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Post by biggydx on Jul 16, 2018 18:40:28 GMT
First and foremost, the most realistic answer will probably be "Unsure" since none of us have the game in our hands, though some will still predict that the game will fall on either side. Anthem, for those who pay attention to gaming news, is a fairly controversial game for a number of reasons:
1) It doesn't have some of Bioware's more notable features, like offline-play, romances, and companions 2) It's being published by EA, which has undoubtedly garnered a lot of animosity recently 3) People are still upset with Bioware after what became of Mass Effect: Andromeda. In fact, some look at Anthem as to why Andromeda was so poorly made 4) Given that Anthem has mechanics similar to other games in the shared-world genre, games that have not fared well in the public eye upon release, some tend to believe Anthem is going to follow suit in their shortcomings.
To put it bluntly, there's a vocal crowd that believes Anthem has strayed so far from old-school Bioware, or that it emulates other games so much, that it deserves to fail. So I'm posing this question to everyone here because I want to get your opinion on the game. At the very least, there's likely a good portion of people who are interested in the game, but still remain skeptical of how well it will perform. We still don't know many of the different aspects associated with Anthem, such as the core narrative elements, the loot system, activities in the world, etc. While this lack of information has some people anxious to see more, it also makes others uneasy and fearful of the fact that so much information is being withheld.
Based on playtests from individuals on YouTube and various video game media companies (like Gamespot and Gameinformer), the recent demo showcased at E3 was considered to be an enjoyable experience that plays better than it looks. A few of these individuals (such as IGN"s Destin Legarie) were also able to play a much earlier build of Anthem (prior to E3 2018) and said that that version of the game was fairly clunky, indicating Bioware has made strides in making the game a more fluid game to play.
If you want my own personal opinion, I'm cautiously optimistic. There's a great deal of skepticism that goes along with that optimism, and I don't see myself getting this game the day it comes out (maybe a week or two after release). A game such as this probably needs to be given at least 3 to 4 weeks so that it's clear whether or not it has enough going for it to bolster its longevity. I tried to avoid being biased in the making of this thread/poll, but if you see any issues let me know.
For clarity regarding item 3 on that list I made, there was reporting done by Kotaku's Jason Schreier that the Andromeda team was short staffed. Some of these staff members were plucked from the team in order to work on Anthem, hence why some will use the phrase, "Andromeda died because of this game".
EDIT: I guess I should give my thoughts. I personally think the game will generally do well, and I hope it succeeds.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 16, 2018 19:56:02 GMT
there's a vocal crowd that believes Anthem has strayed so far from old-school Bioware, or that it emulates other games so much, that it deserves to fail True, but in poll after poll I've seen, that's a small minority (if a noisy one). Free speech and all, it's a view that can be shared of course, but it's not the direction of traffic from what I can see.
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Post by warden on Jul 16, 2018 20:01:08 GMT
it won't fail, casual gamers love this games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 20:11:37 GMT
I can't get the enthusiasm for Anthem either way. Though it's unlikely to bomb.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jul 16, 2018 20:31:03 GMT
Pretty sure this is just going to echo chamber the Skepticism thread.
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Post by lennybusker on Jul 16, 2018 21:21:19 GMT
A game such as this probably needs to be given at least 3 to 4 weeks so that it's clear whether or not it has enough going for it to bolster its longevity. Yup. Just as a reminder, Destiny 2's cracks didn't really show until 3-4 weeks into the game (playing at a normal pace).
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Post by biggydx on Jul 16, 2018 21:36:28 GMT
A game such as this probably needs to be given at least 3 to 4 weeks so that it's clear whether or not it has enough going for it to bolster its longevity. Yup. Just as a reminder, Destiny 2's cracks didn't really show until 3-4 weeks into the game (playing at a normal pace). Yeah. There were some early warning signs that I didn't like even before the game released. No Primary - Special - Heavy weapon loadout 4v4 across all modes Then when me and my buds started playing it, I took issue with the lack of vendors, earnable cosmetics, and Heroic strikes missing. Plus shaders were no longer permanent, and needed to be paid for. I think it all culminated when me and my group got through the Leviathan raid and didn't see one single piece of raid gear providing any unique perks, and PvP just being a borefest of teamshotting. By late October, I think most of the people I played with (including myself) stopped playing Destiny 2 for quite some time. Recently, with this new season, I come back from time to time to play here and there. The summer is normally a videogame drought, and I don't have much that interests me. It's come a long a bit, but I honestly don't think Destiny 2 will start to feel like its made significant improvements upon itself until Year 3 comes. Forsaken looks to get us back to where we should, with a few extra bells and whistles. Though I may be in the minority on this, if Destiny 3 is indeed in the works, that game needs at least 4 years of development time. Hell, I say once Year 3 of Destiny 2 is up, just stop updating the game and have everyone focus on Destiny 3. One thing I was able to appreciate about Destiny 2 being in the slump its in, was that I was able to devote more time to playing other games I really enjoyed (Nier, HZD, MHW, Assassins Creed: Origins, etc). So if there's downtime with Destiny content, I don't mind.
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Post by correctamundo on Jul 16, 2018 21:49:27 GMT
Don't worry. It will be grand.
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Post by Shinobu on Jul 16, 2018 23:50:57 GMT
What the...?
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 17, 2018 2:50:40 GMT
One thing I have been hearing more and more often over the last few years is that what players are "saying" doesn't hold up true when it comes to sales and that is what EA cares about. Its why they took this type of design for a game since it has been in development since before Destiny 1 launched.
Even if there are people that really believe those comments, my response to them is things change. I bet if BioWare stayed true to what they want in a game they would have been closed already because the budget doesn't match up with sales numbers. Its why things like point and click adventure games are only seeing a resurgence in the Indie/Crowd-Funded market because there aren't the number of players as interested in them as in the past or the numbers of copies sold doesn't match up with the budget required to make it look how gamers want.
Going back to an old post by AskAGameDev, only 5% of the people who buy games actively post about them and only another 15% that will go online and read about games. So there are 95% of the people not talking about how they feel about Anthem or BioWare games in general. I remember with Mass Effect 1 there was a lot of people for the time upset that BioWare was going into scaled down RPG mechanics with the game and how that was a betrayal to players, there was even discourse over Jade Empire and how it was such a dramatic change too. Even on these forums it sounds like there is a very large number of people that don't have an account so they are just reading and looking at all the silly comments I make on a regular basis. The internet seems to think it knows everything that is going on because reasons, but in reality they are just making wild guesses to what might or might not be happening and sometimes they are right and others they are wrong.
So no, I doubt Anthem will crash and burn for it is going for the active part of gaming right now and there can be more interest in a game then what people are claiming especially if BioWare can keep the game from having too many issues and including some of their normal touches.
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Post by simit on Jul 17, 2018 3:13:54 GMT
I put no it shouldn't, but it easily could, there good noises coming out warframe with FREE updates of content an planned content then Division 2 launches a couple of weeks after Anthem an the devs there are saying all the right things about end game etc etc so honestly? Anthem needs to launch strong with minimum server issues an they better hope to have engaging combat ppl want to repeat aswell as a good endgame or tbh in this day an age ppl will dump it fast.
I hope it succeeds and i look forward to hands on since i definitely will buy, sticking around may be another story
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Post by Steelcan on Jul 17, 2018 4:19:47 GMT
I hope it crashes and burns and finally puts BioWare out of its misery
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Post by Pearl on Jul 17, 2018 6:15:06 GMT
It won't. Much like Destiny 2, Anthem will be the video game equivalent of too big to fail.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jul 17, 2018 7:28:56 GMT
I hope it is the most critically accalimed game Bioware ever made, just to spite people who make topics like these.
The vocal minority you claim to be so grand is on the left hand side of the IQ normalised distribution anyway. Nobody of matter cares.
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Post by helios969 on Jul 17, 2018 9:56:00 GMT
To put it bluntly, there's a vocal crowd that believes Anthem has strayed so far from old-school Bioware, or that it emulates other games so much, that it deserves to fail. A vocal minority to be sure...too much credence is given to those few simply because they cry the loudest. And to answer this thread, no. Anthem with succeed or fail for what it is..."traditional" Bioware fans will have a negligible impact.
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Post by Fredward on Jul 17, 2018 10:11:21 GMT
Really don't get why you'd invest the emotional energy into hoping for someone or something to fail that has no meaningful/life changing ramifications in success (a game does well in a genre you don't like) and would (potentially anyway) have tangible negative impact on people if it failed (people lose their jobs). What's the motivation there? Spite? Weirdly petty mindset to go through life with.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 17, 2018 12:17:09 GMT
Really don't get why you'd invest the emotional energy into hoping for someone or something to fail that has no meaningful/life changing ramifications in success (a game does well in a genre you don't like) and would (potentially anyway) have tangible negative impact on people if it failed (people lose their jobs). What's the motivation there? Spite? Weirdly petty mindset to go through life with. Yea, I don't get it neither. Do people get a kick from their hatefest? Maybe it's a way of attention whoring?
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Post by simit on Jul 17, 2018 12:26:07 GMT
Even if i dont like it i hope its successful tbh
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 17, 2018 12:49:58 GMT
Really don't get why you'd invest the emotional energy into hoping for someone or something to fail that has no meaningful/life changing ramifications in success (a game does well in a genre you don't like) and would (potentially anyway) have tangible negative impact on people if it failed (people lose their jobs). What's the motivation there? Spite? Weirdly petty mindset to go through life with. Yea, I don't get it neither. Do people get a kick from their hatefest? Maybe it's a way of attention whoring? At times I am wondering if it is a perpetual cycle. It seems BioWare gets a lot of hate, but at the same time internet "reporting" focuses on everything negative about BioWare so that feeds the online negativity because they want clicks. I semi-joked about the departure of a BioWare employee and how my YouTube videos there would be the other day and only a few hours after he left I had multiple items in my YouTube feed about it. While other developers have a lot of departures or completely shutdown and don't nearly get the same level of coverage.
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Post by simit on Jul 17, 2018 13:31:58 GMT
Yeah i see Yong did another clickbait video on the departure of the BioWare dev who left after 22 year lol
Guess there no yongyeah without EA
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 17, 2018 13:32:56 GMT
Yea, I don't get it neither. Do people get a kick from their hatefest? Maybe it's a way of attention whoring? At times I am wondering if it is a perpetual cycle. It seems BioWare gets a lot of hate, but at the same time internet "reporting" focuses on everything negative about BioWare so that feeds the online negativity because they want clicks. I semi-joked about the departure of a BioWare employee and how my YouTube videos there would be the other day and only a few hours after he left I had multiple items in my YouTube feed about it. While other developers have a lot of departures or completely shutdown and don't nearly get the same level of coverage. There is some clickbait income involved, I believe. I guess drama generates more views than rainbow wonderlands.
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Post by biggydx on Jul 17, 2018 14:41:19 GMT
Really don't get why you'd invest the emotional energy into hoping for someone or something to fail that has no meaningful/life changing ramifications in success (a game does well in a genre you don't like) and would (potentially anyway) have tangible negative impact on people if it failed (people lose their jobs). What's the motivation there? Spite? Weirdly petty mindset to go through life with. I honestly think part of it boils down to people wanting to get revenge on EA for what they've done in recent years, while the other part of it is revenge for what happened to Andromeda and the ME3 Ending. Personally, for as much as I get Andromeda turned out to be a mediocre game, people need to stop acting as if AAA developers can't make a piss-poor game from time to time. Hell, based on metacritic scores, this is the only Bioware game that's dropped below an 80% (and no, I don't want to count Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood). If people really want to see how badly a AAA game can get, just look at what happened when Square Enix originally release FFXIV. The game got absolutely tarnished, had support dropped, and was pulled from store shelves. Admittedly, they went back to the drawing board and made another version that turned into a much better MMO.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 17, 2018 14:47:19 GMT
Really don't get why you'd invest the emotional energy into hoping for someone or something to fail that has no meaningful/life changing ramifications in success (a game does well in a genre you don't like) and would (potentially anyway) have tangible negative impact on people if it failed (people lose their jobs). What's the motivation there? Spite? Weirdly petty mindset to go through life with. I honestly think part of it boils down to people wanting to get revenge on EA for what they've done in recent years, while the other part of it is revenge for what happened to Andromeda and the ME3 Ending. Personally, for as much as I get Andromeda turned out to be a mediocre game, people need to stop acting as if AAA developers can't make a piss-poor game from time to time. Hell, based on metacritic scores, this is the only Bioware game that's dropped below an 80% (and no, I don't want to count Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood). If people really want to see how badly a AAA game can get, just look at what happened when Square Enix originally release FFXIV. The game got absolutely tarnished, had support dropped, and was pulled from store shelves. Admittedly, they went back to the drawing board and made another version that turned into a much better MMO. I don't understand the whole revenge on EA angle some people have for the simple fact EA doesn't act alone when it comes to making money first decisions. People keep bringing up Westwood Studios, but they were already on the decline when EA bought them so they probably took the EA cash because they saw that they were doomed already. If the reason is things like Battlefront 2 they should look at other publishers again as well with Take-Two and GTAV or Activision and how they are handling DLC for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4. I am not saying places don't talk about it, but rarely do I see dozens of videos all pop up at the same time about those issues or the amount of revisiting of them either. People need to grow up and see EA isn't the only publisher doing things like this and admit that they are all guilty of it. Even Bethesda has done things that anger me such as how they increased the price of their Season Pass, but gave people a months warning so they would go out and buy it at a "discount" while the content of that DLC package was questionable with only having two story based DLC.
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