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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 18:16:16 GMT
I don't necessarily agree with any of the video... You know the first minute and thirty seconds of this video actually hits upon a point I myself encountered a lot prior to immigration. The media will play up divisive issues when in relation to America, and this is coming from a guy who lived in Norway. Though admittedly it really started cracking off in the mid 90s, prior to that whenever an American issue came it was always some sort of tragedy or new NATO regulation or something. But something changed and suddenly the ex-martial affairs of Bill Clinton became pressing news.
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Post by corpusdei on Oct 20, 2016 18:24:25 GMT
Rule #1 for Americans visiting Britain - pretend you're Canadian. We can't tell the difference and you'll be much better received.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Oct 20, 2016 18:43:33 GMT
Some of you have said earlier that Canadians look better than Americans. The reason is there is less sun ray power up in Canadian latitudes, so people remain pale easier.
White people should avoid the sun and getting burnt tbh, unlike Brown and Black people whose skins are OK with getting tanned.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 18:56:15 GMT
1. And everybody does so in two languages? 2. Really? Did Canadian (French, Anglo or whatever) soldiers need a definition when they died in Flanders field or in Korea or more recently in Afghanistan? How is this relevant (to either points, really)? To the second, like Hawkeye said, the military does not represent the larger civilian population or their attitudes. But even more importantly, do you believe Canadian soldiers fought for Canada specifically, in the World Wars or Korea? Or did they fight for larger ideals that their allies were also fighting for? Canada has never fought for Canadian ideology (and I would challenge anyone to define one unique point of what that may be, beyond our application of "multiculturalism" which, as we've seen is the right of other people's cultures). We've essentially only ever fought for our allies, mostly Britain and more recently the US. Americans have a very particular definition of freedom and nationalism, the Brits have (or had) a very strong definition of Empire, what do we have that's ours? We fight for Western ideals when we have to, and we are good at that. But we've never had to fight for anything purely Canadian. Maybe that's part of the problem. To the first, not only are we not the only country to have bilingual anthems, but this doesn't even address my point that singing your anthem at sporting events is mundane, and thus not much of a show of patriotism. Where's that going the extra step? That we sing it twice? Actually we don't, because come to think of it, I can't recall a sporting event or public demonstration (Canada and Remembrance Day parades come to mind) where the anthem is actually sung in full in both languages. No, at best what they do (in Ontario at any rate) is sing the first verse in English, the second in French and finish off in English. And here's the problem with that whole setup anyway. This is just some dude's (or lady's in this case) editorial, but like the Aussie site Hawkeye linked it points out some things about our little French-English divide that are not at all favorable to this country. As for being a nature lover I can only say come to Gaspe (Northern Quebec). You will love it. Pure curiosity, is Northern Quebec where you're from? This may explain a few things. So who exactly does the military represent? Are our soldiers sacrifices less significant because we do not sing our national anthem in a bar? Yes, I believe they fought and died for Canada. The fact that we share the same ideals as the rest of the civilized world does not change the fact they were buried with the Canadian flag (when they were) and they died as Canadian soldiers, not British or American. We are Canadians. We live north of the border, where it's mostly cold and we tamed the cold. We have a queen. We have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom. We have hockey. We have curling. We have beer. We have beautiful women. And I could go on and on. Yes, we apparently have a French-English divide. But that is proven to be irrelevant when real trouble comes as was recently the case with Fort McMurray or some time ago with the floods in Calgary. And I would never agree for Quebec to be separated from the rest of Canada. As to your last question I fail to see the relevance of it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 19:04:52 GMT
Canada is adorable. That is all. You know, Canada tries to set a good, peaceful example. It works hard at being fair and compassionate and there are a lot of good people here. So yes, I agree wholeheartedly with you that Canada is adorable.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 19:05:00 GMT
Once again you are hiding yourself behind words. "Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern" and yet you talk about Canadians as a whole, calling us smug and condescending based upon a (perceived by you, but imo nonexistent) slight. "a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us." and that is exactly my point, you do not have a significant enough sample of people to allow yourself to express such generalizations and to talk about cultural trends. How many people have you interacted with while being here? Are they really representative? Honestly mate, I'd say it's denial on your part (which is understandable), but given some of the informal writings by both Americans and Canadians on the matter, I'd have to say that it's real. I'm certainly not the only one that's seeing it after all. If you're really drawing my conclusions to be scientifically accurate (which I acknowledged was not) as a means of defense, good on you, but I think we're going to have a fundamental divide on our perception here. I'm not going to get into the hows and whys of why this is the case, but suffice to say, I'm not complaining about a slight from any single Canadian or singular experience. I'm saying that there's a cultural trend/movement where Canadians don't seem to like America, our culture, or our values that much, and that it can translate to smugness and condescension in attitudes. For who I've talked to, I kept my thoughts and feelings to myself when I was in mano-e-mano settings. There's not much point getting into a sociopolitical debate with a gas station attendant or campsite manager or hostel-hotellier. But I'm perceptive enough to distinguish how you guys write about stuff pertaining to America, or talk about America on the CBC, or make off-hand quips about Canada that may be entirely normal and non-controversial to you as a Canadian, but to me, as an American, I'm seeing the hints of some kind of cultural resentment (not jealousy, not envy, not that kind of resentment) towards the United States. It'd be the same if you came here and looked at how we did things and compared them to your home. To that end, I'm not even sure it's prudent to keep discussing this anymore since I doubt we'll find any common ground. And to go back to the "slight", I doubt it was intended as such, nor do I label it as one (your words, not mine after all). But it was rather bemusing to see how Canada definitely... worded things differently than how I would have regarding their role in space exploration and their joint endeavors with NASA.So let's agree to disagree. You are unable to provide me with one single example where you have personally experienced this Canadian anti-Americanism you are talking about, yet you persist in calling it such. And imo your last phrase is exactly condescending and smug.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 20, 2016 19:25:51 GMT
I don't necessarily agree with any of the video... You know the first minute and thirty seconds of this video actually hits upon a point I myself encountered a lot prior to immigration. The media will play up divisive issues when in relation to America, and this is coming from a guy who lived in Norway. Though admittedly it really started cracking off in the mid 90s, prior to that whenever an American issue came it was always some sort of tragedy or new NATO regulation or something. But something changed and suddenly the ex-martial affairs of Bill Clinton became pressing news. That video cracked me up so bad. Just got back from the States and the portions are REALLY massive. We kept shaking our heads. I ate the second half of that one burrito for lunch the next day and it was still almost too much. Anyway, German media only reports bad stuff about the US. Nobody knows what's going on in Canada here. It's one of these countries that are never on the news. Like Australia. It's just there. When people think of Canada here they think only of mountains and lakes. When people think of the States they think guns, racism and fat people. It's all because of the media. Somebody dies on death row over there, we read about it! Because that makes us Europeans feel so civilized. Japan still has the death penalty as well but nobody writes about that. What we do report about is cosplay events, robots and other stuff that fits the Japanese stereotype of weird or overworked. It's the same with Austria, it's our Canada. Mountains and happy people. Never on the news. No idea whatsoever what's going on down there politically. And they are our direct neighbors! It's a troubling development, if you ask me. How the media shapes our perception of the world. It distorts reality and we don't even notice unless we travel to these places and see for ourselves. And what's even more scary, history is forgotten or rewritten to tell a specific story of the world that serves to create a certain identity. There was a huge history textbook debate in Japan in the 90s about the depiction of WWII which painted Japan as innocent victims, completely ignoring their own war crimes and imperialist ideology. Everything seems to be written with an agenda in mind these days. It has become really difficult to get accurate objective information about something. Feels like 1984 is coming true in front of our eyes. Most people get their information off the internet now, where at least 50% is complete bullshit. But how can we even tell? There is so much knowledge that is getting lost. So much we once knew that we are only rediscovering now. Entire civilizations and their discoveries buried and forgotten. It's a bit unsettling. The idea that knowledge is not an ever growing database, a straight line to enlightenment, but fluctuates. Mass Effect touches on that subject with the Crucible. Also with the reapers and the guided development of organic life, keeping crucial information about what's really going on hidden. Sorry for rambling and going off-topic! Long story short: Cultural difference are enforced on purpose by the media to promote a "we against them" mentality. Which can then be used to justify all kinds of awful stuff. It's like we never learn from history. I mean, some people convince themselves the Holocaust never happened. Or the moon landing. No wonder we're going in circles. ;P
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 20, 2016 20:13:00 GMT
So who exactly does the military represent? Are our soldiers sacrifices less significant because we do not sing our national anthem in a bar? Yes, I believe they fought and died for Canada. The fact that we share the same ideals as the rest of the civilized world does not change the fact they were buried with the Canadian flag (when they were) and they died as Canadian soldiers, not British or American. We are Canadians. We live north of the border, where it's mostly cold and we tamed the cold. We have a queen. We have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom. We have hockey. We have curling. We have beer. We have beautiful women. And I could go on and on. Yes, we apparently have a French-English divide. But that is proven to be irrelevant when real trouble comes as was recently the case with Fort McMurray or some time ago with the floods in Calgary. And I would never agree for Quebec to be separated from the rest of Canada. As to your last question I fail to see the relevance of it. Military attitudes are not civilian attitudes. This is globally known, and globally applicable. And our soldiers' sacrifices have nothing to do with the issue. You brought it in for no reason. Again, deliberately missing or ignoring the point. Canadian soldiers fought for shared ideals but never for their own unique ones. We have no unique ideals. Coming together in times of crisis does not mean we are problem free outside of crisis. Far from it. And the Quebec separation movement was a farce, though I'm starting to think the rest of the country should've just cut'em loose, sink or swim style. The relevance is background, helping to explain your attitude. Like I said, just for curiosity.
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 20, 2016 20:16:58 GMT
The untold horror of Canadian imperialistic aggression: Now you know the truth! Also this.
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Post by FraQ on Oct 20, 2016 20:23:35 GMT
I don't necessarily agree with any of the video... That's funny! I love the way Canadians talk, eh. I think he got a lot of it right. The portions thing is absolutely true and I love it! What you have to understand is that most people don't eat the entire thing in one sitting. We eat some there at the restraint and then take the rest home with us to eat later. It's awesome! Also I initially thought he was misguided about the "your welcome" thing but after mulling it over awhile I've realized, I almost never say it! I say, "yup" and "no problem" a lot and it's not that I'm trying to be a dick. It's that helping people in the U.S. is what's expected of you. It's so ingrained in me that its second nature. I see someone in need and if I can help them, I do. I don't expect a, "thank you." So when someone does thank me, it's like, don't do that! C'mon, Why are you thanking me for doing what any decent human being would do? Never heard of soakers. Learned pretty early on in life not to step in puddles... Even if we do, it usually not sub zero temperatures in the U.S. So it's not that big a deal. The moral of this thread should be: Stop judging Foreign countries by stereotypes the media creates. The crazies who make the news are exactly that, CRAZY. It's not representative of average citizen. The U.S. Is just like anywhere else. We're predominantly good people with some bad ones mixed in. Come visit us and learn for yourself! Unless your French. Then we don't want you. J/k French people are great! With their sexy accents and delicious breads! Come visit the U.S. Immediately! I insist!
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 20, 2016 20:29:54 GMT
That video cracked me up so bad. Just got back from the States and the portions are REALLY massive. We kept shaking our heads. I ate the second half of that one burrito for lunch the next day and it was still almost too much. Anyway, German media only reports bad stuff about the US. Nobody knows what's going on in Canada here. It's one of these countries that are never on the news. Like Australia. It's just there. When people think of Canada here they think only of mountains and lakes. When people think of the States they think guns, racism and fat people. It's all because of the media. Somebody dies on death row over there, we read about it! Because that makes us Europeans feel so civilized. Japan still has the death penalty as well but nobody writes about that. What we do report about is cosplay events, robots and other stuff that fits the Japanese stereotype of weird or overworked. It's the same with Austria, it's our Canada. Mountains and happy people. Never on the news. No idea whatsoever what's going on down there politically. And they are our direct neighbors! It's a troubling development, if you ask me. How the media shapes our perception of the world. It distorts reality and we don't even notice unless we travel to these places and see for ourselves. And what's even more scary, history is forgotten or rewritten to tell a specific story of the world that serves to create a certain identity. There was a huge history textbook debate in Japan in the 90s about the depiction of WWII which painted Japan as innocent victims, completely ignoring their own war crimes and imperialist ideology. Everything seems to be written with an agenda in mind these days. It has become really difficult to get accurate objective information about something. Feels like 1984 is coming true in front of our eyes. Most people get their information off the internet now, where at least 50% is complete bullshit. But how can we even tell? There is so much knowledge that is getting lost. So much we once knew that we are only rediscovering now. Entire civilizations and their discoveries buried and forgotten. It's a bit unsettling. The idea that knowledge is not an ever growing database, a straight line to enlightenment, but fluctuates. Mass Effect touches on that subject with the Crucible. Also with the reapers and the guided development of organic life, keeping crucial information about what's really going on hidden. Sorry for rambling and going off-topic! Long story short: Cultural difference are enforced on purpose by the media to promote a "we against them" mentality. Which can then be used to justify all kinds of awful stuff. It's like we never learn from history. I mean, some people convince themselves the Holocaust never happened. Or the moon landing. No wonder we're going in circles. ;P Some good points. The only thing is, America seems to be a special case of everyone hating on it because it's America. No other country really gets that. And it's pretty paradoxical because American culture really is everywhere and even though people may criticize it, they don't stop it. And I don't mean get a country to block Hollywood, MacDonald's and MTV (wait, is that still a thing?) I mean individuals who decry Americanisms will still turn around sooner or later and grab a cheeseburger or watch Avengers 12. At the end of the day, you can take this quote from Paul Mooney on Chapelle's Show and apply to America as a whole on the global scale and you would not be wrong:
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 20, 2016 20:41:27 GMT
The untold horror of Canadian imperialistic aggression: Now you know the truth! Also this. Amazing, ever since I was a kid I have always loved puffins for some reason.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 21:21:03 GMT
So who exactly does the military represent? Are our soldiers sacrifices less significant because we do not sing our national anthem in a bar? Yes, I believe they fought and died for Canada. The fact that we share the same ideals as the rest of the civilized world does not change the fact they were buried with the Canadian flag (when they were) and they died as Canadian soldiers, not British or American. We are Canadians. We live north of the border, where it's mostly cold and we tamed the cold. We have a queen. We have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom. We have hockey. We have curling. We have beer. We have beautiful women. And I could go on and on. Yes, we apparently have a French-English divide. But that is proven to be irrelevant when real trouble comes as was recently the case with Fort McMurray or some time ago with the floods in Calgary. And I would never agree for Quebec to be separated from the rest of Canada. As to your last question I fail to see the relevance of it. Military attitudes are not civilian attitudes. This is globally known, and globally applicable. And our soldiers' sacrifices have nothing to do with the issue. You brought it in for no reason. Again, deliberately missing or ignoring the point. Canadian soldiers fought for shared ideals but never for their own unique ones. We have no unique ideals. Coming together in times of crisis does not mean we are problem free outside of crisis. Far from it. And the Quebec separation movement was a farce, though I'm starting to think the rest of the country should've just cut'em loose, sink or swim style. The relevance is background, helping to explain your attitude. Like I said, just for curiosity. Just on a unrelated note... Canada never contributed a single tank design to either world war. They modified a handful sure, but that isn't really what I meant at all before folks bring up variants of British or American tanks that Canada used. I mean even New Zealand put out an abomination that was just a tractor with sheet metal plastered onto it during the course of the second war.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Oct 20, 2016 21:26:26 GMT
Rule #1 for Americans visiting Britain - pretend you're Canadian. We can't tell the difference and you'll be much better received. My sister and BIL visited London earlier this year for several days. They loved it and were treated very well. Paris/France on the other hand... not so well and stated the city was filthy.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 21:28:49 GMT
So who exactly does the military represent? Are our soldiers sacrifices less significant because we do not sing our national anthem in a bar? Yes, I believe they fought and died for Canada. The fact that we share the same ideals as the rest of the civilized world does not change the fact they were buried with the Canadian flag (when they were) and they died as Canadian soldiers, not British or American. We are Canadians. We live north of the border, where it's mostly cold and we tamed the cold. We have a queen. We have a Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom. We have hockey. We have curling. We have beer. We have beautiful women. And I could go on and on. Yes, we apparently have a French-English divide. But that is proven to be irrelevant when real trouble comes as was recently the case with Fort McMurray or some time ago with the floods in Calgary. And I would never agree for Quebec to be separated from the rest of Canada. As to your last question I fail to see the relevance of it. Military attitudes are not civilian attitudes. This is globally known, and globally applicable. And our soldiers' sacrifices have nothing to do with the issue. You brought it in for no reason. Again, deliberately missing or ignoring the point. Canadian soldiers fought for shared ideals but never for their own unique ones. We have no unique ideals. Coming together in times of crisis does not mean we are problem free outside of crisis. Far from it. And the Quebec separation movement was a farce, though I'm starting to think the rest of the country should've just cut'em loose, sink or swim style. The relevance is background, helping to explain your attitude. Like I said, just for curiosity. I am not missing or ignoring any point. The essence of this discussion or the ideal that you are talking about is just another name for patriotism. When a foreigner comes and tells me that our people are smug and condescending, building a whole theory about our shortcomings as a nation out of a nonexistent museum I react. You apologize. I brought the military into discussion because they are Canadians, our sons and daughters, our fathers and mothers, they are not some nondescript individuals. They died on foreign soil to protect our freedom to say that we have no ideals. As for my attitude pray tell me what exactly needs explaining?
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Post by themikefest on Oct 20, 2016 21:50:44 GMT
I like Canada. They have the best restaurant in the world. Swiss Chalet. Each time I go there I order the rib chicken combo. Wish there was one here in North Carolina. I really like visiting Toronto. Going up and down Yonge Street. I remember watching the CN Tower being built. Even had lunch in the restaurant with my mother. That was along time ago. Took a friend to the Old Spagetti Factory. Mmmmm, Mmmmm. Good. Then went and watched the Maple Leafs shutout the Rangers 6-0. I need to go back up there for a visit. Its been a while.
They did have a Mother's Pizza, but it shut down however long ago. Good pizza. Yeah. There's a lot of good things in Canada.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 21:52:47 GMT
I like Canada. They have the best restaurant in the world. Swiss Chalet. Each time I go there I order the rib chicken combo. Wish there was one here in North Carolina. I really like visiting Toronto. Going up and down Yonge Street. I remember watching the CN Tower being built. Even had lunch in the restaurant with my mother. That was along time ago. Took a friend to the Old Spagetti Factory. Mmmmm, Mmmmm. Good. Then went and watched the Maple Leafs shutout the Rangers 6-0. I need to go back up there for a visit. Its been a while. They did have a Mother's Pizza, but it shut down however long ago. Good pizza. Yeah. There's a lot of good things in Canada. Montreal was tolerable while I was there.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 20, 2016 21:54:50 GMT
I like Canada. They have the best restaurant in the world. Swiss Chalet. Each time I go there I order the rib chicken combo. Wish there was one here in North Carolina. I really like visiting Toronto. Going up and down Yonge Street. I remember watching the CN Tower being built. Even had lunch in the restaurant with my mother. That was along time ago. Took a friend to the Old Spagetti Factory. Mmmmm, Mmmmm. Good. Then went and watched the Maple Leafs shutout the Rangers 6-0. I need to go back up there for a visit. Its been a while. They did have a Mother's Pizza, but it shut down however long ago. Good pizza. Yeah. There's a lot of good things in Canada. Montreal was tolerable while I was there. The last time I was in Montreal was in 1977. Nice place.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 21:57:06 GMT
Montreal was tolerable while I was there. The last time I was in Montreal was in 1977. Nice place. 2007 for me. I liked the cobblestone streets in the classical district of the town. Beer was overpriced though.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 21:58:12 GMT
I don't necessarily agree with any of the video... That's funny! I love the way Canadians talk, eh. I think he got a lot of it right. The portions thing is absolutely true and I love it! What you have to understand is that most people don't eat the entire thing in one sitting. We eat some there at the restraint and then take the rest home with us to eat later. It's awesome! Also I initially thought he was misguided about the "your welcome" thing but after mulling it over awhile I've realized, I almost never say it! I say, "yup" and "no problem" a lot and it's not that I'm trying to be a dick. It's that helping people in the U.S. is what's expected of you. It's so ingrained in me that its second nature. I see someone in need and if I can help them, I do. I don't expect a, "thank you." So when someone does thank me, it's like, don't do that! C'mon, Why are you thanking me for doing what any decent human being would do? Never heard of soakers. Learned pretty early on in life not to step in puddles... Even if we do, it usually not sub zero temperatures in the U.S. So it's not that big a deal. The moral of this thread should be: Stop judging Foreign countries by stereotypes the media creates. The crazies who make the news are exactly that, CRAZY. It's not representative of average citizen. The U.S. Is just like anywhere else. We're predominantly good people with some bad ones mixed in. Come visit us and learn for yourself! Unless your French. Then we don't want you. J/k French people are great! With their sexy accents and delicious breads! Come visit the U.S. Immediately! I insist! Oh, we do come... And in great numbers. "Les oies blanches du Quebec" - closest translation would be "the white geese of Quebec" is the name we give to the huge number of elderly who come to Quebec during summer and flee to Florida as soon as the weather starts degrading. Like the migratory birds. I personally adore Fort Lauderdale and Miami. But as a Canadian, I am anti-American, right?
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 22:01:40 GMT
The last time I was in Montreal was in 1977. Nice place. 2007 for me. I liked the cobblestone streets in the classical district of the town. Beer was overpriced though. Of course it was overpriced for you! You're American, right? We're anti-American.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 22:03:57 GMT
2007 for me. I liked the cobblestone streets in the classical district of the town. Beer was overpriced though. Of course it was overpriced for you! You're American, right? We're anti-American. Who in their right mind charges 15 dollars for a twelve pack in 2007? Sure those prices are more or less acceptable today what with inflation and all but...still it was annoying.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 22:07:13 GMT
Of course it was overpriced for you! You're American, right? We're anti-American. Who in their right mind charges 15 dollars for a twelve pack in 2007? Sure those prices are more or less acceptable today what with inflation and all but...still it was annoying. Nobody. But then again it depends on the beer...
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Post by FraQ on Oct 20, 2016 22:17:28 GMT
But as a Canadian, I am anti-American, right? C'mon Canadian buddy, don't be like that. I love hockey and maple syrup too. See, we're bonding! Bring it in!
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