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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 23, 2017 20:57:49 GMT
Fire: Incinerate - better than Flamethrower which needs to be maintained vs firing around corners - harder settings, you'll want this.
Ice: Assault Turret - Cryo Ammo (You don't give up the range and it provides combos which I value over the short ranged flamethrower adjust and it ravages armor)
Biotic: Singularity
Any thoughts on electric primers? Only option I know of is ammo and yet it's arguably the most important primer if it works against shields.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 23, 2017 21:38:17 GMT
Biotic - Singularity
Annihilation range is way too small, and the penalty way too serious. Would not touch that crap with a 10 feet pole.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 21:45:27 GMT
+1 for Singularity as the best biotic primer.
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 23, 2017 21:47:29 GMT
I made the changes.
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 23, 2017 22:08:35 GMT
So no one has any insight on electric primers? Am I missing something?
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 23, 2017 22:19:46 GMT
So no one has any insight on electric primers? Am I missing something? It would have to be Overload or Energy Drain, I presume. |
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 23, 2017 23:06:56 GMT
So no one has any insight on electric primers? Am I missing something? It would have to be Overload or Energy Drain, I presume. Those are not primers, those are finishers. But good guess  |
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 23, 2017 23:08:10 GMT
It would have to be Overload or Energy Drain, I presume. Those are not primers, those are finishers. But good guess Energy Drain can Prime. I know because my does. Evo 5. |
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 23, 2017 23:13:27 GMT
Those are not primers, those are finishers. But good guess Energy Drain can Prime. I know because my does. Evo 5. Oh that's great! Totally missed that. Thanks. Do you happen to know if that primes with shields still on the target? All the primers I've tested only works when they're down the health or armor. |
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 23, 2017 23:16:44 GMT
Energy Drain can Prime. I know because my does. Evo 5. Oh that's great! Totally missed that. Thanks. Do you happen to know if that primes with shields still on the target? All the primers I've tested only works when they're down the health or armor. I couldn't tell you off the top of my head. I'll have to play after work and get back to you. Embarrassing to say, I honestly never tried detonating it. I really only use it to strip shields. Stupid me should've thought to throw a lance to see if I could get a tech explosion. |
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Post by acehilator on Mar 24, 2017 0:14:04 GMT
Hm, it is not listed, but I guess Overload is a primer too. At least with Charge you can trigger an electricity tech combo with it.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 24, 2017 0:57:09 GMT
I use Energy Drain as my primer, because I wanted to use Biotic Lance in my Infiltrator kit and thought it would be cool. And it is! I love it! I do believe that it does prime with shields still up, as I consistently get a "tech combo!" when I use the two together. However, if someone told me that it didn't I would believe them, because combat can be so fast paced and chaotic that I might just not be paying attention at the right time. I do believe it does, though.
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 24, 2017 0:58:42 GMT
Hm, it is not listed, but I guess Overload is a primer too. At least with Charge you can trigger an electricity tech combo with it. Overload is a finisher/detonator. |
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 24, 2017 1:00:00 GMT
I use Energy Drain as my primer, because I wanted to use Biotic Lance in my Infiltrator kit and thought it would be cool. And it is! I love it! I do believe that it does prime with shields still up, as I consistently get a "tech combo!" when I use the two together. However, if someone told me that it didn't I would believe them, because combat can be so fast paced and chaotic that I might just not be paying attention at the right time. I do believe it does, though. Oh you'll know right away on harder settings. On normal everything drops so quickly you could have the worst build in the world and just waltz through everything. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Mar 24, 2017 1:02:11 GMT
I use Energy Drain as my primer, because I wanted to use Biotic Lance in my Infiltrator kit and thought it would be cool. And it is! I love it! I do believe that it does prime with shields still up, as I consistently get a "tech combo!" when I use the two together. However, if someone told me that it didn't I would believe them, because combat can be so fast paced and chaotic that I might just not be paying attention at the right time. I do believe it does, though. Oh you'll know right away on harder settings. On normal everything drops so quickly you could have the worst build in the world and just waltz through everything. Oh I believe that. I'm guessing on my Insanity run I'm going to have to rework my whole system. But I'll be maining a different "class" for that anyway. |
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 24, 2017 1:04:28 GMT
Oh you'll know right away on harder settings. On normal everything drops so quickly you could have the worst build in the world and just waltz through everything. Oh I believe that. I'm guessing on my Insanity run I'm going to have to rework my whole system. But I'll be maining a different "class" for that anyway. My interpretation is Tech is your best tree to get started. It literally has everything you need to break down defenses. |
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Post by acehilator on Mar 24, 2017 1:48:07 GMT
Overload is a finisher/detonator. Was I being unclear? Overload first, Charge in, boom Tech Combo (with the electricity field on the ground). |
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Post by konfeta on Mar 24, 2017 2:50:56 GMT
The best primer is obviously throw. You feel like a boss when you nail someone with a Throw-Lance combo and get a biotic detonation. Skipping the throw duration upgrade is mandatory because this loses cool points.
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Post by maxzero on Mar 24, 2017 4:29:20 GMT
IMO the best primers:
Singularity: Primes versus everything but they need to stay in it.
Energy Drain with Extended Drain upgrade: Primes versus shields/health. Have to test against armour.
Incinerate: Primes versus armour/health. Extended burn and Detonate upgrades give this even more utility.
Funnily enough these are the three powers I am using for my current Hardcore and future Insanity run.
Having 3 Primers and 2 Detonators is very nice. Go Engineer and make sure to get Offensive tech because it gives huge bonuses for tech detonators.
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Post by cryptic137 on Mar 24, 2017 4:37:59 GMT
oh wow, i strongly disagree with singularity beeing the best biotic primer.
mainly because of its cooldown. i tried singularity and i tried pull and got stuck with pull.
if you want a kind of singularity you can skill an AOE pull and you got your "mini"-singularity or you can just pull the enemies to you to finish with weapons. thats kinda 2 skills in one slot.
id pick pull over singularity everytime.
im sticking to this opinion
Biotic: pull > singularity
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Post by Nightlife on Mar 24, 2017 4:44:27 GMT
Singularity's cooldown is super long yeah, AoE Pull seems to be better so far, since you can use it more often.
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Post by Detcelfer on Mar 24, 2017 4:46:22 GMT
oh wow, i strongly disagree with singularity beeing the best biotic primer. mainly because of its cooldown. i tried singularity and i tried pull and got stuck with pull. if you want a kind of singularity you can skill an AOE pull and you got your "mini"-singularity or you can just pull the enemies to you to finish with weapons. thats kinda 2 skills in one slot. id pick pull over singularity everytime. im sticking to this opinion Biotic: pull > singularity Well that's why I want this to be more of a friendly debate. I'm sure a lot of people are interested in min/maxing for harder difficulty settings. |
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Post by maxzero on Mar 24, 2017 6:37:37 GMT
oh wow, i strongly disagree with singularity beeing the best biotic primer. mainly because of its cooldown. i tried singularity and i tried pull and got stuck with pull. if you want a kind of singularity you can skill an AOE pull and you got your "mini"-singularity or you can just pull the enemies to you to finish with weapons. thats kinda 2 skills in one slot. id pick pull over singularity everytime. im sticking to this opinion Biotic: pull > singularity The problem with Pull is that it only primes unshielded and unarmoured enemies. You kill those by the dozen without breaking a sweat. Its the big guys that are the ones that kill you and they all have either shields or armour and there Pull is completely useless. |
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Post by souljahbill14 on Mar 24, 2017 10:47:58 GMT
Energy Drain can Prime. I know because my does. Evo 5. Oh that's great! Totally missed that. Thanks. Do you happen to know if that primes with shields still on the target? All the primers I've tested only works when they're down the health or armor. I can confirm that you can get Tech combos with shields still on the target primed with Energy Drain. |
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Mar 24, 2017 12:25:42 GMT
I feel this game really is missing Warp.
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