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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 20, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
I imagine the actual companions will be far more disappointing and dull, especially if the comic characters end up being companions. No offense to people who like them, but I don't see how a group of the Inquisition's C-list agents are going to be able to go up against an Elf god that can petrify people with a thought. I don't see how anyone, even the characters you want, as able to go up against Solas with the level of power he has. Part of the game will almost cdrtainly be finding a way to bring him down to our level again or some mystical artifact that will bring us up to his.
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Post by yogsothoth on Oct 20, 2018 20:37:32 GMT
Hedge mages (the Seer and Saarebas) are known for having unorthodox or unpredictable magic, so it's not unrealistic that they couldn't have some way of countering Solas. Blood mages can control people, and also more powerful in general, so also not impossible a Blood Mage could stop Solas.
The Ambassadoria dwarf is basically a templar. The Spirit Warrior would essentially be a Seeker. The Formless One is one of the most powerful spirits/demons in Thedas, and has a lot of leeway in terms of what it can and can't do.
Dagna is one of the smartest people in Thedas, and could probably invent something to help. The Fog Warrior and Somniari though would require the most ass-pullery of my suggestions. We don't know the extent of the Seheron's alchemy and potion-making beyond making their namesake fog, and Solas's domain is the Fade, so a Somniari may end up being more of hindrance.
I don't know, those are just what I would like to see. I fully expect Marius, Tessa, Vaea, and Aaron to be companions, along with Harding as the returning companion and Calpernia given her history both with the Inquisition and Tevinter. Assuming 9 again, this leaves one Warrior and two Mages, which I'm guessing will include one Qunari and one Grey Warden.
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Post by NotN7 on Oct 27, 2018 12:31:35 GMT
Myself I have been thinking about a member from the Avvar as a possible companion especially fron the Morfran the Under tribe that we exiled to Tevinter (whether it be male or female) since we will just happen to be in the neighborhood.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 17:36:31 GMT
Casting revival on this thread!
Here's what I'd like to see as the companion roster (not only including "new" characters):
1.) Lace Harding -- We've only had one female dwarf across three games and an expansion. It's time for more dwarf lady! Scout Harding is a badass ranged rogue. She's been set up in Trespasser as part of the Inquisition plans in Tevinter. And she's primed to be our first lady dwarf romance since she was a flirt option in DA:I for both male and female Inquisitors of any race. I think she's a lock for returning as a companion. She feels like the right "bridge" character (a la Oghren, Anders, and Varric).
2.) Maevaris Tilani - Another badass. The Lucerni are almost certainly going to play heavily into any Tevinter storylines and, since we've already had Dorian as a party member, I'm hoping that he plays more of a advisor role and Mae is the one who actually comes with us. I love her personality (Mae West -- swoon) and given her connections to Varric, Dorian, Alistair, and Isabela AND her being supported by the Inquisition, it makes sense for her to play a prominent role. I vote for her for one of the mages in our party.
3.) Calpernia - I know that I've already used up three female companion spots with returning characters AND already have a human female Tevinter mage in my list, but Calpernia is pretty interesting. Seeing that her "death" is pretty ambiguous, they've definitely left the door open for her to return. And I think it could be cool to explore a redeemed villain as a companion again. We haven't had one since Loghain and he was not given enough time for real development since you couldn't get him until the end. I'd not be mad to see Calpernia show up.
4.) Ambassadoria dwarf - I want a traditionalist dwarf. So far, none of the dwarves have been proud and loyal to dwarf culture. The Ambassadoria play a really unique role in Tevinter Society, so they could offer a really interesting new perspective on dwarves. Maybe a schemer (a la Dwarf Noble origin) to counterbalance Harding.
5.) Fog Dancer - I want to meet and learn about the Fog Warriors and what better way than to have a Fog Dancer join the group. They are the story tellers of the Fog Warrior culture. As keeper of the lore, s/he can tell us alot about Seheron and the Qunari Invasion from an outside perspective. It's still a little unclear what race/s the Fog Warriors are (I'm assuming human and/or elf), but it's not really stated outright yet. A lot of unexplored details here.
6.) Tevinter Battlemage - I would love to see a full on melee mage complete with haughty arrogant Tevinter attitude. Kind of a cross between the Spirit Warrior and Knight Enchanter specs. But with destruction on a mass scale and the ability to tank.
7.) Agent of Fen'harel - I know this is risky, but I'd really like to see your group infiltrated by a sleeper agent of Fen'harel. Someone who you don't realize is working against you until later in the game. Allowing you to have to decide if you will forgive him/her or attack him/her. A face-to-heel turn character. It's a little cliche, but there's a ton of potential here. We kind of get this with Solas, but I want to see full on betrayal -- not just lying to you and then disappearing from your group at the end.
8.) Gladiator - Tevinter seems to draw loosely on Roman themes. And there's a massive Proving Grounds there. And they keep slaves. I assume that there's probably an arena where slaves are forced to fight. If there is any kind of slave uprising to help (or squash), I would like to see a Spartacus style slave/gladiator who will take the fight to the magisters. Or be "put back in their place" should you not decide to support any kind of reform there. Plus, gladiators are sexy, no?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 10, 2018 17:51:09 GMT
Casting revival on this thread! Here's what I'd like to see as the companion roster (not only including "new" characters): Interessing cast but i don´t believe that 3 Tevinter Mages would be a good and interessing idea. Maybe you can switch your Tevinter Battlemage with someone else. Qunari Saarebas, Mortalitasi Death mage or Rivain Seer. Also no Qunari / Tal-Vashoth?
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 10, 2018 17:56:22 GMT
We still need a tal-vashoth, maybe even a saarebas who managed to escape, any qunari that absolutely loathes the Qun and wears being a tal-vashoth as a badge of honor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 17:57:00 GMT
Casting revival on this thread! Here's what I'd like to see as the companion roster (not only including "new" characters): Interessing cast but i don´t believe that 3 Tevinter Mages would be a good and interessing idea. Maybe you can switch your Tevinter Battlemage with someone else. Qunari Saarebas, Mortalitasi Death mage or Rivain Seer. Also no Qunari / Tal-Vashoth?
It's not an exhaustive list. LOL. And I don't think this will actually BE the list. I was just listing types I'd like to see in the game. There are more that I'd like to see as well. Plus others that I am not excited about that I suspect to see.
I would love to see a Mortalitasi and Rivaini Seer in the future, but I'm holding out that we'll do a Nevarra/Anderfells game and an Antiva/Rivain game in the future. And if we do then I want to see those character there. (Sidenote: I'd also love to see a Kont-aar Qunari if we go to Rivain; I would love to be Raider of the Waking Sea, putting together a crew for a ship if we are in that area of the world!)
I expect we'll see a loyalist Tevinter magister and a Qunari as part of our group in DA4. But I'm not really into either of those per se, which is why I didn't list them.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 10, 2018 18:04:55 GMT
I'm curious as to what kind of elven companions we'll have in our team. One of them is going to betray us (who either gets swept by Solas' propaganda or was working for him all along), aren't they?
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Post by Nyx on Dec 10, 2018 18:05:28 GMT
Just popping in to agree with everyone so far who has mentioned a Rivaini seer, a Fog warrior, and an Ambassadoria dwarf.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 10, 2018 18:36:42 GMT
I would love to see a Mortalitasi and Rivaini Seer in the future, but I'm holding out that we'll do a Nevarra/Anderfells game and an Antiva/Rivain game in the future. And if we do then I want to see those character there. (Sidenote: I'd also love to see a Kont-aar Qunari if we go to Rivain; I would love to be Raider of the Waking Sea, putting together a crew for a ship if we are in that area of the world!) Well Bioware have no problem to include a Tevinter mage like Dorian Pavus in DAI. There is room for other mages than the ones from Tevinter. If Mae and Calpernia are both companions in DA4 then it would almost impossible that the third mage is a magister. Bioware really likes to spice it up with the companions.
Also i would be clichéd to have loyalist Tevinter magister. Why not a loyalist Templar?
A female Qunari maybe for this time a real full Tal-Vashoth could also be neat. Have you ever read the in-engine description from the Valo-Kas leader Shokrakar?
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 10, 2018 21:04:31 GMT
We still need a tal-vashoth, maybe even a saarebas who managed to escape, any qunari that absolutely loathes the Qun and wears being a tal-vashoth as a badge of honor. I'd go one further, since if the Qunari are communists, I want a female tal-vashoth saarebas Ayn Rand; reality and reason over belief and mysticism, individual freedom and rational self interest over collectivism, free and open love over shame and possessive relationships, The Virtues of Selfishness and Evils of Charity, the whole nine yards . We could argue with her, maybe even convince her of some moderation, all to provide a nice contrast to previous Qunari. And if one of Elven allies or even Companions turns out to be Tallis or Gatt, she could read them the Riot act Hawke or Quizzy never could .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 21:11:30 GMT
<snip> And if one of Elven allies or even Companions turns out to be Tallis or Gatt, she could read them the Riot act Hawke or Quizzy never could . Funny you should mention Gatt. I didn't include him on my list earlier because I don't necessarily want to see him as a companion. But I think he's on the shortlist of male returning characters who could become companions. He's different enough that he could be included without being a complete retread of Tallis (although another elf Qunari might be a bit much). But I definitely considered him when I was putting my list together.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 10, 2018 22:04:13 GMT
My wish for the "Companion who could betray you", what if this time we get a Manchurian Agent? A competent and beloved follower who makes constant warnings that they are bad news, but can't go beyond self depreciating humor because they're under a gaes? Or they don't know they're a traitor, having a deep hypnotic commands or even a secret control personality in their subconscious? If you romance them, they wake up screaming in the night, only dimly aware of what they might have done? When you find out, you can swear to free them (even if it might not work), exile them, kill them, or find out how to take control yourself . Think of the drama, the choices, the fan tears! Rest In Peace Yoshimo, you poor, brave, funny, doomed soul .
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 10, 2018 22:18:57 GMT
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 10, 2018 22:47:28 GMT
My wish for the "Companion who could betray you", what if this time we get a Manchurian Agent? Sorry for breaking the tradition but it would be nice to have a mage who didn´t "betray" us. Maybe some other class this time?
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 10, 2018 22:49:31 GMT
Yoshimo wasn't a mage! I could see our resident thief or warrior being a traitor this time. Maybe just selling us out for money or prestige rather than Epic Magic Plans™.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 10, 2018 22:51:45 GMT
My wish for the "Companion who could betray you", what if this time we get a Manchurian Agent? Sorry for breaking the tradition but it would be nice to have a mage who didn´t "betray" us. Maybe some other class this time?
Just where exactly, did I insinuate my hypothetical Manchurian Companion was a mage?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 10, 2018 22:55:39 GMT
Yoshimo wasn't a mage! I could see our resident thief or warrior being a traitor this time. Maybe just selling us out for money or prestige rather than Epic Magic Plans™. Maybe the expected Templar companion? Just for retributive justice. Because it was three times in a row always a mage.
Just where exactly, did I insinuate my hypothetical Manchurian Companion was a mage? Sorry it was generally speaking on my part.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2018 23:01:36 GMT
If they wanted originality, it would need to be a Warrior since we've had Rogues betray us too (Zevran in DAO, Isabela in DA2) while the only Warrior I can think of is Hissrad.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 10, 2018 23:03:39 GMT
If they wanted originality, it would need to be a Warrior since we've had Rogues betray us too (Zevran in DAO, Isabela in DA2) while the only Warrior I can think of is Hissrad. Technically Fenris can go against you if his friendship/rivalry isn't nurtured and you side with the mages so there's that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2018 23:07:53 GMT
If they wanted originality, it would need to be a Warrior since we've had Rogues betray us too (Zevran in DAO, Isabela in DA2) while the only Warrior I can think of is Hissrad. Technically Fenris can go against you if his friendship/rivalry isn't nurtured and you side with the mages so there's that. True, though I was thinking more as a result of plot than just you making a decision they don't like. Counting that: Mages: Wynne, Merrill, Anders, Solas Rogues: Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Sebastian Warriors: Alistair, Fenris, The Iron Bull Yeah Warriors are still the least likely to betray you, either through plot or player choice
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 10, 2018 23:15:13 GMT
Some of the options are really interesting, expecially since we’re going up north and more likely to meet people of countries located in the area.
If we didn’t have Blackwall already in DAI, I’d have liked to have a Warden from the Anderfels, but I guess the ship is sailed for a while.
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 10, 2018 23:17:52 GMT
Technically Fenris can go against you if his friendship/rivalry isn't nurtured and you side with the mages so there's that. True, though I was thinking more as a result of plot than just you making a decision they don't like. Counting that: Mages: Wynne, Merrill, Anders, Solas Rogues: Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Sebastian Warriors: Alistair, Fenris, The Iron Bull Yeah Warriors are still the least likely to betray you, either through plot or player choice You forgot Shale at the Anvil of the Void .
I suppose Loghain and Thom Rainier pre-emptively betray you and atone later, or are prevented from doing so .
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 10, 2018 23:19:22 GMT
True, though I was thinking more as a result of plot than just you making a decision they don't like. Counting that: Mages: Wynne, Merrill, Anders, Solas Rogues: Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Sebastian Warriors: Alistair, Fenris, The Iron Bull Yeah Warriors are still the least likely to betray you, either through plot or player choice You forgot Shale at the Anvil of the Void .
I suppose Loghain and Thom Rainier pre-emptively betray you and atone later, or are prevented from doing so . You’re right. Oops. Huh, then we are actually tied up right now lol.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 10, 2018 23:28:30 GMT
Technically Fenris can go against you if his friendship/rivalry isn't nurtured and you side with the mages so there's that. True, though I was thinking more as a result of plot than just you making a decision they don't like. Counting that: Mages: Wynne, Merrill, Anders, Solas Rogues: Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Sebastian Warriors: Alistair, Fenris, The Iron Bull
Yeah Warriors are still the least likely to betray you, either through plot or player choice To turn against the protagonist to protect their beliefs isn't betrayal, if the protagonist knew about their beliefs. How Anders' a betrayer? Hawke can be betrayer, if they're friends, and as a mage (or with a living mage sister!) supports the Templars. How Fenris' a betrayer, if Hawke doesn't care about him? Of course he will follow his fears. How Merrill can be betrayer? She's a mage. Hawke can be betrayer. How Wynne can be betrayer? She protects her people and her beliefs. How Bull is a betrayer? He's loyal... to the Qun. It was always clear, who is he. Etc... They're not the protagonist's puppets.
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