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Post by mordivier on Apr 4, 2017 7:21:52 GMT
It would seem to fit. The merging of SAM with the Pathfinder is a form of synthesis. Not entirely the same, but close enough. Not only that but "Andromeda Initiative" is "AI". I thought that was interesting.
Thoughts?
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 7:47:38 GMT
It seems rather obvious that Synthsis was supposed to be the "good" ending according to BW. So maybe. Destroy is the only good ending that matters!  |
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Post by fraggle on Apr 4, 2017 7:58:17 GMT
I immediately thought the same. The synthetic-organic friendship/relationship was a big topic in ME3 and I thought right away that they now put their synthesis ending into MEA. Wasn't too keen on it, but I guess ultimately an AI is the only chance to mess around with remnant tech noone understands.
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Post by NRieh on Apr 4, 2017 9:33:37 GMT
To be honest, I find the returning of all that 'synthetics vs organics' BS really annoying. And as to make it even worse, SAM has some talks about 'strenghts of all, weaknesses of none'. Looks like a Chekhov's Avenger X to me, lol.
Anyway, I've had enough of that shit in MET. I hope I won't end up with the plot of Remnants killing the organics so that they don't create synthetics.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 4, 2017 9:38:44 GMT
I hope I won't end up with the plot of Remnants killing the organics so that they don't create synthetics. If Bioware has the balls to do this, I will start a new religion focusing on Bioware. |
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Post by NRieh on Apr 4, 2017 10:03:03 GMT
If Bioware has the balls to do this, I will start a new religion focusing on Bioware. Aren't you already a member of the glorious BW religion? Religion? I've always thought of it as a diagnosis...  |
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 4, 2017 10:03:34 GMT
If Bioware has the balls to do this, I will start a new religion focusing on Bioware. Aren't you already a member of the glorious BW religion? There's no such thing yet. |
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Post by Archangel on Apr 4, 2017 10:06:32 GMT
It seems rather obvious that Synthsis was supposed to be the "good" ending according to BW. So maybe. Came to this thread to post this. |
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Post by Archangel on Apr 4, 2017 10:08:40 GMT
It seems rather obvious that Synthsis was supposed to be the "good" ending according to BW. So maybe. Destroy is the only good ending that matters! Refusal is the most realistic ending...screw human exceptionalism. 20,000 cycles and suddenly humans save the Galaxy.
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Post by mastert on Apr 4, 2017 10:19:14 GMT
Control is best ending
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Post by osito on Apr 4, 2017 10:37:40 GMT
Damn synthetic justice warriors!
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 4, 2017 10:52:46 GMT
Is this even a question? And no, Bioware is never indirect in showing their preferences and shoving their "morals" down other people's throat.  |
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 4, 2017 11:03:23 GMT
Destruction is the best and the most canonical of all endings. The rest was just added for illusion of choice as well as for the lulz just to see how many carebears and ppl that mindlessly pick blue answers there are.
In that moment no sane person would listen and believe an AI that was destroying civilizations for millions of years and has his very own survival depending on whether or not "destroy" ending is chosen. So there is only one right thing to do there: *pow-pow-pow*
But yeah, I can clearly see the usual agenda of BW trying to shove a green ending into players throats for... reasons...
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 4, 2017 12:18:46 GMT
EAWare and the Synthesis ending should really get a room....
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Post by ravenous on Apr 4, 2017 13:24:02 GMT
the whole Sam bonded at a deeper level with Ryder to the point that even trying to remove Sam from Ryder would kill them just screams to me that bioware see's the Synthetic Ending of ME3 canon
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 4, 2017 13:26:50 GMT
Honestly, I don't mind the way it's done here, but that's because it's not so much space magic-y to some solve bullshit problem as it's mainly one man's hard work motivated curing his dying wife.
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Post by Steelcan on Apr 4, 2017 13:34:18 GMT
indirectly?
They're all but spelling it out
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 4, 2017 13:36:26 GMT
Honestly, I don't mind the way it's done here, but that's because it's not so much space magic-y to some solve bullshit problem as it's mainly one man's hard work motivated curing his dying wife. I agree it is framed better in MEA but I hope that isn't the path they are going down again. Last time we had all the build up and then... Well I like to pretend ME3 ended at TIM's death and treat the RBG endings like I do Superman IV. What Superman IV you might ask? Exactly. Besides the only real ending to ME3 is the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod.  |
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Post by helios969 on Apr 4, 2017 14:00:15 GMT
Not really. Transhumanism has always been a strong theme in the ME universe. Unlike the contrived mess of synthesis, SAM was well integrated into MEA. It's a good stepping stone for the next stage of evolution in Andromeda, but also opens up a whole lot of potential conflict moving forward between pro and anti AI factions.
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Post by Turian Werewolf on Apr 4, 2017 14:06:43 GMT
I don't know that they're passive-aggressively favoring the synthesis ending (which sucks), so much as attempting to explore the topic with more competency from the ground level.
I don't mind it in MEA because, as others have noted, it feels organic to the story as opposed to some left field plot twist.
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Post by Steelcan on Apr 4, 2017 14:33:19 GMT
I don't know that they're passive-aggressively favoring the synthesis ending (which sucks), so much as attempting to explore the topic with more competency from the ground level. I don't mind it in MEA because, as others have noted, it feels organic to the story as opposed to some left field plot twist. they aren't really exploring the subject, SAM's connection with Ryder is not really up for critique except by cartoonish villains in a side quest and the occasional remark from Drack. its presented largely and uncritically as a subjective good. |
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Post by Eshaye on Apr 4, 2017 14:42:34 GMT
It would seem to fit. The merging of SAM with the Pathfinder is a form of synthesis. Not entirely the same, but close enough. Not only that but "Andromeda Initiative" is "AI". I thought that was interesting. Thoughts? I honestly has a similar thought. And it makes me ill. I first went Synthesis on my first playthrough of ME3 and had instant regret. While I agree that AIs and organics can live together I just saw synthesis as an abomination, much like .... What happens with the Kett Ughhh, sure it's not the same it's supposed to be a perfect merge while retaining yourself but meh, I just don't believe it. There's just something really off about it all. I'm getting kind of afraid of finishing MEA tbh. |
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Post by Eshaye on Apr 4, 2017 14:46:25 GMT
Anyway, I've had enough of that shit in MET. I hope I won't end up with the plot of Remnants killing the organics so that they don't create synthetics. I will officially be done with Mass Effect entirely if this is what happens. ><;; |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 4, 2017 14:50:17 GMT
indirectly? They're all but spelling it out QFT |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 4, 2017 14:52:20 GMT
I don't know that they're passive-aggressively favoring the synthesis ending (which sucks), so much as attempting to explore the topic with more competency from the ground level. I don't mind it in MEA because, as others have noted, it feels organic to the story as opposed to some left field plot twist. they aren't really exploring the subject, SAM's connection with Ryder is not really up for critique except by cartoonish villains in a side quest and the occasional remark from Drack. its presented largely and uncritically as a subjective good. Given it even happens to Ryder unknowingly and in order to "save" him/her, all we're missing is the glowing green eyes and skin circuitry. |
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