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Post by Ianamus on Apr 26, 2017 13:14:21 GMT
People really think this looks better than her final model?
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 26, 2017 13:00:30 GMT
That Liam image is literally a stock photo with low quality visor clip art superimposed over it. Jaal and Drack look like generic species concept art, and Vetra is just using Nyreens image.
It's all placeholder stuff used for UI concept with the exception of Cora's model, which looks really unpolished and isn't that great.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 25, 2017 23:34:22 GMT
I assumed the same thing as you OP, that Keelah Si'yah means 'By the homeworld we hope to find' or something along those those lines, as they trying to find a new a home in Andromeda. Or maybe something like 'By the homeworld we will never forget', signifying that they no longer plan to see their homeworld again, but to remember it as they move forward. As for "Esu se'lai", I think it was a farewell, and probably means something like "I hope to see you again some day". I hope when the quarian ark dlc comes, assuming it does eventually come, that we get exact translations and some more new phrases. Wait, where do you hear in the game "Esu se'lai"? Unless I blatantly missed it somewhere... After the epilogue, the human woman who was raised on the migrant fleet says it when you return to Meridian later and speak to her. That's also when she gives more details about her background.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 25, 2017 14:40:09 GMT
I assumed the same thing as you OP, that Keelah Si'yah means 'By the homeworld we hope to find' or something along those those lines, as they are trying to find a new a home in Andromeda. Or maybe something like 'By the homeworld we will never forget', signifying that they no longer plan to see their homeworld again, but to remember it as they move forward.
As for "Esu se'lai", I think it was a farewell, and probably means something like "I hope to see you again some day".
I hope when the quarian ark dlc comes, assuming it does eventually come, that we get exact translations and some more new phrases.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 23, 2017 20:00:05 GMT
Your point being? That doesn't suddenly mean Scott can only romance 1 female. As for the amount of content not being equal welcome to every other demographic. Unless you're gonna say Liam and Jaal got equal treatment. I'm not even going to start on that Vivienne comment let's just say we disagree and leave it at that. What I meant is that I'm ok with them making an African-looking female LI in any of their games unless she is the only human female avaliable for romance. Why? We had a game where the only male human LI was black, and no-one complained then. We also had a game where all of the LI's were asian, and plenty where the only female humans were white.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 23, 2017 19:56:30 GMT
Why do you have to specify "african american"? Is there something wrong with just saying black? It always annoys me when people use it in contexts where it makes no sense, like this one. Why can't they be european, canadian or, you know, just african?
On topic though, I would like to see them add a female black LI to ME or Dragon Age at some point.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 23, 2017 14:22:12 GMT
I personally wish they'd do away with sex scenes that explicitly define roles, period, regardless of the genders/sexes involved. Even in the m/f or f/m romances, BioWare loves their heteronormativity, and that means aggressive males and damsel-in-distress females. I'm inclined to agree. There are multiple reasons why Iron Bull was a hard pass for me, but a big one was the "I'M 100% TOP I'MMA DOMINATE U" and the kind of... flippant, almost kind of offensive way he responds if you indicate you want to "top" too (I romanced him with my Shitquisitor so I could criticize properly lolol). Dorian is hinted to be a bottom, but it's at least subtle enough that you could headcanon vers. Honestly, nothing could have turned me off a romance more than that stuff with Bull did. I'm not particularly into that or into BDSM in general, and the entire romance revolved around it. I remember a great, if crude, quote I saw about it on the forums: "why would I want a romance that revolves around how my Inquisitor is bulls bottom bitch?".
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 23, 2017 0:39:39 GMT
Quarian, no question. I've wanted a male quarian LI ever since I met them in ME2. A turian or drell would be great as well, but this is something I've been pining for for a long time. Maybe they could go the extra mile and make it Lemm from ascension? We never did find out what happened to the guy, and I loved that book.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 23, 2017 0:27:37 GMT
Well.. No. But I still liked your theory about it. The problem is BW said there is no canon, so there's no fate it could tell you. Plus, one of the endings is actually refuse, so about that first paragraph of yours... IMO, I think it's being attacked by a) Geth that Infiltrated (But geth don't infiltrate, thanks Legion ) A lone Reaper that decided to hunt by all means the Quarian Ark and they both get hit by the Scourge, so the Quarians send that signal to prevent anyone being indocrinated, but what they don't know is that the Reaper lost its capability because of the Scourge/interference or possibly for the black hole c)The Quarian Ark SAM. Maybe some Quarians are shocked by their Pathfinder having an AI in his/her head and managed to sabotage it, but it caused some problems, like the Geth. So, that makes trouble for the Pathfinder and you eventually decide on his/her fate, just like the other three.d)Remnant ships e)Kett Ships, just like the Salarian Ark, but that can be discarded since IMO they are going for something original here. f)Unknown Either way, I bet the Scourge will of course be involved. I hadn't actually thought about the implications of a quarian SAM before. We know they have a pathfinder but this detail never crossed my mind. I suppose one means of getting the geth into andromeda would be if the quarian SAM had some geth code integrated into it. It would make sense that they would upgrade their AI like the humans did, given it's their area of expertise. I'd imagine that those willing to accept an AI onto their ark would be the less AI-skeptic ones as well. But that would work better as a sideplot than the primary conflict on the ark. I'd rather not see another "geth vs quarian" story, just as I'd rather not see another reaper story.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 21, 2017 21:04:12 GMT
I look forward to seeing what they add when more milky way species appear. Especially if both the quarians and geth end up becoming a part of the initiative. Seeing how they manage to sugar-coat that one should be interesting.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 21, 2017 20:59:51 GMT
That figure only covers US sales though, doesn't it?
If they sold 1.3m in the US I'm sure they made at least 3.0m sales globally.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 21, 2017 12:42:48 GMT
Wow, do you have any source? This makes me happy for some reason (if it's true) Link.Same stats for basically all platforms and all regions if you search it by yourself, too lazy to link them all. It also was selling worse (first two weeks-wise) than ME2 and ME3 across all platforms, outselling only ME1 which was Xbox 360 exclusive at that time and was an unknown game, first of the series. Wow, a popular kickstarter game sold more in it's first week of release than a month old game. Such a shock! /s Besides, the figures we have are only tracking physical sales. To compare them to the other ME games, which were released 5+ years ago, isn't going to provide accurate results. Physical sales are much less common now than they were then. In fact, the "physical" PC version of Andromeda in stores was just a download code. I'd be happy to talk statistics if we had digital and physical sales figures. But we don't.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 15:50:27 GMT
Theres not gonna be any squadmates. Theres no code on the disk, and itneeds it for permanent ones. Why does this matter? They can just alter the squadmate code in a patch that's released alongside or before the DLC.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 14:23:18 GMT
4% was the percentage of male respondents who romanced Gil. If we look at the respondents in the attractiveness rating section we see that there are around ~200 gay or bi male respondents and 800 straight male respondents. So it seems that around 20% of the male respondents are gay or bi. Not every completed that section though, so that may be slightly inaccurate. And Cora goes down 7% between male statistic and overall statistic. And Male bisexuals are overwhelmingly going for squadmates - Cora, Peebee, Vetra before even considering gay romances. You're trying your hardest selectively cherrypicking stats to say "Gil is low 'cause people don't like him" and ignore that Reyes is even lower in gay-male breakdown and that squadmates are overwhelmingly more popoular among bi men. Weak attempt as hell. Did you read my other posts? I did a whole breakdown on the fact that bisexual men overwhelmingly chose female LI's and why, going into detail about both him and Reyes. I was just pointing out that comparing Suvi's numbers to Gils when there are two f/f squadmates is an awful comparison if you're trying to argue that Gil's stats aren't trash.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 14:10:29 GMT
It's not surprising at all. Every person who starts a new game in Mass Effect 3 as male Shepard has him dead by default, and even if he's alive he doesn't become playable until halfway through the game. We're talking about a romance survey where 7% of respondents are gay and 16% are bi. 4% is an undeniably poor showing, whether you like him or not. And we're also talking a survey with massive overrepresentation of female players. You're trying to be very selective which stats you see and suit you and which don't 4% was the percentage of male respondents who romanced Gil. If we look at the respondents in the attractiveness rating section we see that there are around ~200 gay or bi male respondents and 800 straight male respondents. So it seems that around 20% of the male respondents are gay or bi. Not every completed that section though, so that may be slightly inaccurate.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 13:57:48 GMT
Actually I will. Here's our #1 near-canon ideal space husbando with perfect voice, face and squadmate status with endless fanfics and fanart and how he fares in general gaming stats: 1.5%Let it sink in. It's not surprising at all. Every person who starts a new game in Mass Effect 3 as male Shepard has him dead by default, and even if he's alive he doesn't become playable until halfway through the game. We're talking about a romance survey where 7% of respondents are gay and 16% are bi. 4% is an undeniably poor showing, whether you like him or not.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 13:33:47 GMT
Shame about Gil, but it gives me some small hope Reyes may get more content and expanded further as a character in future DLC and games. Not surprised by Peebee, happy lots enjoy her character, since she has canyons more depth than Cora IMO Genuinely surprised by the response to Liam, and also surprised overall Reyes is more popular than Jaal Thanks for sharing! Gil has the same numbers as lesbian-exclusive Suvi. And even Liam lol. No clue where is this "shame about Gil" sentiment coming unless some folks convinced themselves gay men make up for 30% audience of Mass Effect. No, we never did If you feel bad about Gil don't look at Reyes statistics for male players. Or do and be less surprised next time when Reyes animations are clearly designed for Sara given how much more female players romance him versus males Did you read the statistics for homosexual female players? Peebee 50% Vetra 30%. Or female bisexual players? Peebee 17%, Vetra 12% That's why Suvi's are so low, because she was in direct competition with two squadmates. Considering Gil is the "main" m/m option and the only one on the Tempest, his statistics are abysmal. More bisexual men romanced Jaal than Gil and he's only an option for Sara!
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 13:23:09 GMT
And to me it says more about bisexual males. Looks to me like they much prefer women (hey, looks like BW is actually portraying bi-men correctly!). As for "the only competition for Reyes is Jaal and he is an alien" - as a straight woman I can assure you, "alien" is a bonus here, yet, Reyes beats even that advantage. He is just that well written. In the linked post you can find another link to predictions of LI popularity from some screenwriter (with a scary predictions about Reyes, btw): https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/63vgcz/mea_spoilersromance_and_screentime_or_why_most/ Good reading with good explanations. In general that writer is agree with you about screen time, but talks much as well about quality of the writing. Being an alien can be a bonus. I vastly prefer alien LI's myself, but I'm sure you can agree that Jaal's naked appearance is... divisive, at best. I can certainly see why a lot of women would not be interested in that and would prefer a human option. Reyes isn't badly written, but he's nothing exceptional either. He just embodies a lot of the tropes that make certain people swoon. Charming rogue, fighting against a seemingly corrupt authority, mysterious 'bad boy' attitude but you can be the one to "change" him... Yeah, It's not hard to see why he's popular. But it's less him being super well-written and more Liam, his counterpart, having considerably worse writing. I don't agree at all with your assumptions about the bisexual men involved in the survey. There are so many other factors at work, like the complete lack of male squadmates for Scott, and lack of any alien m/m LI's at all. I certainly don't think it's fair to chalk it down to the players in question preferring women when there's such an obvious disparity between the male and female options on offer. You just said yourself that many players prefer aliens, and we all know squadmates are more popular. I can only speak for myself, but I'm a bisexual male player and I don't prefer women, but I have no interest in romancing Gil or Reyes. Because they aren't squadmates, don't have much content and I prefer alien romances.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 12:53:56 GMT
Reyes and Liam are the outsiders, though. And only among women. For all of the LI's available to Scott there's a clear correlation between content and popularity. Reyes popularity among straight women is the only thing that surprised me. But when you get down to it his only real competition is Jaal, the most alien looking of all the LI's, and Liam, the most unpopular of all the LI's. It wouldn't surprise me if his popularity with women is solely due to being the only decent human option they have in their eyes. When compared with the female squadmates Reyes doesn't hold his ground at all, given that bisexual male players rated him second among all Li's in terms of attractiveness but only 5% actually completed his romance. And even if it is all about individual characters and not content, the fact that bisexual guys are more likely to play Sara and romance Suvi than go for one of Scotts m/m options shows that something went very wrong somewhere. To be fair Bioware screwed up m/m Reyes animations. and Gil in general IMO, is a dissapointment. That being said Bioware did say they were improving the romance options, so let's see what will happen, at least they aknowledged they were bad. True, but most players probably didn't know that his animations were poor before they even played the romance. It's something we discovered in hindsight, but how many male players planned on romancing Reyes but changed their mind because of animations? I wouldn't think it's that many. I agree about Gil. I try to avoid talking about him because whenever I do the Gil brigade come and jump down my throat, but these statistics say it all.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 12:39:28 GMT
What I find most interesting is how few of the male players who identified as bisexual actually romanced the male romance options. And that's exactly what I pointed out to the devs a while back. When we have romance options like Vetra, Cora and Peebee why would I stoop to a character with as little content as Gil? I romanced Vetra in my playthrough, so I fall in line with those statistics as well. It's the perfect way to tell if they are putting enough effort into the m/m options. If only 10% of bisexual players are choosing the male options it's a pretty strong indicator they aren't the same level of quality. And I think your interpretation has a flaw: Reyes has next to nothing content compare to Jaal or Liam, now look how popular he is with heterosexual women - Reyes (41.5%) Jaal (39.3%) Liam (9.6%). It's all about the character itself, not the amount of content. Reyes and Liam are the outsiders, though. And only among women. For all of the LI's available to Scott there's a clear correlation between content and popularity. Reyes popularity among straight women is the only thing that surprised me. But when you get down to it his only real competition is Jaal, the most alien looking of all the LI's, and Liam, the most unpopular of all the LI's. It wouldn't surprise me if his popularity with women is solely due to being the only decent human option they have in their eyes. When compared with the female squadmates Reyes doesn't hold his ground at all, given that bisexual male players rated him second among all Li's in terms of attractiveness but only 5% actually completed his romance. And even if it is all about individual characters and not content, the fact that bisexual guys are more likely to play Sara and romance Suvi than go for one of Scotts m/m options shows that something went very wrong somewhere.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 12:12:48 GMT
I just realised that according to those statistics more male bisexual players romanced romanced Suvi and Jaal, who are only available to Sara, than Gil and Reyes. That's pretty shocking, but I can't say I'm surprised because honestly I'd rather do those romances as well, even though I generally don't play female characters in Bioware games.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 19, 2017 12:04:15 GMT
Anyone see this? I know surveys don't hold much weight here, but I still found this one detailed and interesting https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/668o0r/mea_spoilers_mass_effect_andromeda_romance_survey/ What I find most interesting is how few of the male players who identified as bisexual actually romanced the male romance options. And that's exactly what I pointed out to the devs a while back. When we have romance options like Vetra, Cora and Peebee why would I stoop to a character with as little content as Gil? I romanced Vetra in my playthrough, so I fall in line with those statistics as well. It's the perfect way to tell if they are putting enough effort into the m/m options. If only 10% of bisexual players are choosing the male options it's a pretty strong indicator they aren't the same level of quality.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 18, 2017 15:31:20 GMT
You know it's funny they talked a lot about being like the witcher 3 in prerelease. So straight (and white) centric was their goal all along. Witcher games dont appeal to me but if they're repetitive open worlds and mostly fetch quests then mystery solved. Mass Effect Andromeda is many things, but "white centric" is not one of them. Cora, Suvi and Addison are the only plot relevant white characters in the game. I can't think of any others, anyway.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 18, 2017 15:17:27 GMT
Gil. Shepard modified the Normandy because it wouldnt hold up as it was. Ken and Gabby Adams EDI teamed up to modify the Normandy. EDI modified herself as the mission changed. The Geth upgraded their guns. Its just what you do. But that was groups of people coming up with improvements together, running them by each other and their superiors and then implementing them. Not one guy changing whatever he wants whenever he feels like it.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 18, 2017 14:45:15 GMT
This is a good summary, I agree with all of it. I'm the same, all I really want is a gay (or even bi) male alien squadmate who was intended to be that and written as that from the beginning. Bit that doesnt fit into a small, neat provocative hashtag. I just hope that when the quarian ark dlc comes out, if it ever comes out, theres a male quarian charater I really like and can campaign for LI status for them. I just don't have the passion for any of the existing male characters to do that. For what it's worth, a Quarian from the ark when we finally get to it would be my ideal, too. I've seen it tossed around a lot here. If there was a way to streamline that suggestion and amplify it on other platforms, I would totally support it. I think it would get a lot of support as an alternative to the two suggestions we have, and it's a lot more likely than Jaal. Exactly! It's probably going to be the first bunch of new content we get, it will include loads of new aliens and a new pathfinder, and Tali was very popular among both players and the devs. Adding male and female quarian flirt options, at the very least, would make so much sense. It's more likely and less controversial than Jaal, and would make the people who want an alien option happy. If the characters are popular they could return in future dlc or a sequel. I'm not really a fan of twitter or hashtag movements, but if anyone has an idea of a name and wants to start things this is something I'd be more than happy to promote on other platforms as well.
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