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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 31, 2017 22:28:27 GMT
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Post by henkiedepost on Mar 31, 2017 22:51:29 GMT
Being twenty two years old makes you a kid? This day and age yes, most 22 year olds are still kids Is this a personal opinion or do you have facts to back this claim up? ;p
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Post by jpcab on Mar 31, 2017 22:52:29 GMT
I could relate to Alec Ryder though..in fact and so far.. the moment Alec took off his helmet and saved his son was the thing i related most on the game yet.
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Post by setokaiba on Mar 31, 2017 22:56:45 GMT
I could relate to Alec Ryder though..in fact and so far.. the moment Alec took off his helmet and savied his son was the thing i related most on the game yet. Pfff little shit would have died if that was me "Should have picked a better helmet, son/daughter!" Joking aside I would enjoy Alec Ryder for the 5 minutes he is around. I wish they saved his death for later in the game to give it more weight.
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Post by tjmitchem on Mar 31, 2017 22:59:30 GMT
How old was Shepard at the beginning of ME1? My memory doesn't go back that far, due to how old I am Shepard's birthday was April 11, 2154. 27 as of ME1 The Ryder twins were born in 2163, making them 22 (not accounting for time in stasis) in MEA That's not much of a gap.
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Post by ravenous on Mar 31, 2017 23:14:38 GMT
this is seriously a problem, you are an adult when you are 22 years old - shoot you are an adult when you hit 18 years old. I seriously do not have a problem with it at all
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Post by colfoley on Mar 31, 2017 23:17:59 GMT
this is seriously a problem, you are an adult when you are 22 years old - shoot you are an adult when you hit 18 years old. I seriously do not have a problem with it at all if they were Jewish they'd be an adult at thirteen.
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Post by dlaren on Mar 31, 2017 23:18:01 GMT
Say what you want about Fallout 4, but at least that game matured with its audience; you played as a parent who was searching for his/her son. I turned 35 this year and even though I'm not a dad, I could still relate to the idea of searching a wasteland - even if it meant death - to find my little boy.
Mass Effect came out a decade ago and those of us who were there in the beginning are grown men & women now...
Yet Bioware decided to give us a main character who is only 22 years-old; a child leading the races of The Milky Way on a mission to find a new planet to live on is absolutely ridiculous (especially for a series that used to be rooted in reality).
We should be playing as the Parent who brought their twin children to a new galaxy -- and the twins should have been party members...it would have been amazing to bring your kids along with you on missions (imagine the banter).
Bioware missed an opportunity to do something truly unique...which is an unfortunate theme for this entire game.
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Post by ReptiloidGod on Mar 31, 2017 23:20:42 GMT
Ryder seems to be exactly 22, so this could really be me... Very nice. But I don't think I am a child.
Don't forget, Ryder isn't the only Pathfinder.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 31, 2017 23:26:35 GMT
Being twenty two years old makes you a kid? When you get to be Dracks age everyone just seems like a kid.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 31, 2017 23:36:35 GMT
Mass Effect came out a decade ago and those of us who were there in the beginning are grown men & women now... A lot of us were already grown men and women at that time. I was grown when BG1 came out. You didn't actually make a case for the "should" there. I get that you'd like it better, but someone thrust into a leadership position they're not really suited for is a tradition in fiction. Maybe Bio's used it too much, but you gotta do a little more work to make it stick.
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Post by jpcab on Mar 31, 2017 23:37:15 GMT
Say what you want about Fallout 4, but at least that game matured with its audience; you played as a parent who was searching for his/her son. I turned 35 this year and even though I'm not a dad, I could still relate to the idea of searching a wasteland - even if it meant death - to find my little boy. Mass Effect came out a decade ago and those of us who were there in the beginning are grown men & women now... We should be playing as the Parent who brought their twin children to a new galaxy -- and the twins should have been party members...it would have been amazing to bring your kids along with you on missions (imagine the banter). Bioware missed an opportunity to do something truly unique...which is an unfortunate theme for this entire game. yep..i have a bit that feeling.
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Post by osito on Mar 31, 2017 23:42:31 GMT
Jeez, I'm in my 50's. Seriously?
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Post by Puberty on Mar 31, 2017 23:51:18 GMT
This whole thread is the modern day "get off my lawn!"
But in all seriousness I do understand where you're coming from OP. I personally enjoy Ryder's personality since it makes sense to me that she would be so inexperienced and quirky. But when you're playing a game that advertises as a RPG, then you should be able to play the game how you see fit. Bioware completely removed the Role playing element where you can shape your character's personality to your desires. None of the dialogue options steer away from that inexperienced and quirky attitude. You can't make Ryder a ruthless person who will do anything to find a new world for her people, or a rebel who hates the fact that she's the new pathfinder, or a mature daughter who is eager to take on the responsibilities to be a pathfinder. It's a set personality that takes away from it being a RPG.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 31, 2017 23:53:32 GMT
Being twenty two years old makes you a kid? Being 22 and spouting dialogue of a 15 year old, makes you a kid - yes. Feel like the sex scenes shouldn't go beyond holding hands now that I think about it, to better go with the dialogue.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 31, 2017 23:57:00 GMT
Shepard's birthday was April 11, 2154. 27 as of ME1 The Ryder twins were born in 2163, making them 22 (not accounting for time in stasis) in MEA That's not much of a gap. A lot can change in those five years. The brain doesn't fully "mature" until mid-20s.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 31, 2017 23:58:08 GMT
Mass Effect came out a decade ago and those of us who were there in the beginning are grown men & women now... A lot of us were already grown men and women at that time. I was grown when BG1 came out. You didn't actually make a case for the "should" there. I get that you'd like it better, but someone thrust into a leadership position they're not really suited for is a tradition in fiction. Maybe Bio's used it too much, but you gotta do a little more work to make it stick. You didn't actually make a case for your point either. "They did this in the past, and so does everyone else" - so accept mediocrity, basically. It seems like the younger you are, the less real-world experience you've had, the less games you've played - the more you'll like Andromeda. For anyone else who's been here done that, it's obvious this game is very mediocre.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 1, 2017 0:00:26 GMT
I didn't think artistic freedom needed a justification.
And don't muddle up the age of the protagonist with any problem you have with the writing quality. That'll just confuse things.
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Post by setokaiba on Apr 1, 2017 0:00:46 GMT
Say what you want about Fallout 4, but at least that game matured with its audience; you played as a parent who was searching for his/her son. I turned 35 this year and even though I'm not a dad, I could still relate to the idea of searching a wasteland - even if it meant death - to find my little boy. Mass Effect came out a decade ago and those of us who were there in the beginning are grown men & women now... Yet Bioware decided to give us a main character who is only 22 years-old; a child leading the races of The Milky Way on a mission to find a new planet to live on is absolutely ridiculous (especially for a series that used to be rooted in reality). We should be playing as the Parent who brought their twin children to a new galaxy -- and the twins should have been party members...it would have been amazing to bring your kids along with you on missions (imagine the banter). Bioware missed an opportunity to do something truly unique...which is an unfortunate theme for this entire game. Yet you 19 in Fallout 3 and it's considered the better game by many
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Post by osito on Apr 1, 2017 0:05:13 GMT
A lot of us were already grown men and women at that time. I was grown when BG1 came out. You didn't actually make a case for the "should" there. I get that you'd like it better, but someone thrust into a leadership position they're not really suited for is a tradition in fiction. Maybe Bio's used it too much, but you gotta do a little more work to make it stick. You didn't actually make a case for your point either. "They did this in the past, and so does everyone else" - so accept mediocrity, basically. It seems like the younger you are, the less real-world experience you've had, the less games you've played - the more you'll like Andromeda. For anyone else who's been here done that, it's obvious this game is very mediocre. Sorry, but that (i.e. the idea that people who like the game are young and inexperienced) is complete and utter nonsense. I like the game, and I doubt there will be even 1% of the board membership who have played computer games for as long as I have. People like games for all kinds of personal reasons, and that doesn't make them immature or lacking in judgement.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 1, 2017 0:09:43 GMT
I'm a little tired of the kid that becomes an adult and saves the world myself. Those that have been around for a little while longer often aren't the target audience it seems. It goes hand in hand with immature writing I suppose... Weird, I'm 52 and I have zero issues with Ryder being a youngish person. I guess it goes hand in hand with the idea that gaming keeps me young.
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Post by jedidotflow on Apr 1, 2017 0:10:53 GMT
Ryder twins are over 600 years old, what are you talking about?
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 1, 2017 0:11:05 GMT
We heard the same nonsense about ME3 and ME2, come to think of it.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 1, 2017 0:13:34 GMT
You didn't actually make a case for your point either. "They did this in the past, and so does everyone else" - so accept mediocrity, basically. It seems like the younger you are, the less real-world experience you've had, the less games you've played - the more you'll like Andromeda. For anyone else who's been here done that, it's obvious this game is very mediocre. Sorry, but that (i.e. the idea that people who dislike the game are young and inexperienced) is complete and utter nonsense. I like the game, and I doubt there will be even 1% of the board membership who have played computer games for as long as I have. People like games for all kinds of personal reasons, and that doesn't make them immature or lacking in judgement. Demographics totally come into play. If you can't see the flaws in this game and how the game itself is juvenile compared to Horizon, or Zelda, or Persona - basically it's AAA peers, you are a casual gamer. Women make up almost 50% of gamers. Studies have shown that they largely prefer mobile, candy crush-style games. Men predominantly play shooters. Specifically the 18-35 demographic. Andromeda ramps up the focus on pew pew bang bang to better engage this crowd.
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