to bypass them, the Blue Suns would have to erect their own checkpoint if they wanted any kind of moral high ground. As for Noveria, Shepard's a Spectre and has every right to be there. Your enemies are just Anoleis' criminal thugs. The same applies to Thane's recruitment mission, and in any case, the only arguable crime there is breaking and entering, which isn't nearly enough to justify an already spurious "you kill too many people to object to genocide" claim. So you have the high ground to come into their territory adn shoot them because they didn't put up a double sign? K then. Doesn't matter if it's a right or not they're invading their territory and yes they protect themselves. You have absolutely no need to go patrolling in any office whatsoever in ME1 outside of the Rachni building. Also you must be joking about the spurious claim. Your PC kills people and LAUGHS about this you realize? All of Citadel is Shepard and Co killing people and joking about it. This is why I find the "you're a sociopath because you do genocide in a game!" to be so fucking dumb. If you actually have a problem with killing massive amounts of people in a game you wouldn't play most of them. It smacks of hypocrisy while failing to realize your PC is kind of a shit bag that steals from people and murders them in droves and has no moral high ground.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:09:35 GMT
That's called a joke. I'm sure you've heard at least 5 or 6 of them in your life. I proved your point by saying that Sloan is crazy bitch? Alright..? Well they didnt start waging wars on other species until they got fucked over after rachni wars. I mean, I'm not saying krogans are total angels, but comparatively speaking? They're the most honest and pure of the council space races and have fucked over THE LEAST amount of people over. They're usually good. No you proved my point by saying people get screwed over when they're brash and violent. Again. They couldn't wage a war on another species til after the Rachni War. They weren't a space faring species. They were literally uplifted to deal with the Rachni. It's impossible for them to have fucked over any species not native to Tuchanka before the rachni wars. The most honest yes. And they screwed the least amount of people over because the other races kicked their asses in before they could become a menace.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:05:51 GMT
I love krogans. I really do. Grunt is a son-figure to my fShep and Drack is a father-figure to my Sara so you know... I played many variations, I even fucked up once and end up killing Mordin (had to reload the game and let him use the cure...). But as I said before, no matter what we chose, war with krogans will happen sooner or later because that's how they are and psychotic krogans are a majority. If they didn't start a war in the first place, genophage would never happen. But they did. So saving a doctor who can cure them afterwards (his student too) and having an idiot under our boot for who knows how long is still a safer option than a leader who can end up dead any time because he's not really respected by other clans. Ironically, I don't like krogan in general, but still cured the genophage. Omega, Noveria, Thane's recruitment quest for some examples (My internet is being a bastard so yay) Omega where? Where Blue Suns try to murder you for walking down a street, or where all three gangs are trying to murder another guy? On Noveria, corrupt ERCS guards will always attack you first. Thane's recruitment mission I would give you... if it weren't for the fact that Eclipse was busy murdering the tower's civilian workforce. For invading their territory after someone clearly told you not to go in yes. It was locked down you remember? You either bully/charm/barge your way in. Because you're in top secret areas rummaging through shit you shouldn't be touching and your PC is heavily armed. You don't know the civilian workforce is being murdered until you already break in.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:02:49 GMT
I love krogans. I really do. Grunt is a son-figure to my fShep and Drack is a father-figure to my Sara so you know... I played many variations, I even fucked up once and end up killing Mordin (had to reload the game and let him use the cure...). But as I said before, no matter what we chose, war with krogans will happen sooner or later because that's how they are and psychotic krogans are a majority. If they didn't start a war in the first place, genophage would never happen. But they did. So saving a doctor who can cure them afterwards (his student too) and having an idiot under our boot for who knows how long is still a safer option than a leader who can end up dead any time because he's not really respected by other clans. Wrex IS respected by other clans though, that's the entire gist of his actions in ME2, even clans that don't personally like him join up. The thing is Wrex's power mostly came from his alliance with the females and him not being too stuck in his ways to listen to them. No one could attack him without putting a majority of fertile females at risk.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 23:01:51 GMT
No it really isn't. MEA (which let's not even get into how fucking stupid it was for them to even waste space on the Krogan on the first damn place) shows Krogan being used yes, but so were people like Sloan Kelly. They're not special snowflakes in that matter. Also they were violent before they were even uplifted by the Salarians. They blew their home planet to dust but were hardy and survived damage that would kill other species it's why the Salarians uplifted them. They were violent and damn good at it and if they'd been left alone they probably would've chilled the fuck out over time. Alas that didn't occur. we have a krogan speciest here! Um, Sloan Kelly was just dime-a-dozen allegience-shifting rat with a boner for war-mongering and control. She's caused more problems than she solved, and that's a totally different can of worms. Well krogans just need to an outlet for their passion of battle, who can blame them if they overdid it a tad bit on their home planet, but hey, they did not wage wars on other species until they got treated like dirt during rachni wars lmao yes I'm super racist against a fictional race. (I'm not a quarian fan either honestly) ...which pretty much describes plenty of Krogan. So...thanks for proving my point? Also they couldn't wage wars on other species until the Rachni Wars because they weren't space faring and the only people they fought were each other. (To the extent they practically destroyed their planet.)
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 5, 2017 22:58:36 GMT
Self-defense via invading someone's home and shooting at them when they try to stop your invading ass? Yes what a upstanding person! Obviously nothing in ME3 counts as this, so I'll need examples from the first two games if you want to prove your point. Omega, Noveria, Thane's recruitment quest for some examples (My internet is being a bastard so yay)
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