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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 3:37:34 GMT
So glad I wasn't the only one who wanted to end that by letting her get what was coming to her. Her and Addison can both fuck off. Spoilered for caution and ranting: You know what I resented the most? The implication that babies make Kennedy's selfishness ok, and Ryder should just be happy for the first human baby in Andromeda. No. That attitude can fuck right off, because finite resources and future planning ARE TOTALLY A THING. Children are not a blanket excuse for bad behavior, and that is probably one of my biggest pet peeves IRL.
If it meant getting Akksul to back off of Jaal's family, I would have fed every damn person in that quest chain to the Roekkar. Exactly I'm like why the fuck am I congratulating the woman for spawning when there was a very clear reason why everyone else was not? Like that kind of selfishness was just completely beyond. And she had no real plan for survival anyway so all the she would've done is had a dead baby on her hands. What a fucking idiot.
lmao agreed.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 3:35:11 GMT
Lol, my Sara clearly didn't think this Andromeda Initiative thing through. Scott had a wonderful line in the datamine that i never found in game "in case you havent noticed it might be a bit hard for me to get pregnant" D: nooo they should've kept that. Sassy Scott is best Scott.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 3:21:36 GMT
I've yet to meet the infamous Jill. This thread has got me hyped for my run in with the Wicked Witch of the East. Unless, she is a Gil romance cut away in which case, I'll have to youtube it. Jill permeates the game romance or no. She's always there trying to impregnate everyone. Yeah it's just awkward. Lady can you wait for us to actually settle down? We're still trying to not die at this point damn.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 3:07:34 GMT
It doesn't help that her associated quest (ZK Trackers) was my most loathed quest in the game. My two least favorite characters turned up in that wild goose chase (Addison and Kennedy), and to top it all off, I couldn't even yell at them properly. I wanted to let the kett overrun that stupid shuttle. So glad I wasn't the only one who wanted to end that by letting her get what was coming to her. Her and Addison can both fuck off.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 3:02:22 GMT
Huh yeah a few adjustments and it'd worked just fine?
But clearly Cora's ass needed the love more. Obviously.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 2:45:16 GMT
Has anyone gotten the video link to work. It redirects to my video manager for some reason. same. The link's probably broken.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 2:33:23 GMT
And it will also surface here. The image (NSFW): Source (also NSFW duh) And that couldn't be shown in the game because? The tweaking to make it look less floaty would've been too much?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 2:11:59 GMT
"Energy sucker" is a useless metric for a move unless you're in sustained combat, e.g. pvp or raid bosses, situations in which companions are not relevant. Sweeping Blasters is amazing because it's a) spammable and you can get off 6 or 7 in a row. That's overkill for every mob except for raid trash. Who cares about 20 energy in heroics, let alone regular pve quests? Before 3.0, Sweeping Blasters was adequate and made for a good AoE before you got XS Flyby (and then a fine additional AoE after you got it); after 3.0, it became a foundational move that does insane damage. Of course Flyby was better before 3.0, but, y'know, you didn't get it until late game. And that doesn't change the original argument which was: slingers have great AoE, so tank comps can be useful to them by grouping up enemies to AoE. Whether you used SB or Flyby to do it doesn't matter. You could still kill ridiculous amounts of enemies far more quickly than most other classes. I don't know why you would use your pre-5.0 droid cc on something and then roll away from it because it would be out of the fight for 60 seconds. That...that doesn't make any sense to me. Why not just kill it? Why waste time rolling, which is not DPS uptime? I can get CCing a particularly dangerous part of a large mob, but why the roll? This is just a very alien way of thinking about the game to me. Talking about all the rolls and using healer comps makes me think that your DPS was just bad and you had to kite enemies a lot (thus maximizing the use of your healer). Early game comp tank survivability pre-4.0 was high because there was way less difference between your tank's likely stats and the best possible stats at that level than there would be at very high levels. They had survivability equivalent to or better than an incompetent player. Survivability declined as you got close to 50 because kitting your comps out was too much of a hassle and because enemies hit way harder compared to your gear level at that point of the game. How many people got companions in full Dread Guard? It got easier in 3.0 with the Devoted Allies gear from Yavin 4 that made comp gearing trivial. But this is, again, arguing about relatively nothing. Whether you talk about early game or late game tank survivability, the fact of the matter is that either way, comp tanks were good enough to last you through a couple-three AoEs, enough to wipe your typical enemy mob. Comp healers were certainly no more or less adept at keeping themselves and you alive, and they were significantly less useful for AoE purposes, and all your arguments about gearing companions applies equally to healers as it does to tanks like Corso. I'm just going to accept that your playstyle is totally alien to me, and that if you're a person who plays ranged dps classes who can't think of a reason to have a tank, you can stay that way. We can, however, agree that Corso's ninjamance sucked. You're not getting five in a row let alone six or seven. Especially considering the energy regen gets nerfed each time you use it so you don't even want to use it more than twice unless you like wasting your time. Um...why would someone care about not wasting their time? Is that a serious question? After 3.0 I had treek so I really didn't give a fuck about Kaliyo anymore. And my original argument was back when Kaliyo was your only companion choice (before 2.3) it sucked. (which it did). A tank companion back then was awful. Now it's not an issue but now nothing is much of an issue because the game's laughably easy now. ...did you do heroics in 2.0? There's plenty of reasons to CC the gold droid, roll away from it and continue attacking everything else. Who the hell wants to get instantly knocked back, thrown out of cover ( probably pulled by the other gold droid and then lept to by several other mobs assuming it doesn't knock you into another mob group since they were so close together!) the second it snaps out of the mez? (not to mention depending on the area there's a chance some asshole will end the mez early by mistake or on purpose). As for my dps being bad who knows I've never had any complaints but hey maybe you who have never played a game with know me better than my pvp guildies eh? Survivability that lasted about a minute against 2 silver mobs (and that's me being generous. 15 seconds was more likely). That's not very high. And yeah tanks got more crap as you hit 50 (til you began auging their gear then it goes back up). Three SF wasn't killing more than 3 silvers and if there was a gold it wasn't happening. As for comparing comp healers (who actually benefited from being able to use the PC's hand me downs) is unbalanced. Of course the healer served the cunning based PC better. They got better gear. That kind of was my point. Oh I can think of plenty of reasons to have a tank in a group scenario. I just can't think of a good reason to have a AI based tank over a AI based healer. A good player tank is perfectly capable of carrying a team without heals (or with mediocre ones) I am friends with several. An AI based tank is garbage however an AI healer is better for the mere reason that they don't have to think they just have to heal one target. On that we can agree.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 1:20:10 GMT
Saresh was a perfectly normal politician that BioWare probably intended to be seen as a 'good' leader up until 3.2. In 3.2 she acts kind of dumb, and it's clear that they started flanderizing her then. In 4.0 they turned her into an out-and-out dictator. Tanks are amazing for early game slingers because they get their quality AoEs really really early , and slingers/snipers have the best early game AoE (surpassed late game by guardian/jugg). You get Sweeping Gunfire/Suppressive Fire at level 6, for crying out loud; even before 5.0, you got it at or before level 20 (it fluctuated depending on the expansion). It's not "garbage/energy wasting" and hasn't been since long before even 2.0. With your quality AoEs, it takes basically zero time to kill a large group of enemies, and your tank takes relatively low damage. I'm not sure why you think that early game comp tank survivability is low (it is actually higher at low levels than it is at high levels), I'm not sure why you would waste time doing pvp stuff like rolling, kb, and mezzing against pve enemies...like, where are you getting your opinions from? It is genuinely bemusing to me. Tanks are great companions for slingers/snipers, especially early, which is why they gave us Corso and Kaliyo first. Like, did you confuse Gunslinger with Scoundrel, or something? What you said would make a lot more sense that way. It wouldn't make that much sense, because backstabs and shotguns, but it'd help. Eh I felt she was pretty stupid even in the early game fps honestly. She always came across as an opportunist to me so her becoming a dictator didn't really surprise me. Like my first "really?" towards her was on Balmorra. She just came across as so fake. No they really don't. It was garbage/energy wasting until you got the upgrades for it which again didn't occur til like lvl 20+ I'm not confusing this with anything. Suppression Fire was always pretty so so at clearing mobs because nine times out of ten the mobs moved out of it before you were even finished casting. (Also calling early game suppression fire a quality AOE is hilarious in itself) It cost 20 energy (which is a fifth of your energy) for so so damage. It was an energy sucker. Like what enemies were you fighting that died in one SF that weren't trash mobs? OS (before the nerf) was always vastly superior. (OS now is garbage but yeah). As for why would I roll, kb and mez in PVE (Really you never mezzed a gold robot and rolled away from it? Huh odd.) Saying those are related to just pvp is ridiculous. Trying to solo a heroic with Kaliyo was an exercise in frustration. Healer comps were always better for that. My opinion is from me playing the game. Kaliyo was the most worthless companion by a long shot. Trying to kill an mob of silvers was just rage inducing because either she couldn't hold aggro and I wasted half my time knocking back and mezing enemies, or she did hold aggro and got her ass kicked in and I still ended up wasting my time knocking back and mezzing enemies. (And if there was more than one gold I was dead if I didn't mostly kill it before she bit the dust). Early game comp tank survivability is low especially since it used to be gear based and you weren't getting good gear for a tank as sniper unless you were wasting resources you could've put to yourself or were using legacy gear from another comp (which trivializes everything and makes all of this a non issue). I leveled nine snipers I didn't confuse it for anything. She actually was useful for my Op because between the off heals and the stealth I was perfectly capable of soloing most encounters. (well that and most shit had gotten nerfed into oblivion by the time I was playing operative). That and tanks are far more useful for concealment/deception. Like now yeah it wouldn't matter if they gave you a drunk bramin for your first companion in 5.0 (or whatever) because of the profile switching and the auto scaling of gear. But I literally paid for Treek because Kaliyo was such a garbage tier companion to have so long. (Treek also even in tank stance is preferable since her AI isn't as garbage tier).
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 0:29:32 GMT
I play LS FSW honestly I love her snark but she's still a top too. I don't think there's any variation of warrior you can play that's not one. Warrior knows what they want and get it lol. I'm pretty sure he and Elana are gonna be faction based so he'll have pretty good chances of not dying. I'm pretty sure this game is 50-50 (or something really close to it) when it comes to faction decisions. Probably one of the only BW games that's the case for. WOW you calling me a sucker? RUDE. Don't you judge me *finger snap* Seriously tho I see why he did it and it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why you didn't get the choice to kill him there but that's the game's fault not his. (Also he was not the only one to get that should live when it made no sense card. Looking at you Ashara/Xalek and Skadge/Gault (actually BH was particularly bad at this. Everyone else got just 1 person that should've been shot and they get 2). They're going to let people choose what faction they side with on Iokath, actually. (That's how they're making OW PvP work: it's your Iokath faction, not your starting faction.) That said, I assume people who side Imp will choke him because that is what Imps do, and people who side Pub will kill him because he's the enemy. It would be mildly surprising if they didn't include ample opportunities to do the thing that most of the game's playerbase has wanted to do since Voss. Shit, they acknowledged the Saresh hateboner crowd by turning her evil and letting you execute her, and that's a smaller demographic. Tanks are great for slingers, idk what you're talking about. I like not having infinity melee mobs in my face, and I like having everything grouped to AoE it down quickly. And yeah, the Quinnmance is for suckers. Sorry, not sorry. I feel entitled to be salty because SWTOR's romances were a slap in the face. I didn't say they weren't? I meant the person you recruit is probably tied to whole you side with. That said yeah there will probably be a chance to kill him (I hope it's an either/or scenario like Torian so he can still be in the story without having to be completely sidelined). Saresh was always an idiot tho. Taking her out became clear before KOTFE even happened. Tanks are awful for early game snipers because they can't tank for shit then and as soon as they die you get swarmed. And early game snipers don't have all the good shit late game snipers have. As soon as someone gets on top of you as an early game sniper it's GG if you don't have heals. Late game sniper? Yeah lol just roll away constantly and knockback and root/mez. Late game sniper doesn't care what they have. You're not doing that constantly at lvl 1 - 30. Shit you didn't even have any AOE that wasn't that garbage energy wasting cover fire or the grenade before the whole companion can be anything thing happened at that level. Like I leveled nine snipers. Kaliyo was a TERRIBLE first companion choice for how long you had to have her. (Doesn't help her personality is garbage too). Lmao nah I loved my Quinn just fine
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 0:15:51 GMT
Eww Tharan is disgusting.
He's so slimy. Plus he ditches you for his AI. Nah.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 0:13:49 GMT
Oh please Quinn's a super bottom. Like super duper bottom. I mean he even writes you that letter about being okay with all the shit you're probably gonna put him through because he loves you that much. And his reaction to you choking the shit out of him is to beg you to stay with him. Quinn's my favorite swtor LI you want to know who's cancer? Fucking Corso Riggs. That's cancer. Quinn's obviously a bottom and Insane Terrifying DS Monster FSW is obviously a top. Sure. But even if you count the Cartel Market, Skadge, the lack of recent group content, the lack of gay people, and fleet gen chat, Quinn is still the worst thing about the game. If I had to lay odds, I'd say that 70% of the game's players are going to murder him in 5.2, 28% aren't going to even get to the Iokath dailies, and 2% are suckers for idiot white men with posh English accents who sound like they have a cold. I play LS FSW honestly I love her snark but she's still a top too. I don't think there's any variation of warrior you can play that's not one. Warrior knows what they want and get it lol. I'm pretty sure he and Elana are gonna be faction based so he'll have pretty good chances of not dying. I'm pretty sure this game is 50-50 (or something really close to it) when it comes to faction decisions. Probably one of the only BW games that's the case for. WOW you calling me a sucker? RUDE. Don't you judge me *finger snap* Seriously tho I see why he did it and it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why you didn't get the choice to kill him there but that's the game's fault not his. (Also he was not the only one to get that should live when it made no sense card. Looking at you Ashara/Xalek and Skadge/Gault (actually BH was particularly bad at this. Everyone else got just 1 person that should've been shot and they get 2). Edit: RE edit: Wait they removed it? Nice. But yeah after class switching meh (He was always pretty useless anyway since I play slinger. Wtf I need a tank for? Another reason Kaliyo makes me fucking rage. The only companion you had for ages as a sniper was a tank?!? WHY)
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 4, 2017 0:08:30 GMT
Oh please Quinn's a super bottom. Like super duper bottom. I mean he even writes you that letter about being okay with all the shit you're probably gonna put him through because he loves you that much. And his reaction to you choking the shit out of him is to beg you to stay with him. Quinn's my favorite swtor LI you want to know who's cancer? Fucking Corso Riggs. That's cancer. ugh i hate Corso Riggs..Torian is the best IMO Like if I had to rate the dudes I'd do it. Quinn Theron Torian Revel (I can't spell his first name to save my life) Doc Vector Iresso (he's not bad he's just dull) Aric (I don't play Trooper) Koth (Fuck Koth you whiny bastard) Every single fling in the game (Yes that includes antagonists) Corso Riggs
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:52:43 GMT
(Like for instance Quinn being dominate over my Femwarrior. LMFAO not a goddamn chance.) haha I never knew that about Quinn that's hilarious as if we needed another reason Quinn is cancer meanwhile I'll just sit over here mooning over LS Jaesa Oh please Quinn's a super bottom. Like super duper bottom. I mean he even writes you that letter about being okay with all the shit you're probably gonna put him through because he loves you that much. And his reaction to you choking the shit out of him is to beg you to stay with him. Quinn's my favorite swtor LI you want to know who's cancer? Fucking Corso Riggs. That's cancer.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:46:21 GMT
Oh good grief no. I really hope the Quarian warning was because of the Geth. I rather get Geth back than Reapers. Let it all be a geth misunderstanding because they smuggled themselves aboard with us having to relearn the whole heretic/normal geth thing. And yes if the Reapers are connected to the Jaardan I might throw something. I thought maybe the Quarians ended up in the wrong cluster or something with more Kett, since it's obvious they aren't only in Heleus. Oh that works too. I admit though I really want the Geth back. We got everyone but them and I love my geth babies.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:44:27 GMT
Fortunately any possibility can be true. And any explicit sex scenes involving m/m characters in the future I would hope have an option to determine the roles to keep the rpgness in tact. This, I really doubt will happen. They'd have to make two whole scenes for every m/m character, probably three dialogue options to imply top/bottom/vers. IMO, it's not worth that kind of resources and I know they're not going to think it is. We're lucky if we get one scene and a decent amount of content. But I still think these highly detailed sex scenes were a dumb idea, to begin with. It doesn't feel like they had the time and resources to work out even the few they did without shorting everything else. Agreed. I really don't even like it when my fem PC is all super girly in love scenes to begin with. I'm good with some kissing and ftb so I can hc away. (Like for instance Quinn being dominate over my Femwarrior. LMFAO not a goddamn chance.) The nudity can be left to the post sex talk if it's needed. I'm good with some rolling around kissing and ftb for everyone. Put those animation resources where everyone can see them.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:39:03 GMT
I just got that "Dearest" email from Jaal. IT'S A FRIENDSHIP ICON FOR A REASON, JAAL. Now I have to feel all guilty because he thinks I wanna boink him and I don't. Jeez. Yeah I was glad I locked in Liam early because it'd been awkward to be all "Sorry bro but human ride only."
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:36:17 GMT
Yeah that's...something. I wonder if you could mod her romance back in for Scott? Since they removed it so recently everything's probably still in there. Wouldn't someone have found something during the Great Datamining of a Few Weeks Ago? Bi Jaal was in the code, but not the voice overs. How old was the build the guidescribes played? Who can say. Well never know~ Oh true. But was anyone looking for bi Suvi voice files tho?
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:33:36 GMT
Really hope they don't end up Reaper like. Also I'd be fine with the Kett being the main baddies and whatever it was that wiped the Jardaan either buggered off or they ended up killing each other.
I doubt the Reapers will follow. The Reapers directive was for the MW galaxy. They have no logical reason to follow them to Andromeda. If anything they should've just blown up the Arks as they came across them if they interacted with them at all. I swear if I see another Reaper I will lose it. They were bad enough to deal with in the trilogy. I blew her up. Why anyone would spare an AI that already is willing to kill people is beyond me. Friendly AI only please. The rest of them can bounce. I agree. Having the Angara say they think it will follow us here had me worried, and if we find out the Quarian warning is because a Reaper tagged along, I will be less than happy. Even more so if the Reapers are somehow connected to the Jaardan. They wanted a new start, please keep it that way.
Oh good grief no. I really hope the Quarian warning was because of the Geth. I rather get Geth back than Reapers. Let it all be a geth misunderstanding because they smuggled themselves aboard with us having to relearn the whole heretic/normal geth thing. And yes if the Reapers are connected to the Jaardan I might throw something.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:11:32 GMT
I still can't believe Suvi was gonna be bi. Like Scott didn't have enough chicks to bang. It's disgusting. She isn't actual rep for us, just another notch on Scott's belt changed at the last minute cos uh-oh we forgot to shoe in a lez. :gasp: Yeah that's...something. I wonder if you could mod her romance back in for Scott? Since they removed it so recently everything's probably still in there.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:09:17 GMT
*disgusted noise* But why not? The whole point of Meridian was to terraform the planets. If anything they should've wanted them to find it earlier rather than their planets becoming steadily inhabitable. If Meridian hadn't been found the Angaran would've eventually died out due to a lack of resources with their planets going bad. They already have to cycle people going to Aya it would've only gotten worse.
I'm pretty sure the Scourge was used against the Jardaan. Otherwise it destroying their own planets makes the Jardaan look laughably incompetent. That said I hope they're not AIs (though it'd make sense that humans can't process the information without an AI safely) because like I said I really really don't want Reapers 2.0 That's the question. Why not? That's what I hope gets answered. What the heck were they planning and was it really all in the name of science as that one Jaardan implied?
I was thinking of an Atlantis scenario with the Jaardan lol they created something bad and fucked themselves up, making them also vulnerable to whatever they were fighting. I would actually be disappointed if the Kett are the main baddies and hope they are like the Geth and just something there but not the major issue.
There is a datapad that has an Angara saying that the MW races ran away from something horrible and it will follow them to Andromeda. I hope that's not foreshadowing anything Reaper-wise. Really hope they don't end up Reaper like. Also I'd be fine with the Kett being the main baddies and whatever it was that wiped the Jardaan either buggered off or they ended up killing each other.
I doubt the Reapers will follow. The Reapers directive was for the MW galaxy. They have no logical reason to follow them to Andromeda. If anything they should've just blown up the Arks as they came across them if they interacted with them at all. I swear if I see another Reaper I will lose it. They were bad enough to deal with in the trilogy. Speaking of the AI, what did everyone do with that? I gave her to the Angara because she kept lying, but I kind of wanted to send her to SAM because of the possibility he might learn something later. I blew her up. Why anyone would spare an AI that already is willing to kill people is beyond me. Friendly AI only please. The rest of them can bounce.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 23:03:51 GMT
Sorry but that was straight up horrendous? 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you' seriously? Be happy with your scraps homos, straight Scott dicks Andromeda is the way of the future. I still can't believe Suvi was gonna be bi. Like Scott didn't have enough chicks to bang.
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 22:59:08 GMT
True but them forgetting how to do it just because they're at war with the Kett (especially considering they'd need said resources against the Kett) is already hitting my this doesn't make much sense button. If it was as easy to learn as that console suggests (remember they did used to have AI so it's not like they didn't have the first steps to learning the language there) the knowledge should've been widespread enough that the Kett attack shouldn't have completely obliterated it to its current level.
The only way it makes sense is if an AI is always necessary otherwise the pain is completely unbearable for the vast majority of people. Which would be a reasonable solution more people will learn how to do it but by no means will it be some common thing ever. Most likely you'll always need an AI to use a majority of Remnant tech reliably and safely with few exceptions (like opening/closing the doors as the sages do). Thus once they lost the AI and then the people who relied on the AI most of their ability to use it vanished.
Oh I agree that doesn't make it any less absurd tho. If the Angaran hadn't been developed and had that tech on their planets all along I'd get it. But as it is it's laughable that humans need to show them how to use the tech that's been sitting on their planet all this time and they can all learn it. The AI being a requirement for anything massive would really solve most of that humans are special BS.
but dont you know humans ARE special *disgusted noise* The Jaardan removing their ability to use Remnant tech doesn't really fit unless using said technology has severe consequences (which could be good as it's another reason the knowledge wouldn't be widespread and the MW races using it too much comes to blow up in their faces) like sending a flare to whoever made the Scourge. Removing their knowledge is still the big question it seems. Jaal said Meridian's core felt familiar, so his ancient past self saw it most likley, meaning they started there. After that it just gets confusing to me. As you said, maybe their knowledge of the tech would have led them to using it at the wrong time. Maybe they didn't want them to find Meridian and learn of their existence?
I'm also trying to figure out if the Scourge was meant to be a weapon of mass destruction against their enemy, or the enemy's weapon of mass destruction. Something seriously went wrong. Also since the Jaardan don't value single lives and see a bigger picture, I wonder if they are AI's of some sort. We did meet an ancient Angara woman in AI form. But why not? The whole point of Meridian was to terraform the planets. If anything they should've wanted them to find it earlier rather than their planets becoming steadily inhabitable. If Meridian hadn't been found the Angaran would've eventually died out due to a lack of resources with their planets going bad. They already have to cycle people going to Aya it would've only gotten worse.
I'm pretty sure the Scourge was used against the Jardaan. Otherwise it destroying their own planets makes the Jardaan look laughably incompetent. That said I hope they're not AIs (though it'd make sense that humans can't process the information without an AI safely) because like I said I really really don't want Reapers 2.0
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 22:46:10 GMT
True but them forgetting how to do it just because they're at war with the Kett (especially considering they'd need said resources against the Kett) is already hitting my this doesn't make much sense button. If it was as easy to learn as that console suggests (remember they did used to have AI so it's not like they didn't have the first steps to learning the language there) the knowledge should've been widespread enough that the Kett attack shouldn't have completely obliterated it to its current level.
The only way it makes sense is if an AI is always necessary otherwise the pain is completely unbearable for the vast majority of people. Which would be a reasonable solution more people will learn how to do it but by no means will it be some common thing ever. Most likely you'll always need an AI to use a majority of Remnant tech reliably and safely with few exceptions (like opening/closing the doors as the sages do).
Oh I agree that doesn't make it any less absurd tho. If the Angaran hadn't been developed and had that tech on their planets all along I'd get it. But as it is it's laughable that humans need to show them how to use the tech that's been sitting on their planet all this time and they can all learn it. Chances are the Jaardan removed that knowledge until the time was right, and once they hit the "on" switch things might get crazy. They made the Angara for some unknown reason, and fashioned them after them in looks it seems, but why strip them of the knowledge needed to stop the Kett? I'm hoping this is part of a future plot and not another dark matter story that gets shafted. The Jaardan removing their ability to use Remnant tech doesn't really fit unless using said technology has severe consequences (which could be good as it's another reason the knowledge wouldn't be widespread and the MW races using it too much comes to blow up in their faces) like sending a flare to whoever made the Scourge. Hopefully they won't be Reapers 2.0
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Post by Ryzaki on Apr 3, 2017 22:36:06 GMT
In regards to the second spoiler That's contradicted by the very fact that Angaran still can't figure out rem tech to a decent extent despite having centuries to do so. So either that's BS or we have another case of humans are special (and I really hope that's not the case). Considering to even learn to use Rem-tech involves a great deal of pain most likely an AI will always be needed for the first steps and not that many people are gonna be willing to have an AI stuck in their head to get to the point where they can learn it alone. Agreed on everyone eventually going their separate ways tho. It's easier to do something once someone has already done it. Also, consider that the Angara have been at war for almost a century. They lost a ton of their culture when the Kett arrived, and the majority of their scientific resources have gone towards battling the Kett. Think of how the knowledge of Aya's vault is lost because of one person. If the Kett are no longer a threat, if the Angara are able to discover their lost colonies, and/or if they're able to consolidate their resources/access Initiative resources I bet their research would accelerate significantly. I mean, I personally think it should take a while for random bandits to figure out, but they put it in that console for a reason. I'm guessing it's because they want to plant the seed that Ryder isn't going to be the only one able to do this for very long. True but them forgetting how to do it just because they're at war with the Kett (especially considering they'd need said resources against the Kett) is already hitting my this doesn't make much sense button. If it was as easy to learn as that console suggests (remember they did used to have AI so it's not like they didn't have the first steps to learning the language there) the knowledge should've been widespread enough that the Kett attack shouldn't have completely obliterated it to its current level.
The only way it makes sense is if an AI is always necessary otherwise the pain is completely unbearable for the vast majority of people. Which would be a reasonable solution more people will learn how to do it but by no means will it be some common thing ever. Most likely you'll always need an AI to use a majority of Remnant tech reliably and safely with few exceptions (like opening/closing the doors as the sages do). Thus once they lost the AI and then the people who relied on the AI most of their ability to use it vanished.
Oh I agree that doesn't make it any less absurd tho. If the Angaran hadn't been developed and had that tech on their planets all along I'd get it. But as it is it's laughable that humans need to show them how to use the tech that's been sitting on their planet all this time and they can all learn it. The AI being a requirement for anything massive would really solve most of that humans are special BS.
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