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Post by Dirk on Mar 31, 2017 0:26:07 GMT
I'd trade anyone for Avitus. It's a crime that Avitus is not part of the squad! Agreed. He's an ex-spectre and would surely be a valuable asset. I was hoping that if he didn't become a pathfinder, he would be a squadmate.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 20:13:49 GMT
Saw this on Reddit: Angara mating ritual.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 19:01:28 GMT
Yeah, that's one thing I really dislike about the DA series, and I've even commented on the old boards that the only gay NPC interaction in DAI was revolved solely around Dorian, while there were a number of important or named lesbian NPCs in the game. If there's one thing MEA did right with gay males over the DA series, it was definitely adding them as NPCs, especially Avitus, though I also liked the little bit with Ignacius. This is about romances, though, not about gay representation as a whole. Dragon Age does have issues with that, as do most games in existence. But again, this is about the romance options. Yep. I think some here misunderstand the complaints. Most people who complain are happy with LGB representation in ME:A (T still leaves much to be desired). m/m romance options are the main issue for them.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 18:57:39 GMT
I sometimes find myself mashing square hoping that it'll somehow skip the long ass traveling cutscenes... yeah, I'm that desperate. I did the same thing with space. I love you Reyes but your stupid mission requiring me to read my email makes me rage. I DIDN'T EVEN LEAVE THE PLANET BUT I STILL GET BS LEAVING THE PLANET SCREEN. Considering the technology in ME, I find it unbelievable that you can't check your email while you are on a planet.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 9:28:48 GMT
I am actually glad that they neglect to put the romance check for Gil and Reyes. But if I have to choose one, I will go for Gil. Reyes is great and all, but a guy with a good heart like Gil always wins me over. I can't make him sad like this:
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 8:56:48 GMT
You can do both Gil and Reyes romance in one playthrough. Honestly...I might just do that if I can't stay away from him...I'd feel guilty about it...but he is just too wonderful to not romance. I am going to romance both in every Scott playthrough unless other gay options come up in the future or they patch it up. It's like ME3 where I romance Kaidan again and again lol.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 8:26:28 GMT
Er...Dragon Age has rarely featured actual gay characters outside of the main cast (only Dorian). It's quite unfair to compare ME to DA. ME1 came out before BioWare's 1st m/m coupling in DAO which had its romance involve a bisexual elven sex-addict who strongly preferred women and frequently mentioned it. It wasn't til DA2 which also came after ME2 where BioWare began having significant m/m content in the form of "playersexuality". The argument for ME2 was that Shepard had already been "established" at that point. It could have been a reasonable one too. I'm glad they broke it with ME3, which had BioWare's first actual gay (m/m) character in the cast as well as a much-wanted coupling in the form of a m/m romance with Kaidan. Where's your context people? People keep mentioning the squad mate thing. Checking the videos, romance content is similar across most romances (Reyes gets the most flirts...). If you're conflating romance content with NPC content, then that's just your perspective. Would it be nice if Gil was a squad member? Absolutely. It doesn't dilute from his romance nor does it make it any less important just because he's not your combatant co-worker. There's still character and romance development. Aren't those what matter? Beyond Gil and Reyes, MEA has a gay Turian power couple, a guy crushing on Gil, and messages between a gay human couple in the first 10 hours of the game. That's only the m/m content. There's a whole lot of f/f content (more than straight female characters get) Still, all people can do is fixate on is the softcorn porn scenes. I would've liked those too but are those really the measuring stick we go by now? I understand where people coming from, but I have to say I'm kinda disappointed. Bioware already had m/m romance in Jade Empire. Not that good one, but ME has always been dragging behind. Now it has regressed from ME3, even by it's own standards it didn't do well. I have to really disagree with this crewmates are as important as squadmates. This has been already discussed on romance thread a lot, but Gil has less flirt prompts than other romances. Cora had 15, I think Peebee and Vetra 10, Jaal 8.. Liam had 5 from what I remember. Also his face is preset 3's from CC. He can be great crewmate yes, but he's not as important and given as much content as squadmates as character. Softporn scenes are one complaint, but mostly it's about lack of m/m squadmate and alien romance and there being unfair balance. Even if you see Gil as equal romance to squaddies Reyes isn't. I prefer voicing my complaints on the current state in ME:A so that they know that it is not fine that ME is dragging behind. They better catch up with DA. One of the biggest complaints is the number of m/m romance. Other complaints are nicely explained (without drama) in the letters to Bioware thread, if anyone interested in why people are complaining.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 3:31:59 GMT
Have anyone taken this option?
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 2:52:13 GMT
I started a new game plus to complete the Reyes romance but...it's going to be very hard to resist Gil! I'll feel so guilty flirting with him and not taking it anywhere! I love him too much to not flirt though! You can do both Gil and Reyes romance in one playthrough.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 2:50:34 GMT
I have a gut feeling that bi Jaal is not going to happen. They probably are going to address bugs, CC and animations first because these issues affect everyone (in some varying degrees). Not sure about whether they will say anything about future DLCs or not.
I just hope for acknowledgement of issues and reducing the achievement requirement to 2 romances.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 2:32:00 GMT
I don't care if you want hybrid babies. That's fine on you. My issue is that people started claiming things about the game when there wasn't even any evidence to suggest it in game. Seriously, I wasted a good half an hour trying to find evidence of the cross species babies in game. If Bioware wanted to write in cross species hybrid babies as a potential canon, well that's just clusterfuck writing on their half And it's fine if you don't want them really, different opinions make the world go round and all that jazz. I've just found that I can't really use science to defend half of what Bioware does with Mass Effect, it's been more of a space fantasy to me for a long time. I wasn't attacking you if that's what you thought. As for Dirk I don't see why that wouldn't be possible either, in fact I'm not against it. I feel that a good writer can make the stupidest shit gold. I mean who ever thought a 4 foot tall hobbit that had to drop some magic ring in a volcano would become so beloved. I find it probable that ME team would be able to come up with a reason to exclude gay people from the space baby magic thing. Seriously my trust in ME team regarding m/m contents is quite low.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 2:21:59 GMT
If Bioware is going for space hybrid baby magic thing, they'd better be damn sure to make it work for same sex couples. All the babies got all the gays. You have your happy families, you've earned it. Nah, I am building space-magic baby armies to conquer Andromeda.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 2:17:17 GMT
If Bioware is going for space hybrid baby magic thing, they'd better be damn sure to make it work for same sex couples.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 30, 2017 0:31:15 GMT
Not exactly romance related, Bioware just posted this on Twitter.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 23:52:10 GMT
Did we ever clear up the Meridian/Hybrid baby thing up? I've finished the main story now and still have no idea how we thought that was a possibility As far as i know its never mentioned in-game, not sure where people got that from. If you romance Jaal his mother sends you emails asking about kids, but i don't believe its ever suggested its actually possible? Thank the Maker, the hybrid baby is not the case. Every time I hear "hybrid baby" I think of Crawlers in Dead Space 2 (don't Google it lol).
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 23:07:41 GMT
I am fine with people not interested in a gay character because a character is gay. I mean I can't control how or why people hate or like a character. People not liking a character does not affect me or change the fact that I like/don't like this character. It's not about right or wrong. It's just preference. If we talk about actual persons, it might be a different story. But Liam is just a character. For me character's sexual orientation is very important. In general I am more interested in LGBT+ characters, and I see nothing wrong with this preference. Honestly like this is what I love. By any chance, did you like Dorian? Some lgbt People really didn't like that his sexual preference played a big part in his personal mission. On the other hand, I feel like if a straight person came in here and said that they lost interest in Suvi because she was a lesbian, they would be called a troll and attacked for saying that. I am fine with Dorian. He's not in my top 5 characters in DA, but he's still in my top 10. I don't mind his personal mission. It's not bad, but it's not amazing either. My favorite DA romance is still male pro-mage Hawke/Anders. Well people do what they do. I am not responsible if they get attacked for whatever reason they like/dislike a character.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:51:55 GMT
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:45:07 GMT
It's sweet, but kinda silly if you're playing a bi Ryder. "Whoever you end up with is a lucky dude" - Ryder goes and hooks up with Cora... It reminds me of DA2 when Anders flirted with you and the only options were to flirt back or give him a subtle "no homo". Um... what if I like guys but just aren't interested in flirting him? Or, you know, want to romance Fenris? -,- This 100x!! This problem is something that Bioware needs to work for future games, the thing is how the game can know that your character is bisexual? that I have no idea :/ What would work better is having the game making less assumptions about your character and allowing more freedom for the player to role play.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:35:16 GMT
I was ready to be a Liam fan boy, but then he's revealed as straight, and my interest in him just died. So you'll be fine with people that lose interest in a character if they're gay? Let's just forget about the character as a person to learn more about, but focus more on their sexual preference because that is a big part of them, right or wrong? I am fine with people not interested in a gay character because a character is gay. I mean I can't control how or why people hate or like a character. People not liking a character does not affect me or change the fact that I like/don't like this character. It's not about right or wrong. It's just preference. If we talk about actual persons, it might be a different story. But Liam is just a character. For me character's sexual orientation is very important. In general I am more interested in LGBT+ characters, and I see nothing wrong with this preference.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:10:05 GMT
My name gives that away, doesn't it? Yes, I am. Must resist posting Homestuck meme here. Lol. Oh boy he's my most favorite gay character of all time.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:06:52 GMT
Could anyone even imagine the shitstorm that would unleashed if Liam pulled a Jacob and dumped Sara to makeout with an Angaran in the sequel? It would be glorious and terrifying to watch. A better shitstorm would be Jaal dumping Sara to make out with Peebee and leave their hybrid baby for Sara to take care of the baby alone.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 22:02:29 GMT
I was ready to be a Liam fan boy, but then he's revealed as straight, and my interest in him just died. You didn't lose out on much, Dirkjake. Liam's a better best friend character anyway. Also, are you a Homestuck fan? My name gives that away, doesn't it? Yes, I am.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 21:50:25 GMT
Awww that's cute. What is it with BW making all the straight guys such adorable, likable soft boys that appeal to gay men more than the gay options? Ugh. Yeah it's really sad seeing Liam getting overshadowed by Jaal, he'd be so much more popular if he was bi. I was ready to be a Liam fan boy, but then he's revealed as straight, and my interest in him just died.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 21:34:44 GMT
I think last night people were talking about Liam's second 'no homo' scene. I know someone mentioned that they did the marriage material one and were wondering how he responds to being thought of as a one night stand. Basically Ryder just says 'one night, all night' and Liam says something along the lines of who ever you end up with is a lucky dude. It was cute. I need to see this no-homo scene right now. It sounds really cute.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 29, 2017 20:21:42 GMT
I wish there was a scene where you can introduce your romance option to your sibling. That could be lovely. That would be so cool! And seeing as this is sth that would have to be added for all romances, I think it'd actually be rather well suited to being in a DLC. Would be interesting to see if your sibling didn't necessarily approve of or got along with your partner (depending on who you romanced). I doubt your sibling will approve of Reyes. Your father would probably be rolling in his grave lol.
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