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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 22, 2019 23:14:27 GMT
Mass Effect Andromeda is tied for my favorite Mass Effect game with Mass Effect 1. I think both are light years better than ME2 or ME3. I would love nothing more than a Mass Effect Andromeda 2. I loved the crew, the Ryder's, the story, the little hints at future awesomeness in the story, the Kett, the Angara, the Jaardan etc.
I'm just not sure I have faith in Bioware to do it justice at this point. They already kind of pulled a cut and run.
Whenever I think about Mass Effect and Dragon Age I get kind of depressed and just want the franchises to end. Not because I don't love them, but because maybe a mercy killing at this point is better than a slow agonizing torturous death by the indifference of Bioware and EA.
I just don't feel abandoning them would be fair to either of the franchises even a doing bad job like asy ME3's ending would be better than say doing nothing at all. Not saying they should do a bad job but at least make an effort to try and finish what you started. You'er never going to please everyone anyway but at least this way those that enjoyed the stories will at least see a conclusion to them if you do it. Because there's no point in telling half the story and scrapping the rest o reven putting it in a book like the Quarian Ark just because you're hearts not in it any more. Because what was the original point in releasing those initial games in the first place if they're not going to finish them? Besides as they've said neither series is dead so that means there is more to come in both series it's just a matter of what form they will take. Hopefully more great SP experiences like the previous games.
I think if Anthem and DA4 both do well then BioWare (assuming EA doesn't close them down before then) will come back to ME, as a franchise it's made them too much money to scrap it now.
As far as the Quarian Ark as DLC I don't think it would've worked as DLC or even an Expansion (like DAO: Awakening) as least TO ME.
IMHO it always felt like a tease for a sequel saying that more is coming. The Benefactor/Garson's Death and maybe Advent, (the other outpost/city on Eos) would've been better options for DLC. The Quarian Ark is IMHO too big to be a DLC and should be part of a full game.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 23, 2019 4:55:46 GMT
Out of curiosity which two would you lose?
For Fem Shepard it would be Jacob, he's basically Kaiden 2.0 with a shitty father.
For Male Shepard it would be Jack. I think there are too many biotic romances in the ME games and she's crazy and to paraphrase someone once said: "Never sleep with a person crazier than yourself." Also it never felt like a healthy relationship.
If BioWare cared what I had to say, I would say going back to the approach of Mass Effect 1 or Dragon Age 2 might work out better as long as people can see there was more work elsewhere in the game. I know there are dedicated people to the relationships in a BioWare game, but in this day and age I think its harming the other areas now. While removing any of the characters that have extreme body types that have to be accounted for such as Krogan or Angara where they might have to spend a lot more time making sure that there isn't animation issues.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 23, 2019 16:29:55 GMT
I wish I could get a remaster for all of Mass Effect and Dragon Age so I can finally be free of my PS3.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 23, 2019 17:57:59 GMT
I wish I could get a remaster for all of Mass Effect and Dragon Age so I can finally be free of my PS3. That's a good excuse. Hint, hint Bioware/EA. I doubt I would get rid of my ps3 even with a remaster.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 25, 2019 20:23:33 GMT
I think a remaster is the best thing BW can do to generate hype for ME. If they release an Andromeda 2 with ryder straight out the gate, consumers will be very wary, and I think that would be more costly for BW overall. I know many people here love Andromeda, but the fact is the game was bashed and memed like crazy. People are still making videos, almost 2 years later, on youtube on just how bad Andromeda was. I personally don't think an Andromeda 2 will generate hype, or sells. If not a remaster, BW has to do something new again.
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 25, 2019 20:32:01 GMT
I would say the only game that really needs a remaster is ME1. I love it, but by modern standards it is quite dated. Even then it doesn't look that bad. I have been playing it concurrently with MEA over the past week. In some ways it's presentation surpasses MEAs
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jan 25, 2019 23:30:27 GMT
FUCK. THOSE. YOUTUBE & SOCIAL MEDIA. IDIOTS.
BioWare worked and works best when they didn't/don't listen to any of the shit gargling fuckwits on Youtube and social media, because listening to those useless shitheads, who will NEVER like a BioWare game no matter how good it is really is, for any reasons, if wasn't the animation errors (for the record: those errors were over blown), the so-called "poor writing" (for the record: that is subjective), or how "the SJWs ruined the game" (which again for the record: BioWare has always politics in their games and they tend to lead to the left of the political spectrum), they would have found something to bitch about.
Listening to those morons is how and why 99% of gaming sucks now of days, and frankly listening to ill-informed twits on social media will NEVER lead to any good piece of not only games but all media in general.
You dont know how much I love this post.
Glad you love it.
You don't know how long I've been waiting to post something like that. That has been boiling up inside of me for YEARS and I needed to get it of my system.
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Post by sassafrassa on Jan 26, 2019 3:51:01 GMT
I would say the only game that really needs a remaster is ME1. I love it, but by modern standards it is quite dated. Even then it doesn't look that bad. I have been playing it concurrently with MEA over the past week. In some ways it's presentation surpasses MEAs Well I mainly mean the mechanics. ME1 has no location based damage. Simpler ragdolls. Really just one set of armor for humans/asari/batarians only reskinned for each brand. All of that could use some tweaking. In a remake I'd also consider backporting ME3's weapon selection where appropriate, and overall combat mechanics. Or at import ME2's instead.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 26, 2019 5:19:12 GMT
Even then it doesn't look that bad. I have been playing it concurrently with MEA over the past week. In some ways it's presentation surpasses MEAs Well I mainly mean the mechanics. ME1 has no location based damage. Simpler ragdolls. Really just one set of armor for humans/asari/batarians only reskinned for each brand. All of that could use some tweaking. In a remake I'd also consider backporting ME3's weapon selection where appropriate, and overall combat mechanics. Or at import ME2's instead. Oh ok yeah. I was thinking about visuals and presentation. Yeah I agree with you about the mechanics ME 1 feels sloppy mechanically compared to the latter games in the series.
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 26, 2019 5:43:02 GMT
Well I mainly mean the mechanics. ME1 has no location based damage. Simpler ragdolls. Really just one set of armor for humans/asari/batarians only reskinned for each brand. All of that could use some tweaking. In a remake I'd also consider backporting ME3's weapon selection where appropriate, and overall combat mechanics. Or at import ME2's instead. Oh ok yeah. I was thinking about visuals and presentation. Yeah I agree with you about the mechanics ME 1 feels sloppy mechanically compared to the latter games in the series. all of that veers farther into remake territory as opposed to remaster. I think a remaster with better graphics and the like is possible, but a full on remake with ported mechanics? Lord knows I'd love it, but I don't really see it on the horizon.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 26, 2019 18:03:47 GMT
Oh ok yeah. I was thinking about visuals and presentation. Yeah I agree with you about the mechanics ME 1 feels sloppy mechanically compared to the latter games in the series. all of that veers farther into remake territory as opposed to remaster. I think a remaster with better graphics and the like is possible, but a full on remake with ported mechanics? Lord knows I'd love it, but I don't really see it on the horizon. Yeah usually remasters are cosmetic and cosmetically the trilogy is fine.
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Post by degs29 on Jan 28, 2019 18:30:32 GMT
If they ever hope to make another Mass Effect without being bogged down by ruinous amounts of negativity, remastering the original trilogy would be the smart thing to do. Maybe the ONLY thing to do. Yeah, because the Shepard Trilogy never had ruinous amounts of negativity. That's certainly where the negativity started, mostly with regards to ME3's ending. Even in waiting five years to release Andromeda, some of that negativity lingered. And, unfortunately, them blowing it with Andromeda just stoked the flames, making the next installment even more likely to face negativity right out of the gate.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2019 20:39:08 GMT
Yeah, because the Shepard Trilogy never had ruinous amounts of negativity. That's certainly where the negativity started, mostly with regards to ME3's ending. Even in waiting five years to release Andromeda, some of that negativity lingered. And, unfortunately, them blowing it with Andromeda just stoked the flames, making the next installment even more likely to face negativity right out of the gate. Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better.
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Post by degs29 on Jan 29, 2019 0:02:06 GMT
That's certainly where the negativity started, mostly with regards to ME3's ending. Even in waiting five years to release Andromeda, some of that negativity lingered. And, unfortunately, them blowing it with Andromeda just stoked the flames, making the next installment even more likely to face negativity right out of the gate. Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. I wonder how much the memory of the Extended Cut influenced EA's decision with regards to Andromeda DLC. They probably saw that they dumped money into trying to "fix" their mess, and didn't really get much from it, so just said "screw that" with Andromeda.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 29, 2019 0:22:36 GMT
Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. I wonder how much the memory of the Extended Cut influenced EA's decision with regards to Andromeda DLC. They probably saw that they dumped money into trying to "fix" their mess, and didn't really get much from it, so just said "screw that" with Andromeda. How did the dlc sales go for me3 and MP transactions. It is distinctly possible the fix helped quite a bit. Internet uproar is usually 5 dudes bitching, 500 dudes responding to the bitching and 500000 people commenting on the responding. Basically without the numbers we don’t know how much it was an effect and how much was just noise. the lack of dlc probably effected my opinion of the game. ME2 was okay nothing special for me at launch. Post dlc it’s one of my favorite games. Me3 post dlc like leviathan and omega I liked it a lot more. Me-1 I loved out of the gate but bringing down the sky was a big add and made me love it more.
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Post by Yermogi on Jan 29, 2019 1:19:39 GMT
I'll say it. I'll be the one who says it. I will never play the original Mass Effect series again until they fix the goddamn endings. Which they will never do. I uninstalled all three games after playing through the third game, and I have no intention of installing them again.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2019 1:47:44 GMT
Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. I wonder how much the memory of the Extended Cut influenced EA's decision with regards to Andromeda DLC. They probably saw that they dumped money into trying to "fix" their mess, and didn't really get much from it, so just said "screw that" with Andromeda. Even so, wasn't Citadel DLC generally well-received? I wasn't thinking so much about "fixing" the game so much as adding additional content that some of the disgruntled people might like.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2019 1:54:53 GMT
the lack of dlc probably effected my opinion of the game. ME2 was okay nothing special for me at launch. Post dlc it’s one of my favorite games. Me3 post dlc like leviathan and omega I liked it a lot more. Me-1 I loved out of the gate but bringing down the sky was a big add and made me love it more. Agreed in general, though ME2 is not my favorite of the trilogy. Not a bad game by any means. I have to say the SM was my favorite part of it, not to mention watching Miranda getting all emotional over Oriana. And, man, I love when Miranda quits at the end of the SM (assuming she survives and Shepard destroys the Collector Base). Leviathan was outstanding. Admittedly, I bought all three games four years after ME3 was released but I can still see what works. I'll say it. I'll be the one who says it. I will never play the original Mass Effect series again until they fix the goddamn endings. Which they will never do. I uninstalled all three games after playing through the third game, and I have no intention of installing them again. Sorry to hear. The MET is my favorite gaming series ever. Besides, I always choose Red so it doesn't matter to me what other options exist. Then again, I mod the Starbrat out, so I suppose you could say I also have a level of dislike for the endings.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 29, 2019 2:39:41 GMT
Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. I wonder how much the memory of the Extended Cut influenced EA's decision with regards to Andromeda DLC. They probably saw that they dumped money into trying to "fix" their mess, and didn't really get much from it, so just said "screw that" with Andromeda. I think it had more to do with timelines then anything else. They spent six months or so working on patching Andromeda and to release DLC after that point probably going by past experiences with DLC sales realized there wasn't enough people still playing the game to be interested in buying the DLC. Its one of the reasons when DLC started most games stopped getting expansions for the first three months is the biggest seller for the game and DLC and then the sixth month mark. Even content that is labeled as an expansion now seems to be a slightly longer DLC, but misses a lot of what used to be in an expansion.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 29, 2019 3:07:44 GMT
That's certainly where the negativity started, mostly with regards to ME3's ending. Even in waiting five years to release Andromeda, some of that negativity lingered. And, unfortunately, them blowing it with Andromeda just stoked the flames, making the next installment even more likely to face negativity right out of the gate. Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. That is what burned me. I found MEA to be fun game even with it's flaws but that lack of closure and overall incomplete feeling that game gives me taints the overall experience for me.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 29, 2019 15:36:34 GMT
Which means we need a finished product out of the gate and a promise of DLC. The lack of it certainly hurt MEA even more, showing that BW had abandoned the game rather than try to expand on it with content that others might like better. That is what burned me. I found MEA to be fun game even with it's flaws but that lack of closure and overall incomplete feeling that game gives me taints the overall experience for me. Yeah it’s one thing to tease a second game. It’s another to not give closure. I kind of felt the same way in me2 with lair of the shadow broker. You meet liara and they beat you over the head with those hints and then you just hack a few terminals for her/the end. I think they handled the intro to that dlc poorly though. Hey Cerberus found it lets go...
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 29, 2019 18:46:12 GMT
That is what burned me. I found MEA to be fun game even with it's flaws but that lack of closure and overall incomplete feeling that game gives me taints the overall experience for me. Yeah it’s one thing to tease a second game. It’s another to not give closure. I kind of felt the same way in me2 with lair of the shadow broker. You meet liara and they beat you over the head with those hints and then you just hack a few terminals for her/the end. I think they handled the intro to that dlc poorly though. Hey Cerberus found it lets go... Difference is ME2 actually followed up with it and didnt leave us hanging and we got that thread resolved with LOTSB. Actually in game DLC and not a book.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 29, 2019 19:05:14 GMT
Yeah it’s one thing to tease a second game. It’s another to not give closure. I kind of felt the same way in me2 with lair of the shadow broker. You meet liara and they beat you over the head with those hints and then you just hack a few terminals for her/the end. I think they handled the intro to that dlc poorly though. Hey Cerberus found it lets go... Difference is ME2 actually followed up with it and didnt leave us hanging and we got that thread resolved with LOTSB. Actually in game DLC and not a book. Yup. I’ve said it before but me2 was very meh for me until the dlcs cane out and now it’s one of my favorite games. MEA is meh for me and will remain meh because they never followed through on adding dlc. It’s got solid gameplay and can be fun but they didn’t flesh out the story enough to be memorable or good.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 29, 2019 19:19:34 GMT
Yeah it’s one thing to tease a second game. It’s another to not give closure. I kind of felt the same way in me2 with lair of the shadow broker. You meet liara and they beat you over the head with those hints and then you just hack a few terminals for her/the end. I think they handled the intro to that dlc poorly though. Hey Cerberus found it lets go... Difference is ME2 actually followed up with it and didnt leave us hanging and we got that thread resolved with LOTSB. Actually in game DLC and not a book. At least the book was good unlike the DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:41:38 GMT
I'll say it. I'll be the one who says it. I will never play the original Mass Effect series again until they fix the goddamn endings. Which they will never do. I uninstalled all three games after playing through the third game, and I have no intention of installing them again. Your problem and loss then. You literally wasted your money on three games just because you don't like the last 10 minutes of just one of those three games. I see no reason why I or Bioware should care that you're so unreasonable that you'd insist on continuing to deprive yourself of at least 2 of those games that you must have enjoyed enough the first time you played them to have even considered buying the third. They already got your money and you've already shown your hand that if everything isn't absolutely perfectly to your tastes and liking, you're the sort of person whose very willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Addendum: I very much like Andromeda. If they never finish that story, I'll be very disappointed that they didn't finish it. If they finish the story in a manner I don't like, I'll be disappointed with that, sure. Will it make me like ME:A any less, though? The answer is no. I'll still enjoy playing it for the same reasons I enjoy playing it today. If they finish the story in a way that intrigues me more, then I'll likely enjoy ME:A even more.
The same should apply to the Trilogy, only more so. ME2 is a standalone game with a GREAT ending. It does not have to be connected in any way to ME1 or ME3 to be a great game with a mulitude of different endings. The Suicide Mission was a truly genius way to end that game. I simply will never, never understand why people who don't like the ME3 endings would even suggest that it ruins the experience of the entire 3-game trilogy for them unless Bioware "fixes" ME3's endings. They are simply being unreasonable.
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