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Post by wangxiuming on Mar 20, 2017 8:22:02 GMT
I enjoyed your review and thoughts about the game, even though it was disappointing to hear Andromeda did not live up to expectations. Excellent video!
Because you touch upon the concept of a thesis, I had a thought. From all the marketing I've seen, what I assumed the thesis for ME:A to be was "a new beginning for Mass Effect." I assumed Bioware wanted Andromeda to essentially be a franchise reboot. Exploring a new galaxy, meeting new characters, fighting new enemies, and playing as a new protagonist seem to fit into that theme.
My question then is was it wrong to assume that was the thesis? Or is it just that the above was executed poorly?
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 20, 2017 8:22:48 GMT
Which of these three things is the tone of ME:A as a whole most comparable to: Batman V Superman, Captain America: Civil War, or Batman 1966? I don't know about the quality, but in terms of tone I guess the closest thing should be GotG.
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Post by finoderi on Mar 20, 2017 8:29:31 GMT
I think the 'thesis' is a blessing of hindsight. There was no thesis ) A bunch of talented people wanted to create something new. And then a handful of untalented abominations hoped to recreate that success, but guess what...
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Post by crom on Mar 20, 2017 8:31:16 GMT
Great review, and solid solid points. I think its a victim of the time we live in, to much forced social crap, what ever happened to sci fi's being about that and not the SJW stuff. No offense but its overly done in this game and thats my humble opinion
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Post by blueasari on Mar 20, 2017 8:32:04 GMT
Who are you and why does your opinion matter.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 20, 2017 8:33:44 GMT
Great review, and solid solid points. I think its a victim of the time we live in, to much forced social crap, what ever happened to sci fi's being about that and not the SJW stuff. No offense but its overly done in this game and thats my humble opinion Your record is stuck. Try giving it a nudge.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 20, 2017 8:34:00 GMT
Who are you and why does your opinion matter. Even the barest minimum of effort (clicking on the video, clicking on the youtube channel, clicking over to the "about" section) would tell you. But nice job dismissing a valid opinion because you don't agree with it.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 20, 2017 8:35:22 GMT
Great review, and solid solid points. I think its a victim of the time we live in, to much forced social crap, what ever happened to sci fi's being about that and not the SJW stuff. No offense but its overly done in this game and thats my humble opinion This is sad because this is exactly the kind of nonsensical criticism I didn't want to see validated becauseIt has nothing to do with what makes a game good or bad. No offence, that's just my humble opinion.
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Post by blueasari on Mar 20, 2017 8:36:19 GMT
Even the barest minimum of effort (clicking on the video, clicking on the youtube channel, clicking over to the "about" section) would tell you. But nice job dismissing a valid opinion because you don't agree with it. There are no valid opinions, just opinions.
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Post by crom on Mar 20, 2017 8:37:17 GMT
Great review, and solid solid points. I think its a victim of the time we live in, to much forced social crap, what ever happened to sci fi's being about that and not the SJW stuff. No offense but its overly done in this game and thats my humble opinion This is sad because this is exactly the kind of nonsensical criticism I didn't want to see validated becauseIt has nothing to do with what makes a game good or bad. No offence, that's just my humble opinion. Its my opinion not his, i do strongly suggest watching his video review, allot of solid points both for the game and against it
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 20, 2017 8:38:15 GMT
This is sad because this is exactly the kind of nonsensical criticism I didn't want to see validated becauseIt has nothing to do with what makes a game good or bad. No offence, that's just my humble opinion. Its my opinion not his, i do strongly suggest watching his video review, allot of solid points both for the game and against it I was talking about your opinion not his and I did watch the video.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 20, 2017 8:38:33 GMT
Even the barest minimum of effort (clicking on the video, clicking on the youtube channel, clicking over to the "about" section) would tell you. But nice job dismissing a valid opinion because you don't agree with it. There are no valid opinions, just opinions. Then by extension, there are no invalid opinions, which means the OP does not need to justify expressing it as was implied in the post you quoted.
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Post by bryanky5 on Mar 20, 2017 8:40:48 GMT
Who are you and why does your opinion matter. Because at the moment he has the game and you don't
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Post by Blackheart on Mar 20, 2017 8:43:00 GMT
Who are you and why does your opinion matter. What are you doing on forums if you don't care about opinions? What a waste of time.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 20, 2017 8:43:38 GMT
Great review, and solid solid points. I think its a victim of the time we live in, to much forced social crap, what ever happened to sci fi's being about that and not the SJW stuff. No offense but its overly done in this game and thats my humble opinion This is sad because this is exactly the kind of nonsensical criticism I didn't want to see validated becauseIt has nothing to do with what makes a game good or bad. No offence, that's just my humble opinion. And it's not even what VGS even mentioned in his review. crom is literally pulling this out of his ass.
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Post by blueasari on Mar 20, 2017 8:44:27 GMT
There are no valid opinions, just opinions. Then by extension, there are no invalid opinions, which means the OP does not need to justify expressing it as was implied in the post you quoted. He can still express his opinion even if it is not valid, we are going in circles here.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 20, 2017 8:45:15 GMT
Who are you and why does your opinion matter. Don't! Honest negative criticism should be welcomed.
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Post by blueasari on Mar 20, 2017 8:51:24 GMT
Don't! Honest negative criticism should be welcomed. I apologise to the reviewer, he thought it was a 6 which is his opinion.
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Post by rayman on Mar 20, 2017 8:52:23 GMT
Which of these three things is the tone of ME:A as a whole most comparable to: Batman V Superman, Captain America: Civil War, or Batman 1966? I don't know about the quality, but in terms of tone I guess the closest thing should be GotG. I fucking KNEW IT I made a thread months ago that I was worried it would turn out to be some cliche/quip riddled journey like GoTG and it pains me to see how right I was bsn.boards.net/thread/1432/guardians-galaxy
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 20, 2017 8:57:51 GMT
MEA seems directionless save for "Can't be in Milky Way because want to avoid it", "Finally decided to be in Andromeda instead", "Lets rehash ME1 for the nostalgic feels and to soft reboot how we treat the franchise" and "Halo is big, right? Lets get stuff from that".
To put it cynically. Thankfully the content within isn't so bad if you give it a chance, I'd wager, and I don't really think so cynically. I do, however, think this game had too rocky of a production, far more than it ever should have had. But its their baby now and I'll be watching to see if they raise it well and let it grow up, or toss it in the dumpster and hope people forget about it.
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Post by zered on Mar 20, 2017 9:10:57 GMT
Fine review thanks for posting it even if I am a bit disappointed with the game. They had so much time to polish it and instead they ship it riddled with bugs. Terrible.
I will give it a shot anyways since it still may have some great moments. Shame I preordered it tough. My bad it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 9:11:48 GMT
I don't exactly buy your complaints on characters though. ME trilogy was also notorious with cliched dialogues and bugged animations for your characters. So I feel like you just view ME trilogy through pink coloured glasses when comparing to ME:A. It feels unfair comparison. Only thing you really said is same old issues from ME trilogy are here but there are much more great moments that were rarely if not at all done in ME trilogy. This game doesn't have a thesis or a reason to really be a game. Well said sir. What is the point of ME:A?
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Post by radaway on Mar 20, 2017 9:20:05 GMT
So to add some additional info.
Like all things, give this game a try I would never recommend not trying a game outright. Here's an example of why Andromeda makes me want to claw my eyes out.
(slight spoilers)
You populate a desert planet, there is radiation. You come back later and there is not as much radiation so naturally, quest time. I meet a new faction and am given a binary choice of Be nice to them or hurt the environment.
This leads to a fight with an architect, one of the bosses in the game. 30 mninutes later, there is a sliver of health left in his leg and I glitch out and die.
IT RELOADS ME BACK IN PRODROMOS almost an hour before my death point. WHY DO THEY WANT ME TO NOT PLAY THIS GAME!
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 20, 2017 9:33:09 GMT
Also, TW3 came out. And Horizon and Zelda a few weeks before MEA. This, this a thousand times. They all raised the bar. If this same game came out in November, I hypothisize it would be at least a number higher I didnt like TW3 and havent played HZD. So by your reasoning I will like this more than you did and thats all the excuse I need, sold.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 20, 2017 9:36:58 GMT
This, this a thousand times. They all raised the bar. If this same game came out in November, I hypothisize it would be at least a number higher I didnt like TW3 and havent played HZD. So by your reasoning I will like this more than you did and thats all the excuse I need, sold. He was referring mostly to reviewers, as I was. Personal opinions varies greatly, so it's quite possible several will enjoy MEA more then some of those titles.
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