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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 16:52:21 GMT
Probably not comforting but I thought the whole world fell out of love with the States during the Bush/Iraq war disaster? At least in Europe we're still resentful. Especially liberal middle class Germans are so anti-America it's not even funny anymore... I talk about it with my American friend all the time. Our media is having a party with Trump. Oh boy! Also every black man shot is like Christmas for every self-righteous German. Americans are ignorant racist gun wielding nutjobs to us. Nevermind that Germans are buying toy pistols like crazy to "protect" themselves from terrorists and refugees and that racism is soaring like crazy these days. A police officer was killed yesterday by one of our own racist nutjobs. Projection is a fascinating thing. Germans LOVE Canada on the other hand! Myself included. I'm a nature lover, so Canada is top of my list of countries where I'll try to flee to when ISIS invades Europe. ;P Not a fan of the US government but people are the same mix of horrible and awesome everywhere. It's not like Merkel's insane politics are any better. And America sure is beautiful. Just got back from four weeks of touring nine national parks. We as a world need to move on from that war. We have too many problems in each of our countries to keep that up. As for being a nature lover I can only say come to Gaspe (Northern Quebec). You will love it.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 16:55:02 GMT
Canada is the place where Canadians do Canadian things. Like not going to curling matches. Watch it on tv. Yes.....I watch curling.....why are you looking at me like that? Of course we watch curling on tv. WE ARE CANADIANS!
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 20, 2016 17:06:10 GMT
I'll just leave this for Crutch to move to the 'comparison' thread. Suffice to say, I saw plenty of the real Canada. I hate to break it to you, but we disagree on the nature of 'the real Canada' in several ways. Sorry if that's a problem for you. Besides, whatever happened to 'different points of view?' Is mine illegitimate because I'm critical of some aspects of Canadian culture that do exist, whether you acknowledge them or not?I never said your point of view was illegitimate. I tried to point out that you are expressing an opinion of a country in which you do not live, which makes you "I hate to break it to you" less qualified than I am. Would you accept my opinion on US matters without any question? Oh, wait... I have never expressed an opinion on US matters. And I won't because it's not my problem. No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't categorically deflect the perceived problem of the observer back onto him as well. Does one have to live in a country to be able to hold a valid opinion of their culture? It's like a person utilizing a service; I'm not dictating policy or saying such and such is terrible and needs to be changed. I'm just saying that, in concert with some research and my own experience firsthand with Canadian culture, there ends up being (for me at least) a few moments of raised eyebrows. Doing such reflection is not inherently incompatible with access and residence of a country or proximity via geography. Of course, I'm not concerning myself with Canadian matters at all either. I have a negative opinion of Trudeau, but that's about as far as my opinion goes on Canadian politics (despite the fact that, yes, I am informed in the general workings and political trends, if not the everyday issues or concerns to Canada via Parliament.) If you were to express such an opinion on the US, I might accept or reject it based on what exactly you're saying. Saying 'I don't like the US government is a valid concern'. Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern. Of course, I'm not doing this (nor am I even speaking about Canadian politics). I'm simply saying that you guys have a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:12:54 GMT
Watch it on tv. Yes.....I watch curling.....why are you looking at me like that? Of course we watch curling on tv. WE ARE CANADIANS! I still cannot believe that is actually done in the Olympics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:17:52 GMT
I agree, there is some sensitivity and it's in how I view the relationship between Canada and the US...It reminds me of a kind of sibling rivalry and I identify with the position Canada is in, while the States (as of late) makes me think of my louder, extremely overbearing older sister. So yeah, as much as I try to remain objective, I do take some stuff personally. And YES I was born in the US but moved up here when I was 4.5 and never moved back. You made the right choice, of course and thank you for that. Why Thank-You Doc! And you're welcome! I've always felt at home here.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 20, 2016 17:27:36 GMT
Never fear the controversial. Things go to hell that way a hell of a lot faster than the alternatives. I dont fear the controversial as SUCH but moths and flames come to mind ... maybe not the right way of expressing it... maybe like the t rex and the red flare from Jurassic World I'm not so senseless as to name names, but I know a couple of posters already find it outrageous that I don't have a negative view of America as a rational American. That issue rears its ugly head every now and again. Eh im kinda neutral about this country. Some good, some bad... but im no patriot. I think there are many many many countries id rather live in and have a better culture personally I dont buy into the whole pledge of allegiance thing or anything like that... it makes me go 'ewwww no' and cringe more than anything else... it genuinely sends a chill down my spine its just... I dont know... I find it off putting and generally unnerving... is that weird??? It goes for other patriotic things also i get quite unnerved when I see it... a little like the feeling I get when im around drunk people or when people have power tools... I have no idea why drunk people and power tools make me feel the same way as patriotism but eh In terms of a cultural difference, between USA in like the 20th century and now the 21st... 21st century USA is infinitely better just saying... our culture now is better than it has ever been... worldwide culture is the best its ever been if you compare us now to what we were 100 years ago even... so much has changed I agree, I think the Pledge is a bit dated and obsolete in our culture in this day and age, but I think it's worth examining why it came into being in the first place. The Pledge really became what it is during the middle of the Second Red Scare in the 50's (it existed prior to that, but not nearly to such a pervasive extent) as a means of instilling good, upstanding, non-Communist American values. Now, whether that's justified either is up for historians, but at the time, not many had a tremendous issue with it. Post-9/11, it received a new sort of rejuvenation as the country reeled from terrorism. It was seen as another patriotic thing that we Americans do to stand up for our country and values in the midst of such turmoil. As for other patriotic things, like what? America is a place like no other, in that one man's patriot is another man's extremist. Are you a patriot for flag-burning to protest the escalation and surge of more American forces into Iraq? Or are you a patriot for standing up, saluting the flag, and trying to beat/maim/kill the flag-burner? America, more than any other place, is a land of contradiction and irony, and I mean that in a sincere, non-controversial, academic way; Going back to my Aussie article, here's an interesting observation: As for cultural differences in the US through the centuries... I'd argue that your point doesn't really have much bearing. What's exactly different from the 20th century to the 21st? There was no 'broad culture' of the century since it was constantly changing and evolving, with different events and achievements and technology to really stimulate different periods of growth in one direction or the other. Culture from 2000-2009 was different than 2010-Present for example. Also... on what events are you basing this off of; our century has seen the increased (and expanding) rise in global warming from our utter dependence on toxic fossil fuels, the challenge of running a semi-militaristic hegemony as the world's only remaining superpower (and the only hyperpower that has thus far ever existed), the further increase and rise in racial tensions reaching a level of pressure not seen since the 1960's, the continued paranoia and fear of external, existential threats from hidden, unseen, and often faceless actors on the global stage (terrorism), the most powerful government in history under a right-wing nutjob who literally believed God had chosen him to bring American freedom to the world (and the even larger terror that we somehow elected him twice), and a culture of increased self-centeredness and narcissism (though to be fair, this is actually indicative to the Western World as a whole). And all of this is just in the first two decades of the 21st Century, one of which is still in progress. The 20th century saw tremendous leaps and bounds, along with pitfalls and potholes. Which means that not to say that you're wrong, but it's not exactly prudent to express admiration and preference from one century and its cultural values (which you didn't define) to another when the attitudes were (and are) constantly shifting and changing.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 20, 2016 17:28:45 GMT
Of course we watch curling on tv. WE ARE CANADIANS! I still cannot believe that is actually done in the Olympics. Why not? It's not all that bad. I mean, I support the movement to make fishing a sport, so why not?
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:35:30 GMT
I still cannot believe that is actually done in the Olympics. Why not? Its among the stupidest shit I have ever seen for one. For another, it really isn't intensive or requiring of any particular effort. Olympiad events to my eye are supposed to show the best of the best athletes in the world, not some re-purposed game for retirees.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 20, 2016 17:37:08 GMT
Its among the stupidest shit I have ever seen for one. For another, it really isn't intensive or requiring of any particular effort. Olympiad events to my eye are supposed to show the best of the best athletes in the world, not some re-purposed game for retirees. What about golf then?
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 20, 2016 17:38:16 GMT
Its among the stupidest shit I have ever seen for one. For another, it really isn't intensive or requiring of any particular effort. Olympiad events to my eye are supposed to show the best of the best athletes in the world, not some re-purposed game for retirees. For one thing it's no worse than any of another dozen Olympic sports, for the 2nd you have obviously never curled if you think it takes no effort.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:38:47 GMT
Its among the stupidest shit I have ever seen for one. For another, it really isn't intensive or requiring of any particular effort. Olympiad events to my eye are supposed to show the best of the best athletes in the world, not some re-purposed game for retirees. What about golf then? It shouldn't be in the Summer games either. And reinstating it after a century long hiatus was a mistake.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:40:52 GMT
Its among the stupidest shit I have ever seen for one. For another, it really isn't intensive or requiring of any particular effort. Olympiad events to my eye are supposed to show the best of the best athletes in the world, not some re-purposed game for retirees. For one thing it's no worse than any of another dozen Olympic sports, for the 2nd you have obviously never curled if you think it takes no effort. Medical data on the subject has revealed that it burns about as much calories as walking per hour generally. Just going to leave that out there. Unlike say hockey or wrestling, or running, or any method of superior aerobic exercise.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 20, 2016 17:42:14 GMT
I never said your point of view was illegitimate. I tried to point out that you are expressing an opinion of a country in which you do not live, which makes you "I hate to break it to you" less qualified than I am. Would you accept my opinion on US matters without any question? Oh, wait... I have never expressed an opinion on US matters. And I won't because it's not my problem. No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't categorically deflect the perceived problem of the observer back onto him as well. Does one have to live in a country to be able to hold a valid opinion of their culture? It's like a person utilizing a service; I'm not dictating policy or saying such and such is terrible and needs to be changed. I'm just saying that, in concert with some research and my own experience firsthand with Canadian culture, there ends up being (for me at least) a few moments of raised eyebrows. Doing such reflection is not inherently incompatible with access and residence of a country or proximity via geography. Of course, I'm not concerning myself with Canadian matters at all either. I have a negative opinion of Trudeau, but that's about as far as my opinion goes on Canadian politics (despite the fact that, yes, I am informed in the general workings and political trends, if not the everyday issues or concerns to Canada via Parliament.) If you were to express such an opinion on the US, I might accept or reject it based on what exactly you're saying. Saying 'I don't like the US government is a valid concern'. Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern. Of course, I'm not doing this (nor am I even speaking about Canadian politics). I'm simply saying that you guys have a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us. Once again you are hiding yourself behind words. "Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern" and yet you talk about Canadians as a whole, calling us smug and condescending based upon a (perceived by you, but imo nonexistent) slight. "a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us." and that is exactly my point, you do not have a significant enough sample of people to allow yourself to express such generalizations and to talk about cultural trends. How many people have you interacted with while being here? Are they really representative?
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 20, 2016 17:45:05 GMT
If curling were a summer sport, I might actually watch it.
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 20, 2016 17:45:37 GMT
For one thing it's no worse than any of another dozen Olympic sports, for the 2nd you have obviously never curled if you think it takes no effort. Medical data on the subject has revealed that it burns about as much calories as walking per hour generally. Just going to leave that out there. Unlike say hockey or wrestling, or running, or any method of superior aerobic exercise. Wrong. You may be talking about actually delivering the rock. Sweep/brush for a couple ends in a game and your tongue will be down to your toes, I guarantee it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:52:14 GMT
I never said your point of view was illegitimate. I tried to point out that you are expressing an opinion of a country in which you do not live, which makes you "I hate to break it to you" less qualified than I am. Would you accept my opinion on US matters without any question? Oh, wait... I have never expressed an opinion on US matters. And I won't because it's not my problem. No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't categorically deflect the perceived problem of the observer back onto him as well. Does one have to live in a country to be able to hold a valid opinion of their culture? It's like a person utilizing a service; I'm not dictating policy or saying such and such is terrible and needs to be changed. I'm just saying that, in concert with some research and my own experience firsthand with Canadian culture, there ends up being (for me at least) a few moments of raised eyebrows. Doing such reflection is not inherently incompatible with access and residence of a country or proximity via geography. Of course, I'm not concerning myself with Canadian matters at all either. I have a negative opinion of Trudeau, but that's about as far as my opinion goes on Canadian politics (despite the fact that, yes, I am informed in the general workings and political trends, if not the everyday issues or concerns to Canada via Parliament.) If you were to express such an opinion on the US, I might accept or reject it based on what exactly you're saying. Saying 'I don't like the US government is a valid concern'. Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern. Of course, I'm not doing this (nor am I even speaking about Canadian politics). I'm simply saying that you guys have a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us. Seriously, Hawkeye, the impression the US media gives of the States makes it hard not to criticize. Canadians are aware that the majority of Americans are decent people, but they shake their heads at the amount of attention your media gives to rude, beligerant idiots. It's like the States wants to endorse obnoxious, ignorant behavior. Canadians want to differintiate themselves from Americans not out of some inferiority/superiority complex, but because being associated with what is being portrayed on American TV is embaressing. Do you have any idea how many people around the world will confuse Canada and the States? It's like taking a buddy to a party and watching him get drunk and make an ass of himself, then have to either make excuses for him or deny knowing him. I mean sure, he's a nice guy for the most part, but he has a terrible habit of showcasing his worse traits...and he's proud of it!
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:53:41 GMT
Medical data on the subject has revealed that it burns about as much calories as walking per hour generally. Just going to leave that out there. Unlike say hockey or wrestling, or running, or any method of superior aerobic exercise. Wrong. You may be talking about actually delivering the rock. Sweep/brush for a couple ends in a game and your tongue will be down to your toes, I guarantee it. I will take the medical professionals at their word. Thank you.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 20, 2016 17:57:06 GMT
If curling were a summer sport, I might actually watch it. "Hurry up Stan, before the ice melts!" That might provide humor if nothing else I suppose.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 20, 2016 17:57:25 GMT
1. And everybody does so in two languages? 2. Really? Did Canadian (French, Anglo or whatever) soldiers need a definition when they died in Flanders field or in Korea or more recently in Afghanistan? How is this relevant (to either points, really)? To the second, like Hawkeye said, the military does not represent the larger civilian population or their attitudes. But even more importantly, do you believe Canadian soldiers fought for Canada specifically, in the World Wars or Korea? Or did they fight for larger ideals that their allies were also fighting for? Canada has never fought for Canadian ideology (and I would challenge anyone to define one unique point of what that may be, beyond our application of "multiculturalism" which, as we've seen is the right of other people's cultures). We've essentially only ever fought for our allies, mostly Britain and more recently the US. Americans have a very particular definition of freedom and nationalism, the Brits have (or had) a very strong definition of Empire, what do we have that's ours? We fight for Western ideals when we have to, and we are good at that. But we've never had to fight for anything purely Canadian. Maybe that's part of the problem. To the first, not only are we not the only country to have bilingual anthems, but this doesn't even address my point that singing your anthem at sporting events is mundane, and thus not much of a show of patriotism. Where's that going the extra step? That we sing it twice? Actually we don't, because come to think of it, I can't recall a sporting event or public demonstration (Canada and Remembrance Day parades come to mind) where the anthem is actually sung in full in both languages. No, at best what they do (in Ontario at any rate) is sing the first verse in English, the second in French and finish off in English. And here's the problem with that whole setup anyway. This is just some dude's (or lady's in this case) editorial, but like the Aussie site Hawkeye linked it points out some things about our little French-English divide that are not at all favorable to this country. As for being a nature lover I can only say come to Gaspe (Northern Quebec). You will love it. Pure curiosity, is Northern Quebec where you're from? This may explain a few things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 18:01:07 GMT
I dont fear the controversial as SUCH but moths and flames come to mind ... maybe not the right way of expressing it... maybe like the t rex and the red flare from Jurassic World Eh im kinda neutral about this country. Some good, some bad... but im no patriot. I think there are many many many countries id rather live in and have a better culture personally I dont buy into the whole pledge of allegiance thing or anything like that... it makes me go 'ewwww no' and cringe more than anything else... it genuinely sends a chill down my spine its just... I dont know... I find it off putting and generally unnerving... is that weird??? It goes for other patriotic things also i get quite unnerved when I see it... a little like the feeling I get when im around drunk people or when people have power tools... I have no idea why drunk people and power tools make me feel the same way as patriotism but eh In terms of a cultural difference, between USA in like the 20th century and now the 21st... 21st century USA is infinitely better just saying... our culture now is better than it has ever been... worldwide culture is the best its ever been if you compare us now to what we were 100 years ago even... so much has changed I agree, I think the Pledge is a bit dated and obsolete in our culture in this day and age, but I think it's worth examining why it came into being in the first place. The Pledge really became what it is during the middle of the Second Red Scare in the 50's (it existed prior to that, but not nearly to such a pervasive extent) as a means of instilling good, upstanding, non-Communist American values. Now, whether that's justified either is up for historians, but at the time, not many had a tremendous issue with it. Post-9/11, it received a new sort of rejuvenation as the country reeled from terrorism. It was seen as another patriotic thing that we Americans do to stand up for our country and values in the midst of such turmoil. As for other patriotic things, like what? America is a place like no other, in that one man's patriot is another man's extremist. Are you a patriot for flag-burning to protest the escalation and surge of more American forces into Iraq? Or are you a patriot for standing up, saluting the flag, and trying to beat/maim/kill the flag-burner? America, more than any other place, is a land of contradiction and irony, and I mean that in a sincere, non-controversial, academic way; Going back to my Aussie article, here's an interesting observation: As for cultural differences in the US through the centuries... I'd argue that your point doesn't really have much bearing. What's exactly different from the 20th century to the 21st? There was no 'broad culture' of the century since it was constantly changing and evolving, with different events and achievements and technology to really stimulate different periods of growth in one direction or the other. Culture from 2000-2009 was different than 2010-Present for example. Also... on what events are you basing this off of; our century has seen the increased (and expanding) rise in global warming from our utter dependence on toxic fossil fuels, the challenge of running a semi-militaristic hegemony as the world's only remaining superpower (and the only hyperpower that has thus far ever existed), the further increase and rise in racial tensions reaching a level of pressure not seen since the 1960's, the continued paranoia and fear of external, existential threats from hidden, unseen, and often faceless actors on the global stage (terrorism), the most powerful government in history under a right-wing nutjob who literally believed God had chosen him to bring American freedom to the world (and the even larger terror that we somehow elected him twice), and a culture of increased self-centeredness and narcissism (though to be fair, this is actually indicative to the Western World as a whole). And all of this is just in the first two decades of the 21st Century, one of which is still in progress. The 20th century saw tremendous leaps and bounds, along with pitfalls and potholes. Which means that not to say that you're wrong, but it's not exactly prudent to express admiration and preference from one century and its cultural values (which you didn't define) to another when the attitudes were (and are) constantly shifting and changing. Eh to me its just a piece of cloth so... I understand what youre saying though I think it is quite interesting how it came about but its caused quite a bit of uh trouble I guess... and personally i dont remember ever saying it... and i can imagine it gives other countries a bad impression of us @article... to me its a lump of rock that I happen to live on... it doesnt exist for a reason other than that the revolutionary war was won it just... exists. I have no pride in my country but im glad I live here instead of somewhere else where women are second class citizens for example but thats all my feelings on the matter... I do agree that patriotism can be dividing though I mean... its like religion. Everyones interpretation of it is different I meant uh in terms of treatment of people... women, gays, ethnic minorities... the treatment of people has massively increased between the start of the 20th century and today so weve improved as a culture even if our society is a mess... if that makes sense
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 20, 2016 18:05:35 GMT
No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't categorically deflect the perceived problem of the observer back onto him as well. Does one have to live in a country to be able to hold a valid opinion of their culture? It's like a person utilizing a service; I'm not dictating policy or saying such and such is terrible and needs to be changed. I'm just saying that, in concert with some research and my own experience firsthand with Canadian culture, there ends up being (for me at least) a few moments of raised eyebrows. Doing such reflection is not inherently incompatible with access and residence of a country or proximity via geography. Of course, I'm not concerning myself with Canadian matters at all either. I have a negative opinion of Trudeau, but that's about as far as my opinion goes on Canadian politics (despite the fact that, yes, I am informed in the general workings and political trends, if not the everyday issues or concerns to Canada via Parliament.) If you were to express such an opinion on the US, I might accept or reject it based on what exactly you're saying. Saying 'I don't like the US government is a valid concern'. Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern. Of course, I'm not doing this (nor am I even speaking about Canadian politics). I'm simply saying that you guys have a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us. Once again you are hiding yourself behind words. "Saying 'the Americans should do...' is not, imo, a valid concern" and yet you talk about Canadians as a whole, calling us smug and condescending based upon a (perceived by you, but imo nonexistent) slight. "a somewhat problematic attitude (as a general cultural trend) towards Americans that I personally see as a form of cognitive bias against us." and that is exactly my point, you do not have a significant enough sample of people to allow yourself to express such generalizations and to talk about cultural trends. How many people have you interacted with while being here? Are they really representative? Honestly mate, I'd say it's denial on your part (which is understandable), but given some of the informal writings by both Americans and Canadians on the matter, I'd have to say that it's real. I'm certainly not the only one that's seeing it after all. If you're really drawing my conclusions to be scientifically accurate (which I acknowledged was not) as a means of defense, good on you, but I think we're going to have a fundamental divide on our perception here. I'm not going to get into the hows and whys of why this is the case, but suffice to say, I'm not complaining about a slight from any single Canadian or singular experience. I'm saying that there's a cultural trend/movement where Canadians don't seem to like America, our culture, or our values that much, and that it can translate to smugness and condescension in attitudes. For who I've talked to, I kept my thoughts and feelings to myself when I was in mano-e-mano settings. There's not much point getting into a sociopolitical debate with a gas station attendant or campsite manager or hostel-hotellier. But I'm perceptive enough to distinguish how you guys write about stuff pertaining to America, or talk about America on the CBC, or make off-hand quips about Canada that may be entirely normal and non-controversial to you as a Canadian, but to me, as an American, I'm seeing the hints of some kind of cultural resentment (not jealousy, not envy, not that kind of resentment) towards the United States. It'd be the same if you came here and looked at how we did things and compared them to your home. To that end, I'm not even sure it's prudent to keep discussing this anymore since I doubt we'll find any common ground. And to go back to the "slight", I doubt it was intended as such, nor do I label it as one (your words, not mine after all). But it was rather bemusing to see how Canada definitely... worded things differently than how I would have regarding their role in space exploration and their joint endeavors with NASA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 18:05:43 GMT
Probably not comforting but I thought the whole world fell out of love with the States during the Bush/Iraq war disaster? At least in Europe we're still resentful. Especially liberal middle class Germans are so anti-America it's not even funny anymore... I talk about it with my American friend all the time. Our media is having a party with Trump. Oh boy! Also every black man shot is like Christmas for every self-righteous German. Americans are ignorant racist gun wielding nutjobs to us. Nevermind that Germans are buying toy pistols like crazy to "protect" themselves from terrorists and refugees and that racism is soaring like crazy these days. A police officer was killed yesterday by one of our own racist nutjobs. Projection is a fascinating thing. Germans LOVE Canada on the other hand! Myself included. I'm a nature lover, so Canada is top of my list of countries where I'll try to flee to when ISIS invades Europe. ;P Not a fan of the US government but people are the same mix of horrible and awesome everywhere. It's not like Merkel's insane politics are any better. And America sure is beautiful. Just got back from four weeks of touring nine national parks. We as a world need to move on from that war. We have too many problems in each of our countries to keep that up. As for being a nature lover I can only say come to Gaspe (Northern Quebec). You will love it.I've only been as far East as Ontario, but I know Quebec shares similar terrain, so I figure it must be beautiful. The four and a half years I spent just outside of Sudbury showed me some of the most beautiful autum scenery. The colours were amazing...but if that area gets the same amount of snow as the Sudbury region I'd pass on the winter season. I like my knee deep snow Calgary winters.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 20, 2016 18:07:29 GMT
We as a world need to move on from that war. We have too many problems in each of our countries to keep that up. As for being a nature lover I can only say come to Gaspe (Northern Quebec). You will love it. Agreed. But I doubt we'll ever outgrow war. It's part of our nature. If we don't get off this planet sometime this century, I'm pretty sure we'll all die in a nuclear or bio war or something equally nasty... I've never been to the French side of Canada! Even though I was a MASSIVE Celine Dion fan as a teenager! Especially her French songs, far superior. All my friends were into grunge, rock and metal while I listened to Celine nonstop, exclusively for a while. And these chill-out nature CDs, Solitudes? (My teenage days were rough, yes. ) A year later or so I discovered Sarah McLachlan, haha. Can't describe how much I loved these two singers. I'll love Canada for them and of course Mass Effect forever. Wait, I should probably curse you because Celine Dion utterly ruined my taste in music. I've been obsessed with female vocals ever since. Like, I can't stand 90% of all male singers. No joke. It must have been some sort of self-induced brain-washing... But I'm rehabilitated, mostly... it's fine now. Really. Haven't listened to Celine Dion in ages. Her music turned to crap over a decade ago. That's when I moved on. Same with Sarah McLachlan. I only fire up a song when I'm having a major nostalgic phase or something really bad happened that requires special comfort... I'M FINE, REALLY. Now I listen to Kandle. That's different! Gosh, so in love with her music... *sigh* I've only been to BC, Alberta, the Yukon, the Northwest Territories briefly and Nova Scotia (well, Halifax plus a day trip to a lighthouse...). And Alaska, which should totally be part of Canada if you ask me... Actually, I want all borders to go away so that I can spend the winter in warm Arizona with my Mass Effect soulmate. From October to February it's actually not hell on earth anymore for a German. I'd be fine with winter if we actually had decent snow. But we only get rain and gray skies for like five months. PS: I'm open to a marriage of convenience to get into Canada. Preferably to a violin playing Japanese-Canadian, actually violin anything is good, I'm open-minded. I don't care for sports but I can adept! I used to watch ski jumping as a teenager. I know that's not a Canadian thing and your athletes suck at it, but it's something, right?! Oh, I like snowboard videogames!
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