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Post by slimgrin727 on Feb 22, 2019 6:42:45 GMT
From the start I've thought Frostbyte was the death of Mass Effect, not EA, not ME3 ending, and certainly not "SJW"... The only wrinkle is DAI came out fine, at least in imo. No, they struggled to fit that game in Frostbyte. Said so themselves. Whatever the case, the engine isn't helping them make better games. RED engine does many things far better, so does Unreal 4 and Unity. But for some reason, Bioware claims that sticking with Frostbyte this whole time has been worth it. My question is: wtf advantage does it have?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 22, 2019 6:44:51 GMT
Ouch. I had no intention of playing the game as MP FPS type games arent my thing but I was hoping it would be a success. If the main issue is content then hopefully they can add new missions and create greater diversity. I just dont want bad reviews of thr game to negatively impact DA or a potential return to ME. I sometimes wonder if there is something that generates harsher criticism of bioware products than other companies. I really enjoyed MEA and didnt agree with much of the criicism... The question is, do you want this Bioware to be involved in a new Mass Effect? Whether you personally liked Andromeda or not, you have to admit that the game was not a critical success on the level of the trilogy, and now Anthem is underperforming as well. Mass Effect is my favorite series of all time, but I'd just as soon have it be done forever than be tarnished even further. Not directed at me but yes I do want this BioWare involved in a new Mass Effect.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2019 6:46:21 GMT
The only wrinkle is DAI came out fine, at least in imo. No, they struggled to fit that game in Frostbyte. Said so themselves. Whatever the case, the engine isn't helping them make better games. RED engine does many things far better, so does Unreal 4 and Unity. But for some reason, Bioware claims that sticking with Frostbyte this whole time has been worth it. My question is: wtf advantage does it have? In house engines are cheaper, whether that makes up for extra labor costs of trying to make it work and reduced quality of the end product I don't know.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 22, 2019 6:56:44 GMT
- Deep pool padded with useless, feel-bad crap like harvest bonus - At the mercy of pure rng with literally astronomical odds to get what you're aiming for, no general path to success - Inscription values have far too much variance - Useless perks in roll pool, such as acid damage on Storm gear Could go on, but these individually have caused entire player bases to revolt. And that's just inscriptions. I really dig getting +LMG damage and +Grenade Launcher damage on my masterwork assault rifles. Coming soon, pay 5000 tokens to unlock the mystical 3rd weapon loadout. Preach! I got 4 MW weapons and they have just 1 or 2 stats at best that are of some use. Just got a LMG with useless 4 stats. But it's with 110% gun and melee damage for 5 seconds if you shoot an enemy at point blank. I am tempted to give the Interceptor a spin with that gun 😀
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Post by saandrig on Feb 22, 2019 7:12:16 GMT
hm... I'm not a fanboy of this game but in all fairness, reviews ought to be based on after the official launched games.
EA with their Premier Access, Early Access and crap access contributed to the loew score, imo.
Trust me, the "launched" game now is no different than what we had in the last week. The patch fixed some things, broke some things and left others unchanged. The countdown clock for teleport seems to actually be worse now. The infinite loading screen is back.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 22, 2019 7:33:47 GMT
The Guardian - 40 (2/5 stars) Even where it is strongest, Anthem rarely stretches beyond the derivative. The combat, while well-designed, is little more than Gears of War with jetpacks, and narratively it veers between inconsequential and downright irritating. This anthem is, sadly, a tedious and conservative dirge that we’ve all heard before www.theguardian.com/games/2019/feb/22/anthem-review-bioware
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Post by Hier0phant on Feb 22, 2019 7:55:40 GMT
Yeah. The kicker here is that thanks to DS3 not meeting EA's expectations the franchise ended on a cliffhanger whereas the Dragon Age franchise could potentially suffer the same fate, and that will sting worse than Visceral's closure.
Agreed, if the studio makes it a looter shooter.
Stop giving EA ideas.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 22, 2019 8:04:16 GMT
It is getting really low right now...
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Post by ZaudStorm™ on Feb 22, 2019 8:12:11 GMT
Is anybody even surprised? BioWare deviated from their strong point - RPGs and instead went for a Third Person Destiny-esque always online shooter. Don't forget that you can't play this game if your online subscription expires on consoles, even if you just wanna play the story.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 22, 2019 8:23:28 GMT
The Guardian - 40 (2/5 stars) Even where it is strongest, Anthem rarely stretches beyond the derivative. The combat, while well-designed, is little more than Gears of War with jetpacks, and narratively it veers between inconsequential and downright irritating. This anthem is, sadly, a tedious and conservative dirge that we’ve all heard before www.theguardian.com/games/2019/feb/22/anthem-review-biowareOuch.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 22, 2019 8:36:34 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 8:39:06 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started... What do you mean ?
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Post by link2twenty on Feb 22, 2019 8:46:18 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started... What do you mean ? User reviews are now open. Currently, it's at a 1.2/10 based on 43 reviews...
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Post by ioannisdenton on Feb 22, 2019 9:03:44 GMT
It is getting really low right now... Yes it is. played myself with the patches, 9 hours in total. Its nowhere near as bad as they say mid you. ACG claimed Owen as a perfomance was bad, i thought he was great. So far quests do have a plot in them. all of them. Sure one can say "oh you are just dropping from point a to b between objecives" but they in athem's quests give you a reason. Division is sterile in comparison.you just go there. No dialogue, nothing. Also at some point there were 11 people in fort tarsis to go and talk to. Give credit where it's due and give valid critisicm where it's due. I am not saying Anthem is a bioware classic cause it is not, the nature of it isn't. But it's a solid game. We play games for fun, Anthem is fun and can be engaging where classic biowaare formulas appear.
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Post by link2twenty on Feb 22, 2019 9:06:41 GMT
Here is a comparison to ME:A's PC score Anthem on the left ME:A on the right.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Feb 22, 2019 9:19:56 GMT
Here is a comparison to ME:A's PC score Anthem on the left ME:A on the right. ΜΕΑ after the latest patch was a great game, rough in some edges but great. Ofcourse a gameype of anthem is "less".
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 22, 2019 9:50:49 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started...
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Post by saandrig on Feb 22, 2019 9:59:42 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started... I wouldn't call a one sided stomp a war. There needs to be some slim hope for one of the sides.
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Post by link2twenty on Feb 22, 2019 10:05:47 GMT
And the war on Metacritic just started... I wouldn't call a one sided stomp a war. There needs to be some slim hope for one of the sides.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2019 10:08:32 GMT
The Guardian - 40 (2/5 stars) Even where it is strongest, Anthem rarely stretches beyond the derivative. The combat, while well-designed, is little more than Gears of War with jetpacks, and narratively it veers between inconsequential and downright irritating. This anthem is, sadly, a tedious and conservative dirge that we’ve all heard before www.theguardian.com/games/2019/feb/22/anthem-review-biowareIt feels like a boxing match where you are just wondering why the ref won't step in and end it.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 22, 2019 10:20:42 GMT
To think I see the days when we will be happy that a Bioware game may escape dropping below 60 on Metacritic... 10 years ago, meh, scratch that, even 3 years ago I would have laughed at the thought.
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 22, 2019 10:38:41 GMT
Again, what are you talking about? Billion dollar company? I can't think of a single company that would be valued at 1x yearly revenue. Also, do you not realize directors and officers are paid mostly in stock or options? Do you seriously not understand the difference between measuring the performance of an entire company and one of its divisions? That business lines can be profitable but still not worthwhile to invest in? So you don't have any actual evidence to suggest they are in financial trouble. Thanks. He basically conceded that your claim does make sense when saying "Revenue growth doesn't say much" as that also means it says enough therefore you post was not gibberish as he previously asserted.
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Post by ayenari on Feb 22, 2019 10:52:24 GMT
The only wrinkle is DAI came out fine, at least in imo. No, they struggled to fit that game in Frostbyte. Said so themselves. Whatever the case, the engine isn't helping them make better games. RED engine does many things far better, so does Unreal 4 and Unity. But for some reason, Bioware claims that sticking with Frostbyte this whole time has been worth it. My question is: wtf advantage does it have? That's an EA thing.
They're pushing Frostbite across most of their dev studios, not just Bioware, most likely both because it is in-house not requiring licensing fees and royalties on revenue to be paid, and because Frostbite is capable of some truly jaw-dropping graphics, which sells games.
It's just that Bioware doesn't seem capable of handling Frostbite as well as the folks at DICE.
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 22, 2019 10:58:38 GMT
So you don't have any actual evidence to suggest they are in financial trouble. Thanks. So you don't have any actual evidence to suggest you have any clue what you're talking about. Thanks. Burden of proof lies on you having claimed that EA is in financial trouble. maximusarael020 appears to have just been skeptical and simply questioning this claim.
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