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Post by fairdragon on Aug 1, 2020 7:23:09 GMT
Looking forward to the answers.
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Post by githcheater on Aug 1, 2020 18:48:13 GMT
Although Aveline and Sigrun are not "fan service", women like them would be nice to romance.
Velanna might have been fun to romance despite her hateful emotional anti-human baggage.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 1, 2020 21:38:27 GMT
ME? I went with strong women, innocent and traumatized, and that's because they are my LI's through all the DA franchise.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Aug 1, 2020 21:50:21 GMT
Someone sane for a change? I jest, but all things considered most Dragon Age romance options have enough baggage to choke a dragon I'm going to go with shining armor, robin hood and rebel
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 1, 2020 22:04:06 GMT
I chose the Casanova/rebel. I always seem to go for the more chaotic characters.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Aug 1, 2020 23:39:14 GMT
Chose strong women, Robin Hood and Casanova (for Isabela - my favourite BioWare romance and companion).
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 2, 2020 0:23:17 GMT
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Post by githcheater on Aug 2, 2020 0:26:10 GMT
Chose strong women, Robin Hood and Casanova (for Isabela - my favourite BioWare romance and companion). Isabela was my favorite romance as well. I loved her sense of humor.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 2, 2020 3:05:44 GMT
Alistair doesn't fit with "bastard" because, for him, that label is not a personality trait but refers to his parentage. If someone who was unfamiliar with the series were to look at that list, with a whole bunch of personality traits, they would probably think you were calling Alistair an asshole.
Also, "schizophrenic" does not involve multiple personalities; that's a separate disorder.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 2, 2020 3:54:21 GMT
Alistair doesn't fit with "bastard" because, for him, that label is not a personality trait but refers to his parentage. If someone who was unfamiliar with the series were to look at that list, with a whole bunch of personality traits, they would probably think you were calling Alistair an asshole.
Also, "schizophrenic" does not involve multiple personalities; that's a separate disorder. Excuse you, SOME of us are only interested in romancing people born out of wedlock. On serious note, Anders doesn't have *any* mental disorders, and people should stop fucking saying that he does. Having a non-corporeal entity living inside you is not remotely equivalent.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 2, 2020 5:40:03 GMT
I was going to make the same comment about Alistair, plus he isn't just any old bastard (born out of wedlock) but a royal bastard. That to some extent does define him as he knows he has an important father but is not happy about it, particularly when that affects the way people react to him. Also he can dump you if you make him King purely because you are the wrong race. On serious note, Anders doesn't have *any* mental disorders, and people should stop fucking saying that he does. Having a non-corporeal entity living inside you is not remotely equivalent. I absolutely agree with this. The problems Anders experiences are due to events in his life before he merged with Justice, so if anything he should fall under the category of "traumatised" lover. I also feel that some other characters there could fall under a number of headings: Dorian is a rebel but was also traumatised by what his father did and tried to do him. Sera has a hell of a lot of issues that would indicate she had been traumatised by an event or events in her past that we are never given insights into, not just the cookies thing. She is also a rebel rather than a true "Robin Hood". I'd like to romance a proper "Robin Hood" character but that wasn't Sera. Solas is a complex character, which is what makes him interesting and also a good antagonist. However, our PC wasn't aware he was the antagonist when they entered the romance with him and it is other things that attract you to him. To be honest I don't think I'd want to romance a hidden antagonist again in the next game.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 2, 2020 6:18:38 GMT
I mean, I actually find the whole poll stupid and annoying as hell. Even Blackwall, the most boring party member across all three games (in my opinion) isn't defined solely by the single trait of being a "criminal".
"Criminal" isn't even a personality type. Anyone can be one. Ditto for royal, mercenary, bastard, etc etc.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 2, 2020 6:38:55 GMT
On serious note, Anders doesn't have *any* mental disorders, and people should stop fucking saying that he does. Having a non-corporeal entity living inside you is not remotely equivalent. I agree, but it didn't help much that his writer said she took inspiration from bipolar disorder.
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Now that I read that again, it seems more like she's talking about how he is normally, not to do with the Justice merge specifically.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 2, 2020 7:01:25 GMT
On serious note, Anders doesn't have *any* mental disorders, and people should stop fucking saying that he does. Having a non-corporeal entity living inside you is not remotely equivalent. I agree, but it didn't help much that his writer said she took inspiration from bipolar disorder.
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Now that I read that again, it seems more like she's talking about how he is normally, not to do with the Justice merge specifically.
She's still not a mental health professional, though, and classifying Anders as such feeds into widespread, harmful misconceptions about mentally ill people, namely, that they are more likely to commit mass violence, when in reality, those suffering from mental illness are far more often the victims of violence. Frankly, this further convinces me that BioWare should stay right the fuck away from trying to explore "real world" issues like mental health and sexuality.
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Post by Fredward on Aug 2, 2020 7:02:29 GMT
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Post by dazk on Aug 2, 2020 7:14:36 GMT
Chose strong women, Robin Hood and Casanova (for Isabela - my favourite BioWare romance and companion). Definitely the sassy, sarcastic type with her heart in the right place like Isabela.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 2, 2020 7:53:42 GMT
I agree, but it didn't help much that his writer said she took inspiration from bipolar disorder. I never knew this and it doesn't make any difference whether it was before or after his merger with Justice, if that was meant to reflect someone bi-polar then she clearly has no idea how it really affects you. I am bi-polar but thankfully it is only mild most of the time. For people with severe bi-polar it is torment and I do not see how anything about Anders equates with that. He was traumatised by his treatment as a mage, pure and simple, then Justice gave him a sense of purpose to do something about it for the sake of others rather than just think only of himself. He has periods of depression and self-doubt; wouldn't you after experiencing the things he has in life? However, they are not so debilitating that he cannot function at all. He is obsessed and driven about his cause of mage freedom, some of which he gets from Justice, but I see no evidence of the manic side of bi-polar expressing itself in any other way. She's still not a mental health professional, though, and classifying Anders as such feeds into widespread, harmful misconceptions about mentally ill people, namely, that they are more likely to commit mass violence, when in reality, those suffering from mental illness are far more often the victims of violence.
Exactly. Why can't he be simply someone with a cause that comes to define him and where the system he was forced to live under ultimately turned him into mass murderer?
Even if she did draw on mental health sources for her inspiration, did she really think it was helpful to mental illness sufferers to admit to it?
It also makes me even more angry that there is nothing they let you do about it until after he has taken the action, when it is patently obvious he is planning something bad that will likely involve his death. Then if Hawke lets him live, they either abandon him straight after they leave Kirkwall, if not in a romance, or later if they are.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 2, 2020 18:35:32 GMT
Even if she did draw on mental health sources for her inspiration, did she really think it was helpful to mental illness sufferers to admit to it? My read of the conversation is that she didn't think either way about it. She was asked a question that made specific reference to bi-polar disorder and made the revelation. This wasn't like some JKR Harry Potter "the wizarding world used to pee and poop whenever, wherever" revelation that came out of nowhere. That aside, unless it's some fun Easter egg, I'm never usually that interested in how the sausage is made with these characters. I realize I'm in the minority with the general population on these forums, who tend to consume any bit of information like a thirsty person in a desert. Whether the devs like it, or not, their word means something and does impact players' views of characters and stories. Eh, this is you injecting your view of Hawke's reasoning for being alone in DAI. I know it is because I've seen you use similar language regarding Fenris. Not every Hawke player shares this view. Also, I think it's unfair not to recognize that they did it for non-game reasons, resources and whatnot. They would have had to design every character in the Frostbite engine and bring back all of their VAs. You might counter that the LI didn't have to talk, but you know there would have been people clamoring for conversation. There's really no way to win in that scenario because each player will have a different reaction and opinion on the matter. Perhaps the best thing would be not to have had Hawke present at all. I'd be fine with that. I wasn't able to remake him to my satisfaction; I disliked the forced guilt that made no practical sense (all indications were that Corypheus was dead in Legacy, how is ANY of this Hawke's fault?); it was naked fanservice; The Choice in the Fade was naked player manipulation.
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Post by githcheater on Aug 2, 2020 18:36:42 GMT
I am manic depressive as well (bipolar).
I suspect that the author for Anders took a loose interpretation of bipolar to mean a dichotomy of two different personalities (Justice and Anders).
I saw nothing in Anders that suggested mental illness nor any manic or depressive behaviors.
Is it really so bad that Ander's author took inspiration from bipolar disorder even if her inspiration was flawed?
Should male writers not write female characters, or female writer not write male characters, because of lack of experience of being the opposite sex?
Some people are much too sensitive and concerned with being politically correct, to the detriment of stifling open discussion about controversial issues.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 2, 2020 19:36:35 GMT
Although Aveline and Sigrun are not "fan service", women like them would be nice to romance. Velanna might have been fun to romance despite her hateful emotional anti-human baggage. And what Typ are they?
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 2, 2020 19:40:27 GMT
Alistair doesn't fit with "bastard" because, for him, that label is not a personality trait but refers to his parentage. If someone who was unfamiliar with the series were to look at that list, with a whole bunch of personality traits, they would probably think you were calling Alistair an asshole.
Also, "schizophrenic" does not involve multiple personalities; that's a separate disorder. Than please help and tell me which type you think he is. It wasn't easy and the List is incomplete. So please help that the next cam aprove.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 2, 2020 19:59:33 GMT
I was going to make the same comment about Alistair, plus he isn't just any old bastard (born out of wedlock) but a royal bastard. That to some extent does define him as he knows he has an important father but is not happy about it, particularly when that affects the way people react to him. Also he can dump you if you make him King purely because you are the wrong race. On serious note, Anders doesn't have *any* mental disorders, and people should stop fucking saying that he does. Having a non-corporeal entity living inside you is not remotely equivalent. I absolutely agree with this. The problems Anders experiences are due to events in his life before he merged with Justice, so if anything he should fall under the category of "traumatised" lover. I also feel that some other characters there could fall under a number of headings: Dorian is a rebel but was also traumatised by what his father did and tried to do him. Sera has a hell of a lot of issues that would indicate she had been traumatised by an event or events in her past that we are never given insights into, not just the cookies thing. She is also a rebel rather than a true "Robin Hood". I'd like to romance a proper "Robin Hood" character but that wasn't Sera. Solas is a complex character, which is what makes him interesting and also a good antagonist. However, our PC wasn't aware he was the antagonist when they entered the romance with him and it is other things that attract you to him. To be honest I don't think I'd want to romance a hidden antagonist again in the next game. Let me explain. Yes it isn't as coplex as the character be, but that doesn't work in a pull. I have try to find the thinks what describes there majority behavior. traumatised is for me a person who is negative and have many problems to go ahead. Sera has bad experiens but she know how to deal with it. Her strongest characteristics are red jenny and her humor (or what it is.) red Jenny is robin Hood.
Dorian isn't traumatised, he is shocked and disappointed and don't trust people so easy, but that isn't what i meant. I see this is harder than i thought. My first pull sorry. I thought we would all see the same thing in the words, but that isn't the case. I only write the names because i know some people want similar characters. You see it on Casanova or strong woman. neither zeveran and Isabella nor Cassandra and Morrigan are equal, but they have something together. Zeveran is more the Yes-sayer while Isabella, says her opinion directly and without consideration and so on. I hope you understand what i mean.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 2, 2020 20:01:01 GMT
I mean, I actually find the whole poll stupid and annoying as hell. Even Blackwall, the most boring party member across all three games (in my opinion) isn't defined solely by the single trait of being a "criminal". "Criminal" isn't even a personality type. Anyone can be one. Ditto for royal, mercenary, bastard, etc etc. Than please help what can discrib the people without hundert of words.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 2, 2020 20:01:20 GMT
Perhaps the best thing would be not to have had Hawke present at all. I'd be fine with that. I wasn't able to remake him to my satisfaction; I disliked the forced guilt that made no practical sense (all indications were that Corypheus was dead in Legacy, how is ANY of this Hawke's fault?); it was naked fanservice; The Choice in the Fade was naked player manipulation. I don't know about the fan-service bit but I would agree with the rest of this, particularly the choice in the Fade.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 2, 2020 20:07:44 GMT
And when you click "somthing i forgot" it would be nice if you could say what i forgot.
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