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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 10, 2018 9:21:26 GMT
But it really makes the player feel disconnected from their character, which is a deathblow for RPG games... I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 10, 2018 9:37:28 GMT
But it really makes the player feel disconnected from their character, which is a deathblow for RPG games... I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. Yes, me too.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 10, 2018 9:42:28 GMT
How does fast-paced combat make you feel disconnected from your character? If anything, pause-and-strategize does that.
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Post by Psychevore on Feb 10, 2018 10:26:27 GMT
It seems the problem with Frostbite is that there's too little effort within in EA to maxime it for every game.
Simple example: many, many of their games feature character creators, from FIFA to ME:A. Yet somehow every game has drastically different character creators.
Why not have a small team build an absolutely fantastic character creator that can be used for every game for years to come?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 12:28:34 GMT
But it really makes the player feel disconnected from their character, which is a deathblow for RPG games... I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. As did I and my Ryder
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 10, 2018 12:57:08 GMT
I think this post is actually very useful for this thread: link(Spoilers! EA didn't force anything)
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 10, 2018 16:15:32 GMT
But it really makes the player feel disconnected from their character, which is a deathblow for RPG games... I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. Yeah, well the handful of die hard fans on the bsn dont really matter, now do they? Im sure you feel just fine and dandy in your echo chamber of mediocrity, but BW follows the money. If you dont know what I'm talking about... you'll learn the hard way.
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 10, 2018 16:20:46 GMT
How does fast-paced combat make you feel disconnected from your character? If anything, pause-and-strategize does that. How does twitch style combat have ANYTHING to do with characterization? How does it have anything to do with RPG elements? Short answer for both: it doesn't.
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 10, 2018 16:24:53 GMT
I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. As did I and my Ryder Oh, you felt connected to your Ryder on the worst implementation of thr Mass Effect franchise? Good for you. The problem with that is, your one opinion doesnt matter when the rest of the fan base hated the game so much that it single handedly killed the entire franchise. You fan bois need to learn your blind love of these games doesnt do them any favors. Hold developers accountable or lose your games. BioWare could be the next Visceral very easily.
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 10, 2018 16:28:40 GMT
I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. Yeah, well the handful of die hard fans on the bsn dont really matter, now do they? Im sure you feel just fine and dandy in your echo chamber of mediocrity, but BW follows the money. If you dont know what I'm talking about... you'll learn the hard way. Yeah, they follow the money with DAI having their most sucessful launch and winning GOTY that year - what exactly do you think the market is telling them?
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 10, 2018 16:34:57 GMT
How does fast-paced combat make you feel disconnected from your character? If anything, pause-and-strategize does that. I don't mind fast paced combat in DA myself.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 10, 2018 17:31:50 GMT
I felt the connection to my Inquisitor just fine, thanks. Yeah, well the handful of die hard fans on the bsn dont really matter, now do they? Im sure you feel just fine and dandy in your echo chamber of mediocrity, but BW follows the money. If you dont know what I'm talking about... you'll learn the hard way. Yeah and that's the second time you insult a whole board because boohoo, we don't share your opinion. You do realise, that discussions among grownups don't work like this? You have an opinion, someone else has another opinion. If you want them to listen to your opinion, bring arguments not tantrum fits a la 'you are a handful of mediocre people with no clue' And I'm not counting the times, you insult single writers in a thread, like you just did with sjsharp
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 17:51:59 GMT
Yeah, well the handful of die hard fans on the bsn dont really matter, now do they? Im sure you feel just fine and dandy in your echo chamber of mediocrity, but BW follows the money. If you dont know what I'm talking about... you'll learn the hard way. Yeah and that's the second time you insult a whole board because boohoo, we don't share your opinion. You do realise, that discussions among grownups don't work like this? You have an opinion, someone else has another opinion. If you want them to listen to your opinion, bring arguments not tantrum fits a la 'you are a handful of mediocre people with no clue' And I'm not counting the times, you insult single writers in a thread, like you just did with sjsharp Indeed
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 17:58:38 GMT
Yeah, well the handful of die hard fans on the bsn dont really matter, now do they? Im sure you feel just fine and dandy in your echo chamber of mediocrity, but BW follows the money. If you dont know what I'm talking about... you'll learn the hard way. Yeah, they follow the money with DAI having their most sucessful launch and winning GOTY that year - what exactly do you think the market is telling them? Yeah exactly DAI was probably considered one of Bioware's best games granted MEA didn't turn out as well as it could have done and I admit that but I still find it to be thoroughly enjoyable. In fact almost through my 8th playthrough of it now.
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Post by tacsear on Feb 10, 2018 18:03:35 GMT
Yeah, they follow the money with DAI having their most sucessful launch and winning GOTY that year - what exactly do you think the market is telling them? Yeah exactly DAI was probably considered one of Bioware's best games granted MEA didn't turn out as well as it could have done and I admit that but I still find it to be thoroughly enjoyable. In fact almost through my 8th playthrough of it now. Not best, most successful
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Post by House Targaryen on Feb 10, 2018 18:09:54 GMT
Even though my game playing knowledge is some what limited since I generally stick with certain gaming companies and game series, I thought Frostbite did a good job with DAI. The thing I dislike about it is its so mod unfriendly. You don't have tons of mods like the Fallout games.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 18:10:06 GMT
Yeah exactly DAI was probably considered one of Bioware's best games granted MEA didn't turn out as well as it could have done and I admit that but I still find it to be thoroughly enjoyable. In fact almost through my 8th playthrough of it now. Not best, most successful Well it may not have been the best but it's certainly one of my favourite Bioware games so it's one of the best for me. The only games for me that beat it are ME2 and 3. I would say all 3 of them make up my top 3 games. Personally I'm grateful for them as they definitely help keep me occupied with the number of ways you can play them,.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 18:12:45 GMT
Even though my game playing knowledge is some what limited since I generally stick with certain gaming companies and game series, I thought Frostbite did a good job with DAI. The thing I dislike about it is its so mod unfriendly. You don't have tons of mods like the Fallout games. I don't know about that as I've found Fallout more difficult than DAI tbh. But then I'm not great at modding and don't play Fallout much and only have Fallout 4
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 10, 2018 18:17:37 GMT
Even though my game playing knowledge is some what limited since I generally stick with certain gaming companies and game series, I thought Frostbite did a good job with DAI. The thing I dislike about it is its so mod unfriendly. You don't have tons of mods like the Fallout games. Honestly, the only way I see EA investing the large amount of resources required to make the Frostbyte engine mod friendly is if they bring The Sims franchise over to it (I think the only games currently not on Frostbyte are The Sims 4 and SWTOR), as that's really their only franchise that has a history of being very moddable and built a giant community around it. And I don't think they are planning on bring out a new Sims base game anytime soon, nor do I know if it's really possible to easily do that kind of game on Frostbyte.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 10, 2018 18:36:48 GMT
Even though my game playing knowledge is some what limited since I generally stick with certain gaming companies and game series, I thought Frostbite did a good job with DAI. The thing I dislike about it is its so mod unfriendly. You don't have tons of mods like the Fallout games. Honestly, the only way I see EA investing the large amount of resources required to make the Frostbyte engine mod friendly is if they bring The Sims franchise over to it (I think the only games currently not on Frostbyte are The Sims 4 and SWTOR), as that's really their only franchise that has a history of being very moddable and built a giant community around it. And I don't think they are planning on bring out a new Sims base game anytime soon, nor do I know if it's really possible to easily do that kind of game on Frostbyte. Yeah I'm not suer they would as I don't think the engine is built for that kind of game whereas at least in Bioware's case it was moer of modding it's action oriented elements in with their RPG progression systems would have been a bit easier because the engine was built for action oriented games anyway. Also to a point both DA and ME are both action oriented I always thought that ME would work well on the engine if done right which for me at least I think they have. Perhaps not as well as they could have done but for me they pulled it off and with DAI they managed a better job than I thought they were going to do because for me I thought if either series was going to have difficulties with Frostbite it would be DA mostly because DA is a more hack and slash style RPG and not a shooter whereas ME had that so in truth should have been easier.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 10, 2018 18:50:03 GMT
Oh, you felt connected to your Ryder on the worst implementation of thr Mass Effect franchise? Good for you. The problem with that is, your one opinion doesnt matter when the rest of the fan base hated the game so much that it single handedly killed the entire franchise. You fan bois need to learn your blind love of these games doesnt do them any favors. Hold developers accountable or lose your games. BioWare could be the next Visceral very easily. how do you propose people hold bioware accountable?
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Post by fylimar on Feb 10, 2018 19:04:39 GMT
colfoley: Great avatar, I love Lorca and hope, he will be back. I'm one or two episodes behind, so no spoilers please, if he already is back Abot Frostbite and mods: it's getting better. There are now two mod tools for DAI: mod manager and Frosty mod manager - and the last one is said to work well with the DLCs too. People who used Frosty with Trespasser said, it worked well. I will try it out, when I do Trespasser the next time. You can use both tools simutaneously, there are no conflicts.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 10, 2018 19:10:08 GMT
colfoley: Great avatar, I love Lorca and hope, he will be back. I'm one or two episodes behind, so no spoilers please, if he already is back Abot Frostbite and mods: it's getting better. There are now two mod tools for DAI: mod manager and Frosty mod manager - and the last one is said to work well with the DLCs too. People who used Frosty with Trespasser said, it worked well. I will try it out, when I do Trespasser the next time. You can use both tools simutaneously, there are no conflicts. actually I was thinking of changing it given recent events just not sure to what.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 10, 2018 19:10:49 GMT
Oh, you felt connected to your Ryder on the worst implementation of thr Mass Effect franchise? Good for you. The problem with that is, your one opinion doesnt matter when the rest of the fan base hated the game so much that it single handedly killed the entire franchise. You fan bois need to learn your blind love of these games doesnt do them any favors. Hold developers accountable or lose your games. BioWare could be the next Visceral very easily. how do you propose people hold bioware accountable? It seems his mission is FUD fueled or just badly failing trolling..
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Post by fylimar on Feb 10, 2018 19:19:20 GMT
colfoley : Great avatar, I love Lorca and hope, he will be back. I'm one or two episodes behind, so no spoilers please, if he already is back Abot Frostbite and mods: it's getting better. There are now two mod tools for DAI: mod manager and Frosty mod manager - and the last one is said to work well with the DLCs too. People who used Frosty with Trespasser said, it worked well. I will try it out, when I do Trespasser the next time. You can use both tools simutaneously, there are no conflicts. actually I was thinking of changing it given recent events just not sure to what. Don't change - at least he is played by Jason Isaacs, who can't do any wrong imo. And it is a well written character
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