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Post by lynroy on Apr 1, 2017 18:50:46 GMT
Ooooo please do guess how old I am. Hint: It's older than 22. 23 amirite Nope. Go fish.
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Post by Neyjour on Apr 1, 2017 19:04:11 GMT
Can I just say, I'm 41 and happy to see an older crowd gamers still playing. Every once in awhile the "am I too old to still be playing video games?" That pop in my head. However I don't feel any different, except more tired than when I was 25. I don't mind that the Ryders are 22. I'm 41 as well (turning 42 in a couple of months). My husband and I have been playing RPGs for 18 years, and I don't see us stopping any time soon. The only difference is, it's much harder now to sit in a chair for hours on end. And in regards to ME:A... I'm perfectly fine with playing a 22 year-old.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 1, 2017 19:16:34 GMT
Can I just say, I'm 41 and happy to see an older crowd gamers still playing. Every once in awhile the "am I too old to still be playing video games?" That pop in my head. However I don't feel any different, except more tired than when I was 25. I don't mind that the Ryders are 22. I'm 41 as well (turning 42 in a couple of months). My husband and I have been playing RPGs for 18 years, and I don't see us stopping any time soon. The only difference is, it's much harder now to sit in a chair for hours on end. And in regards to ME:A... I'm perfectly fine with playing a 22 year-old. I'm 52, been gaming since Pong, the solution to the sitting problem is simply to get a better chair
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 1, 2017 19:26:15 GMT
Don't have an issue with teenage protagonists if they are competent and mature for their age. Enjoying the hell out of Horizon Zero Dawn right now. THAT is how you write an engaging, emotional, beautifully shot inspiring story and protagonist.
Guess I'll be getting my usual Bioware fix from every game developer I pick but Bioware now. I still haven't played MEA, so I can't comment on the full game but what I've seen on Youtube and heard from friends and coworkers is really juvenile to me. I'm 32. I'm not the only 30+ year old with that opinion. Not saying this makes my opinion any less subjective, but there are many reviews and posts online complaining about the same issues I have with the writing. So it's certainly not trolls hating on the game for no reason. There is a lot of consensus in many reviews about the game's shortcomings. I never had any issues with the writing in Bioware games until MEA.
I personally do believe that some of the divisiveness of MEA is indeed a generational thing. I never had an issue with the writing in Final Fantasy games until I was 19 or so. Suddenly it all started to feel awfully juvenile and the romances groan inducing cheesy, and so I quit JRPGs, found Mass Effect and never looked back. What one considers juvenile is of course subjective. All I can say is that if all future Bioware games have the same tone as MEA, they don't appeal to me anymore.
It would greatly sadden me personally but if more people are happy than unhappy with this new direction, then they did the right thing from a business perspective.
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Post by kino on Apr 1, 2017 19:27:31 GMT
The impression I got was of a twenty something finding his way, not a valley girl. So...not relevant. We all have opinions, none of them actually relevant to anything other than that opinion. yep, right, game about teens for teens. Pretty much what OP was saying. Except that nobody was expecting that from ME. Also, there are ways to make a "coming of age" type of game good - look at Tomb Raider series relaunch. While not perfect, it does not cause anywhere near as much cringe as Ryder (Scott in particular) does, while doing essentially the same - showing character getting into situation way over her head and having to quickly mature from spoiled brat longing for adventure into actual adventurer. hah. The thought that I must be a teen to enjoy the game is funny. It'd be difficult to be further from my teen years than I am...well, except for dead. So, no, not a "teens for teens" game at all. I liked Tomb Raider. Good game. The second one actually did character development better. Personally, I think Scott Ryder, having served in the military already, is past that kind of plot device, whereas finding his place in Andromeda as the Pathfinder fits the narrative better. But whatever. We both have different views of the game and that's cool.
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Post by House Targaryen on Apr 1, 2017 19:33:27 GMT
Damn kids. Where's the adult games?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 1, 2017 19:36:24 GMT
As someone that is in their thirties I think it is ridiculous how some of the thirty plus crowd is wearing their age like a badge of honor.
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Post by Neyjour on Apr 1, 2017 19:38:20 GMT
I'm 41 as well (turning 42 in a couple of months). My husband and I have been playing RPGs for 18 years, and I don't see us stopping any time soon. The only difference is, it's much harder now to sit in a chair for hours on end. And in regards to ME:A... I'm perfectly fine with playing a 22 year-old. I'm 52, been gaming since Pong, the solution to the sitting problem is simply to get a better chair Hehe! Yeah, a better chair (one of those nice big, padded office chairs) would probably do wonders, but damn... they're expensive.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 1, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
As someone that is in their thirties I think it is ridiculous how some of the thirty plus crowd is wearing their age like a badge of honor. How else should we wear it? But yeah, it's just a fact. And generally not an important one. It's only coming up here because people are making up age-based nonsense about the ME:A design.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 20:03:40 GMT
Don't have an issue with teenage protagonists if they are competent and mature for their age. Enjoying the hell out of Horizon Zero Dawn right now. THAT is how you write an engaging, emotional, beautifully shot inspiring story and protagonist. Guess I'll be getting my usual Bioware fix from every game developer I pick but Bioware now. I still haven't played MEA, so I can't comment on the full game but what I've seen on Youtube and heard from friends and coworkers is really juvenile to me. I'm 32. I'm not the only 30+ year old with that opinion. Not saying this makes my opinion any less subjective, but there are many reviews and posts online complaining about the same issues I have with the writing. So it's certainly not trolls hating on the game for no reason. There is a lot of consensus in many reviews about the game's shortcomings. I never had any issues with the writing in Bioware games until MEA. I personally do believe that some of the divisiveness of MEA is indeed a generational thing. I never had an issue with the writing in Final Fantasy games until I was 19 or so. Suddenly it all started to feel awfully juvenile and the romances groan inducing cheesy, and so I quit JRPGs, found Mass Effect and never looked back. What one considers juvenile is of course subjective. All I can say is that if all future Bioware games have the same tone as MEA, they don't appeal to me anymore. It would greatly sadden me personally but if more people are happy than unhappy with this new direction, then they did the right thing from a business perspective. I can see them moving further in a direction that loses my appeal altogether. Like you said, if they gain more than they lose, then maybe they made the right business move. I'm interested to learn more about what Cyberpunk 2077 is going to look like.
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Post by mrtijger on Apr 1, 2017 21:23:27 GMT
As someone that is in their thirties I think it is ridiculous how some of the thirty plus crowd is wearing their age like a badge of honor. Eh? Why? I figure the only way you dont become my age is to expire early and well, I dont find that very appealing. I'm rather happy to be 52 in good health
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Post by themikefest on Apr 1, 2017 22:11:40 GMT
I'm 52, been gaming since Pong, the solution to the sitting problem is simply to get a better chair Pong. I remember when that game was released. Hours of fun. As for a better chair. I relax on my very comfortable sofa playing for hours. excellent
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Apr 2, 2017 0:23:34 GMT
Don't have an issue with teenage protagonists if they are competent and mature for their age. Enjoying the hell out of Horizon Zero Dawn right now. THAT is how you write an engaging, emotional, beautifully shot inspiring story and protagonist. Guess I'll be getting my usual Bioware fix from every game developer I pick but Bioware now. I still haven't played MEA, so I can't comment on the full game but what I've seen on Youtube and heard from friends and coworkers is really juvenile to me. I'm 32. I'm not the only 30+ year old with that opinion. Not saying this makes my opinion any less subjective, but there are many reviews and posts online complaining about the same issues I have with the writing. So it's certainly not trolls hating on the game for no reason. There is a lot of consensus in many reviews about the game's shortcomings. I never had any issues with the writing in Bioware games until MEA. I personally do believe that some of the divisiveness of MEA is indeed a generational thing. I never had an issue with the writing in Final Fantasy games until I was 19 or so. Suddenly it all started to feel awfully juvenile and the romances groan inducing cheesy, and so I quit JRPGs, found Mass Effect and never looked back. What one considers juvenile is of course subjective. All I can say is that if all future Bioware games have the same tone as MEA, they don't appeal to me anymore. It would greatly sadden me personally but if more people are happy than unhappy with this new direction, then they did the right thing from a business perspective. Well said. Sad. But maybe it's a new game. Lots of other great games out there.
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Post by qwib on Apr 2, 2017 7:43:43 GMT
Not its not. Shepard is an experienced Soldier. Ryder is an inexperienced beginner who was never supposed to be pathfinder. People grow with their challenges. Well i know what i feel not you obviously. I bet that when i reach the end of the game i ll still think the best moment of it was Alec Ryder saving his son.Despite maybe the game didn t give that moment the importance it deserves. LoL, your thread became all kinds of ironic with this answer. :dumb:
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 2, 2017 13:55:00 GMT
I too am fine with playing a 22 year old, in an RPG, if it is in a genre I want to play.
As a 44yo about to be 45, I know that when I was a 22 year old I was alone, responsible for myself, was able to stay afloat, but was realizing rapidly I didn't know shit about the world even as I was sure I understood it better than anyone else. Fast forward 5-6 years, and I had matured a great deal. There is a huge difference in experience between early twenties and late 20s, leading to your 30s where humility becomes a little more normalized because of the volume of curve balls you've faced by then.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 2, 2017 16:59:07 GMT
I personally do believe that some of the divisiveness of MEA is indeed a generational thing. I never had an issue with the writing in Final Fantasy games until I was 19 or so. Suddenly it all started to feel awfully juvenile and the romances groan inducing cheesy, and so I quit JRPGs, found Mass Effect and never looked back. What one considers juvenile is of course subjective. All I can say is that if all future Bioware games have the same tone as MEA, they don't appeal to me anymore. What I'm seeing is more of an inverted bell curve. The writing seems to bother people in the middle more than younger and older players.
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 2, 2017 17:35:03 GMT
At my ripe old age of 26, I admit I also thought of Ryder as a kid sometimes, but I think that was also because I was playing basically a human catastrophe of over-emotional answers and quips that would make a Buffy writer blush, so Ryder sometimes felt at best 19 in my game, and not the rare mature kind that you'd want spearheading an exploration force. I wonder if those people to whom their Ryders felt significantly older or just more responsible than your stereotypical college kid chose more logical/professional conversation options. I could see that making a difference. I mean, I've met 22 year olds in real life who personality-wise could pass for 42, but my emotional/instinctive Ryder was not one of them.
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Post by kingmandu on Apr 2, 2017 19:11:13 GMT
Don't have an issue with teenage protagonists if they are competent and mature for their age. Enjoying the hell out of Horizon Zero Dawn right now. THAT is how you write an engaging, emotional, beautifully shot inspiring story and protagonist. Yikes. If HZ:D is going to become the golden standard for rpg protagonists, I'll have to stick to shooters from here on out, lol. Different strokes and all that but I'm finding her dialogue very stilted, lots of unnecessary pauses in the middle of sentences, and the constant talking to herself is really annoying. Yes, I know you're going to need this root later, that's why I picked it up. The overall story is intruiging and she does have some good remarks for the Parkinson's having npcs but I'm finding her a vastly overrated character. I think a lot of it boils down to the VA not being good at all. Totally flat and always sounds like she's lazily reading from the script instead of actually acting. Good thing the world is nice and the gameplay is solid.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 2, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
As someone that is in their thirties I think it is ridiculous how some of the thirty plus crowd is wearing their age like a badge of honor. How else should we wear it? But yeah, it's just a fact. And generally not an important one. It's only coming up here because people are making up age-based nonsense about the ME:A design. But... making up nonsense correlations is what they taught me in college! Seriously, it's the only thing I learned there. *g*
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 2, 2017 19:22:09 GMT
Don't have an issue with teenage protagonists if they are competent and mature for their age. Enjoying the hell out of Horizon Zero Dawn right now. THAT is how you write an engaging, emotional, beautifully shot inspiring story and protagonist. Yikes. If HZ:D is going to become the golden standard for rpg protagonists, I'll have to stick to shooters from here on out, lol. Different strokes and all that but I'm finding her dialogue very stilted, lots of unnecessary pauses in the middle of sentences, and the constant talking to herself is really annoying. Yes, I know you're going to need this root later, that's why I picked it up. The overall story is intruiging and she does have some good remarks for the Parkinson's having npcs but I'm finding her a vastly overrated character. I think a lot of it boils down to the VA not being good at all. Totally flat and always sounds like she's lazily reading from the script instead of actually acting. Good thing the world is nice and the gameplay is solid. Different strokes indeed. I find Aloy's voice actress great. Fits the character perfectly. I love her quiet sarcasm. Much much prefer her over Sara Ryder chirpy schoolgirl voice. It's fascinating how differently we all perceive things. To me a lot of the voice acting in MEA sounds like reading lines out of context. Totally wooden or the opposite: trying too are to be funny. Lots of badly timed long pauses between lines (that being a system issue, not VA). I like it when characters talk to themselves. I do it myself all the time...
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 2, 2017 19:41:21 GMT
I think people are taking too much stock in age here.
You got Persona 5 coming out in less than a week, a game that is getting critical acclaim across the board, that stars high school students with tangling relationships, angst, and exams they need to study for while stealing things and hunting demons.
That game, however, has a complex, darker narrative, so it therefore must be better right? The age of the protagonists is insignificant there because they act their age, but only in doses compared to the overall plot which takes them to dark places, and warps with their minds and sensibilities in the way a videogame can do that.
I think the problem is less the characters being younger or the plot being cliche, versus the tone of the game trying to be optimistic. I'm also not shocked by that, since 30 plus hours of "we're going to die" without a moment to breathe in Mass Effect 3 was a hard pill to swallow, topped off with an ending that some folks didn't enjoy because it lacked the catharsis needed to get an emotional response.
That sort of blind optimism makes sense for Andromeda in a lot of ways, except were so programmed to accept a more cynical, dark tone in everything simply by virtue of it being "better". The first Witcher game had a dark tone but it was so earnest in presenting a broken world it was a massive turn-off and was dark for darkness sake, but that didn't help the game, it hindered it.
That's not to say the tone doesn't hinder Andromeda, though, it sort of does...but it is refreshing to play something in this universe that doesn't feel like a hopeless situation...at least not yet. I guarantee the mysteries left open in Andromeda will make those clouds heavier in the sequel or the DLC...but starting off so optimistically was the only risky move Andromeda did with it's entire narrative arc...and for me it pays off at least.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 2, 2017 19:46:30 GMT
At my ripe old age of 26, I admit I also thought of Ryder as a kid sometimes, but I think that was also because I was playing basically a human catastrophe of over-emotional answers and quips that would make a Buffy writer blush, so Ryder sometimes felt at best 19 in my game, and not the rare mature kind that you'd want spearheading an exploration force. I wonder if those people to whom their Ryders felt significantly older or just more responsible than your stereotypical college kid chose more logical/professional conversation options. I could see that making a difference. I mean, I've met 22 year olds in real life who personality-wise could pass for 42, but my emotional/instinctive Ryder was not one of them. This strikes me as being a little similar to criticism against Hawke for making a joke over the Viscount's dead son, even though the dialogue is optional.
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 2, 2017 19:53:41 GMT
At my ripe old age of 26, I admit I also thought of Ryder as a kid sometimes, but I think that was also because I was playing basically a human catastrophe of over-emotional answers and quips that would make a Buffy writer blush, so Ryder sometimes felt at best 19 in my game, and not the rare mature kind that you'd want spearheading an exploration force. I wonder if those people to whom their Ryders felt significantly older or just more responsible than your stereotypical college kid chose more logical/professional conversation options. I could see that making a difference. I mean, I've met 22 year olds in real life who personality-wise could pass for 42, but my emotional/instinctive Ryder was not one of them. This strikes me as being a little similar to criticism against Hawke for making a joke over the Viscount's dead son, even though the dialogue is optional. Well, you gotta play your character some way, though, right? If you go the roleplaying route and not the "this character makes my decisions" route. I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing Pathfinder can seem juvenile, just that's definitely there if you stay consistent with one side of the conversation options. And not to rag on the conversation option system too much, but even Hawke usually had three choices, Ryder mostly only gets two. The variations are not exactly endless.
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Post by SilentK on Apr 2, 2017 22:11:31 GMT
At my ripe old age of 26, I admit I also thought of Ryder as a kid sometimes, but I think that was also because I was playing basically a human catastrophe of over-emotional answers and quips that would make a Buffy writer blush, so Ryder sometimes felt at best 19 in my game, and not the rare mature kind that you'd want spearheading an exploration force. I wonder if those people to whom their Ryders felt significantly older or just more responsible than your stereotypical college kid chose more logical/professional conversation options. I could see that making a difference. I mean, I've met 22 year olds in real life who personality-wise could pass for 42, but my emotional/instinctive Ryder was not one of them. I have enjoyed playing my 1) emotional and 2) professional Sara Ryder a lot, it was a very nice combination. Have been tinkering a little with a professional and logical PT and I liked the difference. Just seeing clips of the game but not putting it into context when it comes to what kind of Ryder you are playing could be misleading.
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