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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:47:36 GMT
I swear 50% of the animation budget was spent on Cora & Sara's asses. Seriously why we couldn't just get some kissing and FTB on everyone I don't know. (especially since the rest of the game really could've used the animation love good grief).
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:43:07 GMT
Liam really is the new Jacob ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/BBCpsoiIHmyzmblpikow.png) poor guy. I'll love you. I could never romance Jacob. It isn't because of meta-knowledge. When I first played ME2, I had no idea about the little, um, surprise in ME3. No, it's because Jacob is a very common name in my family. The sound of the slightly breathy tone in Shep's voice completely grossed me out. Yeah she sounds like just no.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:32:05 GMT
So far Cora (m/f), Peebee (f/f,m/f), and Jaal(f/m) have explicit romance scenes. This bias is now very clear, imo. Liam really is the new Jacob ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/BBCpsoiIHmyzmblpikow.png) poor guy. I'll love you.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:27:28 GMT
Why was that cut? That might actually have given Cora's scene a run for it's money. It's not cut it seems. Oh. Oh my. I'm actually tempted to get the game now. Fuck why did I cancel.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:23:29 GMT
Am I wrong in wishing people wouldn't show boobs unless they learn how to animate gravity? Why was that cut? That might actually have given Cora's scene a run for it's money.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 23:20:45 GMT
If there is a sequel, do you think there is a chance that Gil, Suvi and Reyes get unique faces? Kind of like Leliana from DAO to Inquisition? ? All of the companion characters had unique faces in those games.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 22:17:37 GMT
I admit to some salt over Cora's scene. Because wtf. That looks so good that it shows they could've had the animations looking amazing.
But naaah. Let Ryder have a fucked up face half the time. Because it's not like that's the character we stare at 90% of the time.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 20:32:17 GMT
It kind of bugs me how the animation budget seemed to go into mostly Cora and Peebee. Seriously it's not even used on the goddamn PC. What the hell is that?
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 19:08:17 GMT
That will never stop irritating me. His dialogue doesn't even change towards Dorian in the least bit if he's with the Inquisitor. Like what the hell. So: Bull irritating, if flirting, Zevran's not? Okay. I see these are same: flirt-flirt, what's the difference? Or the problem is: Bull didn't give you a trinket? I liked, that I needed courting to Bull. It's only irritating when it's with everyone except the protagonist. I just want consistency.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 19:07:37 GMT
Eh at least Krem served a purpose otherwise (being the main face of Bull's Chargers and his bond to them). It was handled poorly yes. Just being there is worse imo. The game wouldn't change on iota if they were removed and absolutely nothing would be lost. Krem's purpose as far as the story is concerned is really only to have him there so that the game can talk about trans people, otherwise he acts as the messenger to give you the quest to get Iron Bull and that's pretty much it. With the NPC in ME:A it's not really doing any harm. Sure it's not a shining example of a well written trans character or even a shining example of a well written anything character because it's one of hundreds of one off NPCs that only get a few odd lines of dialogue and nothing else, but that NPC also isn't doing any harm by just being there and not being a big deal to the larger plot. What would be problematic would be if BioWare claimed that was supposed to be actual trans representation in the game, but the fact that a trans character exists and barely does anything isn't itself inherently a terrible thing. Though I also get more annoyed by characters that are constantly in your face about one thing to the point where 90% of their character is just that one trait. I hated Anders in DA2 for every bit of his dialogue being "woe is me, mages are so oppressed". Actually, I don't like most of the party in DA2 because of how much they feel like one note characters but Anders I hated more than the others. So personally I feel like a badly written one note character is worse than one who is just there not doing anything and could be removed from the game without anybody noticing. Ah we're opposites on that front. The latter annoys me more. Also he's hardly in your face about that one issue. It comes up like twice and that's it.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 19:05:48 GMT
Bull flirts with Dorian right in front of you regardless of whether you romance him or not. Same with Cassandra though you get some dialogue changes if you're in a relationship with him. Also Bull's romance isn't serious until you give him the dragon tooth. Him like Zevran stars out as friends with benefits. What does Bull say to Dorian? Does Dorian flirt with him if you're in a relationship? I think I honestly just don't notice this kind of thing when it happens, because it's actually kind of natural to me, too. lol It's just the normal banter with absolutely zero changes. Dorian doesn't really flirt with him back thankfully or I'd punch him in the face more often than I already do. Which again wouldn't bother me so much if Bull was flirty with everyone Quizzy included (Like Zev flirting with anything that moves doesn't bother me because he includes the Warden in that) but when it's everyone but Quizzy it's like "what am I ugly or something?"
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:57:51 GMT
The flirting isn't what I mean by oversharing flirting only annoys me when it's with everyone but my PC. Zev at least spread the love around where's Bull pretty much never complimented you unless he was drunk. The oversharing is Zev did I really need to know about that prince you slept with before slitting his throat? Especially considering I'm technically still your target? That's just feels a wee bit too much like foreshadowing. You couldn't have just gave me the damn earring? Ugh this is the thing I hated most about Bull's romance. He seems almost completely disinterested in the Inquisitor but can't stop flirting with Cass...Dorian...the chantry sisters...the Skyhold servants... If he romances Dorian he seems significantly more invested. That will never stop irritating me. His dialogue doesn't even change towards Dorian in the least bit if he's with the Inquisitor. Like what the hell.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:56:57 GMT
Fenris with Mage Hawke>everybody, the fact that he doesn't rip out your heart(literally) gives me the feel In return, Hawke didn't performed blood ritual on him... ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) I love Fenris romance. The flirting isn't what I mean by oversharing flirting only annoys me when it's with everyone but my PC. Zev at least spread the love around where's Bull pretty much never complimented you unless he was drunk. The oversharing is Zev did I really need to know about that prince you slept with before slitting his throat? Especially considering I'm technically still your target? That's just feels a wee bit too much like foreshadowing. You couldn't have just gave me the damn earring? As I said: Zevran's romance is good, but that not really true, that Bull never complimented his lover. Bull's romance finally more serious, than first sight, just as Zevran's romance. Bull flirts with Dorian right in front of you regardless of whether you romance him or not. Same with Cassandra though you get some dialogue changes if you're in a relationship with him. Also Bull's romance isn't serious until you give him the dragon tooth. Him like Zevran stars out as friends with benefits.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:51:04 GMT
Like it's even worse than Krem. HOW? It's argue it's not worse than Krem because Krem was a walking "Hey look guys it's a trans person look how progressive we are! Did we mention that this person is trans? Other backstory? What other backstory, this is a trans person!". The NPC described in ME:A clearly isn't trying to make a statement of any kind. They're just there. I can forgive a one off side NPC for having virtually nothing to their writing(and I seriously doubt this was a case of "Oh shit we need a trans person. Whatever, just throw one in somewhere"). I forgive it less when it's a character that's meant to have more story and that story is handled piss poorly. Eh at least Krem served a purpose otherwise (being the main face of Bull's Chargers and his bond to them). It was handled poorly yes. Just being there is worse imo. The game wouldn't change on iota if they were removed and absolutely nothing would be lost.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:43:31 GMT
Seriously what an oversharer. Zev. Least Bull stops the oversharing once you're in a romance Zev just ramps it up. Goddamn. Incidentally, I liked Zevran's romance, only a bit annoyed, that continuously flirted with every woman in the group... This bother you? The flirting isn't what I mean by oversharing flirting only annoys me when it's with everyone but my PC. Zev at least spread the love around where's Bull pretty much never complimented you unless he was drunk. The oversharing is Zev did I really need to know about that prince you slept with before slitting his throat? Especially considering I'm technically still your target? That's just feels a wee bit too much like foreshadowing. You couldn't have just gave me the damn earring?
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:40:22 GMT
An entirely incidental NPC you can talk to in that zoomed out camera thing. You're just walking around saying hi to whoever has an E button on them (on PC). You ask why she decided to come to Andromeda and her reply is something along the lines of "because I'm good at my job and my name used to be Stephen."
And that's about it. lmao is this a fucking joke ![:facepalm:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/LnUBktUNmyIRZJVJhGSZ.png) is that what they think representation means? ugh I shouldn't even be surprised Like it's even worse than Krem. HOW?
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:38:59 GMT
Zevran is still my fav DA character and romance, it's really sweet Leliana in other hand.. that was creepy. I think she was playing bard's role all the time. Like her in DAI though. I think she was too but she still clearly loved the Warden. Though I don't think my Cousland's gonna be happy her songbird turned into princess stabitty kill kill.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:30:14 GMT
Especially since Zev was just fine with telling you he boned dudes so it wasn't even consistent for the series. (In fact Zevran told that much more times than I would have liked to hear... – especially that he prefer the women.) Seriously what an oversharer. Zev. Least Bull stops the oversharing once you're in a romance Zev just ramps it up. Goddamn. It kind of feels more like Taliesan killed Ranna out of jealousy if anything in game honestly. And honestly everytime someone brings up how fucked up Zevran's romance was like Alistair's wasn't I have to side eye them. All of the romances in DAO were various shades of wtf. I noticed that, too. Kind of weird how he was the one wielding the knife. Super Yandere really. He was all ready to kill the Warden too.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:24:10 GMT
Wasn't the story when he gives you the earring that it belonged to a guy he banged and then murdered? I remember it seeming like the weirdest thing a love interest could give to me as a symbol of our relationship until MacCready gave me a toy his dead wife carved to commemorate him lying to her about his career choices. Can't remember too much time since I last played DAO. Too much killing and banging :poker: Then there is entry about him being in polyamorous relationship with Taliesen and Rinna, but that was mentioned in WOT not in game. It kind of feels more like Taliesan killed Ranna out of jealousy if anything in game honestly. And honestly everytime someone brings up how fucked up Zevran's romance was like Alistair's wasn't I have to side eye them. All of the romances in DAO were various shades of wtf.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:20:43 GMT
The one thing that really annoyed me about their handling of bi males more than anything else was not having Anders tell female Hawkes about the "friend" in his recruit quest having been like an ex. I've literally never talked to any woman that was happy about it either. It was such a stupid choice. Especially since Zev was just fine with telling you he boned dudes so it wasn't even consistent for the series.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 18:13:25 GMT
I don't know if his lady killer lines mean anything about him being first planned as straight either. Zevran, Anders and Iron Bull on DA's side mostly spoke about random women as well. It really seems like Bioware as well as others gaming studios I'd guess are afraid of having straight-forward gay content in the game, even if it's Bioware. It's alright of Leliana to check out girls, but Zevran just checks out girls as well. I don't think he ever spoke of past-lovers in the game that weren't girls either. So if this is DA's take on bisexual men, well no wonder if ME team that Jaal would be bi while flirting with just girls of the squad. Wasn't the story when he gives you the earring that it belonged to a guy he banged and then murdered? I remember it seeming like the weirdest thing a love interest could give to me as a symbol of our relationship until MacCready gave me a toy his dead wife carved to commemorate him lying to her about his career choices. Yep. Also Taliesan is a male and was Zev's past lover. Zev even asks if the fem PC is bothered by him being bisexual (in a fashion).
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 16:43:52 GMT
So I heard on this other thread that apparently Sara's romance with Liam is also lacking a lot when compared to Scott's And Cora's. I didn't manage to find the vid about Liam's romance though, it doesn't seem like he's that popular ? ![:huh:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MpaFjtwKhHtjDCSZozd0.png) Still kinda sad if they spent their whole budget on Cora and Peebee. Liam is sadly the Kaidan/Jacob figure. As the first human male you recruit he was kind of doomed to meh ness when it comes to popularity.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 14:38:19 GMT
I'm actually playing ME2 to get over disappointment news of ME:A. I think it's easier to deal that trilogy doesn't have that good options. It's the past, past can't be changed, but in future games. ME:A is not past, it was future, now current. I wasn't around with trilogy's development either, just got games years later so there wasn't waiting and hoping involved for me either. Maybe this waiting for release stuff isn't just for me, somehow I always end up getting disappointed. ![:rollseyes:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/FumHmgIatAKrBHKVLvNP.gif) Though it's not like I feel like I'm even demanding much. Well I was around for those. So here's a scenario for you and the others who are praising the original trilogy for their m/m treatment right now: Imagine everything that we just went through and then finding out that, not only was Jaal straight, but so are Gil and Reyes. All of that waiting and hoping and ending up with NOTHING at all. Now imagine that 5-8 years later, you see a bunch of people pining for the good old days and referencing MEA. BG, KOTOR, JE, ME1, DA:O, and ME2 were all awful for m/m content. Please don't forget that and think that they are any better than what we have now. Seriously I'm so confused (also I remember in JE how people were bitching about sharing Sky. Especially that one loony chick like what in the everyloving fuck.) And yeah the Shep's canonically straight and Asari aren't really women whoo boo. All that drama over stupidity.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 5:36:54 GMT
The "chips" in fish and chips are what Americans would call "fries". yes yes I've been to England was trying to make a shitty joke that seems to have not been picked up on Well the first step in self improvement is admitting there's a problem
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 21, 2017 3:58:34 GMT
I have a funny feeling Jaal is still bi and that the prima guide is wrong. The embargo probably prohibited any mention of Jaal's real sexuality until it was completely public. The whole "He was straight then they just patched him to be bi" is another topic altogether though. I'm ecstatic about Vetra and wouldn't mind at all even if she was originally straight but was just patched to bi. But I guess to each their own. *Hides Nexus Mod library of same sex romance mods*. Some dev literally issued an anonymous official statement to a Gamespot reviewer saying Jaal's straight. Jaal is fucking straight. God forbid they have told us that months ago tho. So fake.
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