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Post by Vy on Mar 24, 2017 14:40:31 GMT
...So, has the Mass Effect team said anything about this yet? Anything new at all? Too soon? Beyond Mac mentioning the MakeJaalBi hashtag and saying "we hear you 100%" yesterday, nope. The optimist in me says they'll address this once the biggest bugs and easily patchable issues (like saving in priority missions) are dealt with in the next week or two. The pessimist in me says they may just be waiting for this to blow over so they can ignore it completely; I'll need to see more than "We hear you" before I trust that they give a damn what we think.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 24, 2017 14:47:11 GMT
After seeing this image I have to say that, as someone that prefer woman, I feel bad for you. For me Gil and Reyes feels like minor npc, the same as this guy Cortez in ME3. (lack of unique face scan, body and non squadmate, lesser contents). Reyes even looks similar to my Ryder (preset 6 lol) its sad because lets be honest the true stars in Mass Effect are the aliens and the fact that you had never experience the feels to have your Alien(s) love interest on the field with you, I dont know what to say... I even thougth (few months before the release)doing a Jaal romance playthrough, as a male because Angara are the star of this game. Thanks for the kind words, it's appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 14:52:03 GMT
...So, has the Mass Effect team said anything about this yet? Anything new at all? Too soon? Beyond Mac mentioning the MakeJaalBi hashtag and saying "we hear you 100%" yesterday, nope. The optimist in me says they'll address this once the biggest bugs and easily patchable issues (like saving in priority missions) are dealt with in the next week or two. The pessimist in me says they may just be waiting for this to blow over so they can ignore it completely; I'll need to see more than "We hear you" before I trust that they give a damn what we think. ...Think they might be lurking the forums?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 14:59:51 GMT
They might have. Cathleen wrote bi Kaidan. She might have tried something with Scott, but it never panned out. Also, I guess the best way to explain it is... Jaal and Sara's romance story/scenes are based on Sara's personality. She is an explorer, she loves nature, she studies ancient stuff and she's a nerd. Jaal is the same way. They are kindred spirits. Their scenes are not something to be copy and pasted. They have a deep bond that makes them soulmates. And no this isn't a love-struck woman telling you this. I may romance Jaal, but I am a story teller too, and I could see where it was going when they met. Scott is a military guy, is more focused on less brainy stuff (he can't explain human eyeballs to Jaal, but Sara blurts out the answer like a computer). If he was to have a romance with Jaal, it would have to be based on his personality and Jaal has less common ground with Scott to begin with too. The problem with heavily defined PC's in what should be rather open RPG for players. Tch tch. Hearing this stuff about Sara and Scott really grates my nerves, since I feel like Bioware ripped me of option of making my own characters in this game. My Mandy is supposed to be quiet, bit shy, job oriented and hardworking, when Scott is supposed to be jokester that doesn't take stuff seriously enough, friendly and outgoing. I really dislike how Bioware greated background to what should be mine to create. Though I do see how this predefined characters would be serious issue with romances if they are written thinking of predefined Sara or Scott. Yeah it seems Scott/Cora and Sara/Jaal were the most focused on, and PeeBee because OF COURSE, but Liam and Vetra deserved better.
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Post by Vy on Mar 24, 2017 15:01:02 GMT
Beyond Mac mentioning the MakeJaalBi hashtag and saying "we hear you 100%" yesterday, nope. The optimist in me says they'll address this once the biggest bugs and easily patchable issues (like saving in priority missions) are dealt with in the next week or two. The pessimist in me says they may just be waiting for this to blow over so they can ignore it completely; I'll need to see more than "We hear you" before I trust that they give a damn what we think. ...Think they might be lurking the forums? It wouldn't surprise me. IIRC, Ian Frazier in particular is known to lurk a lot on this site and chime in from time to time on some threads. Hey devs, if you're reading this - sorry for the salt all over the place. This is an emotionally charged issue for a lot of us, which leads to some unrestrained venting. If you're looking for more coherent feedback, there's a thread people have started submitting open letters to. bsn.boards.net/thread/6157/open-letters-bioware-regarding-romances
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 15:05:00 GMT
Well devs if you're reading this all please stop doing the all but canon romances. (Meaning giving certain ships more content, more care, and a biased story preference over others). You did this crap in the original trilogy with Liara and now with Cora/Jaal. Just stop. It comes across as overbearing and you don't even put the same amount of care into the others.
It's nice that you guys like certain ships. That shouldn't come at the expense of the rest.
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Post by Mir Aven on Mar 24, 2017 15:05:40 GMT
At one point I was wondering if I would have to choose between Jaal and Kallo with my male!Ryder.. Once again I got my hopes too up Look at his butt. He probably sits too much and will never love anybody but his ship (if you buy him a chair which won't make his ass go like that, tho...). The bad thing : Ouch, and his legs clipping doesn't help either. The good thing: it reminded me that I need to buy a new armchair.
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Post by not so salty shark on Mar 24, 2017 15:08:17 GMT
I'm not even gonna be apologetic, personally speaking.
We had to fight for M/M content in particular...we got it, sure, but it really feels like to the ME team it's a "*sigh* Fucking fine..." obligatory tack-on instead of the full embrace of equality that we were aiming for.
They earned every bit of this salt tsunami.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 24, 2017 15:13:08 GMT
The problem with heavily defined PC's in what should be rather open RPG for players. Tch tch. Hearing this stuff about Sara and Scott really grates my nerves, since I feel like Bioware ripped me of option of making my own characters in this game. My Mandy is supposed to be quiet, bit shy, job oriented and hardworking, when Scott is supposed to be jokester that doesn't take stuff seriously enough, friendly and outgoing. I really dislike how Bioware greated background to what should be mine to create. Though I do see how this predefined characters would be serious issue with romances if they are written thinking of predefined Sara or Scott. Yeah it seems Scott/Cora and Sara/Jaal were the most focused on, and PeeBee because OF COURSE, but Liam and Vetra deserved better. Bad resource management is what happened here. It wasn't spread out evenly, there was clear bias.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:14:29 GMT
Yeah it seems Scott/Cora and Sara/Jaal were the most focused on, and PeeBee because OF COURSE, but Liam and Vetra deserved better. Bad resource management is what happened here. It wasn't spread out evenly, there was clear bias. I actually thought Sara and Liam would have a lot of content like Kaidan and Shepard, and Scott and Vetra would be the new Shepard and Garrus.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 15:16:50 GMT
Other way around. Reyes, or rather a character matching his description, was leaked as a m/m romance option long before Gil was. Then why are the animations only properly done for the female romance? Because #BiowareDontCare I mean jesus half the game looks like it was made on cocaine.
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Post by Vy on Mar 24, 2017 15:20:59 GMT
Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I realize I kinda want to see a Salarian romance in the future. Both because a clearly demisexual or asexual romance could be pretty neat to see, and because the difference in life expectancy would make for an interesting reversal of the Mayfly-December romance trope we see with Asari LIs.
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Mar 24, 2017 15:24:40 GMT
The problem with heavily defined PC's in what should be rather open RPG for players. Tch tch. Hearing this stuff about Sara and Scott really grates my nerves, since I feel like Bioware ripped me of option of making my own characters in this game. My Mandy is supposed to be quiet, bit shy, job oriented and hardworking, when Scott is supposed to be jokester that doesn't take stuff seriously enough, friendly and outgoing. I really dislike how Bioware greated background to what should be mine to create. Though I do see how this predefined characters would be serious issue with romances if they are written thinking of predefined Sara or Scott. Yeah it seems Scott/Cora and Sara/Jaal were the most focused on, and PeeBee because OF COURSE, but Liam and Vetra deserved better. But so did Gil and Reyes. Their romances deserved the same amount of attention, care, and respect as Cora, Jaal, and Peebee's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:28:24 GMT
Yeah it seems Scott/Cora and Sara/Jaal were the most focused on, and PeeBee because OF COURSE, but Liam and Vetra deserved better. But so did Gil and Reyes. Their romances deserved the same amount of attention, care, and respect as Cora, Jaal, and Peebee's. I can't even comment on Reyes. It wasn't just the models they copy and pasted, they never even wrote dialogue for him and Scott in that end scene about being Queen. I think Reyes was first meant to be a fling for Scott, then they added Sara since straight females only had 2 male options, then added the female romance, realized Scott was just a fling, tried to fix it and ran out of time, so they just put Scott in place of Sara and kept the dialogue from her full romance with Reyes.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 24, 2017 15:31:21 GMT
But so did Gil and Reyes. Their romances deserved the same amount of attention, care, and respect as Cora, Jaal, and Peebee's. I can't even comment on Reyes. It wasn't just the models they copy and pasted, they never even wrote dialogue for him and Scott in that end scene about being Queen. I think Reyes was first meant to be a fling for Scott, then they added Sara since straight females only had 2 male options, then added the female romance, realized Scott was just a fling, tried to fix it and ran out of time, so they just put Scott in place of Sara and kept the dialogue from her full romance with Reyes. We're being kicked while we're down at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:31:56 GMT
I can't even comment on Reyes. It wasn't just the models they copy and pasted, they never even wrote dialogue for him and Scott in that end scene about being Queen. I think Reyes was first meant to be a fling for Scott, then they added Sara since straight females only had 2 male options, then added the female romance, realized Scott was just a fling, tried to fix it and ran out of time, so they just put Scott in place of Sara and kept the dialogue from her full romance with Reyes. We're being kicked while we're down at this point. Yeah that discovery last night was pretty much the final straw imo.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 15:36:14 GMT
But so did Gil and Reyes. Their romances deserved the same amount of attention, care, and respect as Cora, Jaal, and Peebee's. I can't even comment on Reyes. It wasn't just the models they copy and pasted, they never even wrote dialogue for him and Scott in that end scene about being Queen. I think Reyes was first meant to be a fling for Scott, then they added Sara since straight females only had 2 male options, then added the female romance, realized Scott was just a fling, tried to fix it and ran out of time, so they just put Scott in place of Sara and kept the dialogue from her full romance with Reyes.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 24, 2017 15:36:48 GMT
We're being kicked while we're down at this point. Yeah that discovery last night was pretty much the final straw imo. Well I don't really wanna romance Gil, and this news about Reyes is making me worried about him, so it's either the romance with low content that's even less polished for Scott, or nothing. *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:39:40 GMT
Yeah that discovery last night was pretty much the final straw imo. Well I don't really wanna romance Gil, and this news about Reyes is making me worried about him, so it's either the romance with low content that's even less polished for Scott, or nothing. *sigh* Ugh... I'm just sticking with Jaal. Their romance and main plot become one big story connected in the game and it makes sense. Reyes is a mess and Liam gets the short end of the stick. I have no other options.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 24, 2017 15:45:07 GMT
jus waitin on that DA4 announcement cuz this andromeda situation not lookin gud
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Post by hopskipandarump on Mar 24, 2017 15:45:19 GMT
What did I miss? I'm seeing mentions of my bb Reyes and the thread jumped like 20 pages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:45:43 GMT
Well I don't really wanna romance Gil, and this news about Reyes is making me worried about him, so it's either the romance with low content that's even less polished for Scott, or nothing. *sigh* Ugh... I'm just sticking with Jaal. Their romance and main plot become one big story connected in the game and it makes sense. Reyes is a mess and Liam gets the short end of the stick. I have no other options. ...That's... unfortunate.
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Post by Salty Drell on Mar 24, 2017 15:46:26 GMT
Well I don't really wanna romance Gil, and this news about Reyes is making me worried about him, so it's either the romance with low content that's even less polished for Scott, or nothing. *sigh* Ugh... I'm just sticking with Jaal. Their romance and main plot become one big story connected in the game and it makes sense. Reyes is a mess and Liam gets the short end of the stick. I have no other options. Let's just hope the dlc or next game offers more for all of us.
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Post by justiceway on Mar 24, 2017 15:46:35 GMT
jus waitin on that DA4 announcement cuz this andromeda situation not lookin gud DA had david gaider and Patrick weekes and David gaider passed his position onto him so im sure DA will be more inclusive. It always has compared to ME
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 15:48:51 GMT
Well I don't really wanna romance Gil, and this news about Reyes is making me worried about him, so it's either the romance with low content that's even less polished for Scott, or nothing. *sigh* Ugh... I'm just sticking with Jaal. Their romance and main plot become one big story connected in the game and it makes sense. Reyes is a mess and Liam gets the short end of the stick. I have no other options. I'm stick with Liam. He may have less content but Jaal but he's adorables and my bro and that makes all the difference.
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