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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 8:05:46 GMT
Hmm, wouldn't the m/m romance include meat eating? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) It's cruelty free.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 8:03:33 GMT
One thing I want to ask, since we're talking about LGBT characters and their level of quality, what kind of LGBT characters do you want to see? For one, I would love it if, in the future, at least one of the non-asari characters in all the marketing were gay/bi. Like you know what I'm talking about: the starter, main squadmate/companion who has a lot of content and connections to the main plot. Like, Cassandra from DA:I, for example. Do you have to ask? GAY KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR. WITH A RUGBY PLAYER BUILD. AND SWEET, DOPEY HAZEL PUPPY EYES.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 8:01:37 GMT
Sure, man. I'm not pissed off or anything. I'm just pre-empting the inevitable 'you're making excuses for bigots/supporting the marginalisation of content' type stuff, which is not remotely what I'm saying. As an annoying militant vegetarian, I'm just applying the life lesson that people will eat more bacon just to fucking spite you if you tell them they're eating a corpse. Even though they are. When you engage people with ideas and concepts they might otherwise avoid in a seamless, thoughtful way, they're much likely to hear you. Hence, Steve and Sam good. Compromising your characters and transparently turning Cole and Bull into the writers mouthpiece to teach gamers about trans people? Not so much. OMfuckingG. Thank you. Fucking thank you. I get so much shit for being a vegetarian. And then all the laughter and the "lol I love bacon too much to give it up hahaha" ... me: :poker: You realize that... doesn't make you look very good... from my point of view... "I love to eat the innocent flesh of dead animals because it tastes soooo good rofl" *backs away slowly* Though I've simply come to the conclusion that humans are born with different levels of empathy, and meat-eaters are just a little short on it, that's all. People are like, actively aggressive when I tell them I'm a vegetarian. I've gotten shit for being gay ONCE (in real life, anyway. Online is a different story but it just goes to show what huge pussies these people are). Vegetarian? All the time. Even when the other person brought it up and then they seem to have to basically drill me on why I would do such a thing until it devolves into them challenging me to explain how a cow is different from a broccoli (no, really).
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 7:55:27 GMT
I understand this argument and knew it was coming, but I just find it entirely dismissive. I'm not making excuses for ignorance or stupidity, or advocating for 'the invisible gay'. I'm advocating for the maturity to understand that putting in gay characters and then being like 'THEY'RE GAY! ACCEPT THEM!' will elicit the opposite reaction of what you intended, because lots of people are stubborn and stupid. I'm advocating for gay characters to be treated as nuanced characters first and gay people second. I actually thought Sam and Steve were pretty great on that front. Their sexuality wasn't hidden at all, but primarily they were useful professionals aboard your ship. Regarding Dorian...the dude was set up as having solid cultural issues with his dad that had NOTHING to do with being gay. Namely that he was railing against Tevinter culture as something of a progressive combined with the fact that he was refusing to carry on his mage bloodline. Those conflicts were interesting and relevant to the plot. Then you go and suddenly it's because he's gay. It was bizarre. I've argued against that many times. Namely making characters with the "I'm gay" sign attached to their forehead. It's what some companies out there do in order to pretend they're inclusive. And it's a problem some str8 writers have, which is something I also mentioned a few times on these forums. They seem to be incapable of making "a gay character" but instead make a "*GASP* gay character", as in they are so hung up on the "weird gay thing" that they fk it up. You don't see this problem as often with gay people writing or creating characters since they can more easily make it seamless. So my argument wasn't to contradict what you said or missing this point, which is why I said "The problem here is, there's a very thin line separating what I think you're saying, and which would be perfectly fine, and making the "invisible gay" character trope, which is NOT ok in the slightest.". I was pointing out that some people are having trouble with that separation and will often sing wildly across the line in either direction. Sure, man. I'm not pissed off or anything. I'm just pre-empting the inevitable 'you're making excuses for bigots/supporting the marginalisation of content' type stuff, which is not remotely what I'm saying. As an annoying militant vegetarian, I'm just applying the life lesson that people will eat more bacon just to fucking spite you if you tell them they're eating a corpse. Even though they are. When you engage people with ideas and concepts they might otherwise avoid in a seamless, thoughtful way, they're much likely to hear you. Hence, Steve and Sam good. Compromising your characters and transparently turning Cole and Bull into the writers mouthpiece to teach gamers about trans people? Not so much.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 7:36:15 GMT
At least Krem's hmm trans-talk was avoidable in the game so people can choose to not to have it. Still personally I'd just preferred that him being trans came up more naturally within his backstory. I don't think it was naturally and well implemented in the game as it were, writing could have been better. In terms of Dorian, I actually liked his content and his problem with his father ^^; Maybe it could have been more about forced marriage though. I'm not advocating for gated content to protect people that I personally would slap the shit out of in person and who's safe space I could give two fucks about. I don't care about it being 'avoidable'. I care about it being well written and naturally occurring. Krem's approach was patronising. Particularly the multiple Cole banters about it. Bring it up, sure! But bring it up well and then move onto something else that enriches his character.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 7:29:22 GMT
Honestly, this doesn't bother me and neither does the lack of reveal of the bi squaddie (assuming there is one) because then a large portion of players would write them off as just 'the gay romance option'. The pragmatic truth is that the best representation is the representation that fits in seamlessly. People don't need ten conversations and banters about how Krem is trans and like, it's totally ok to be trans, guys! It just pisses people off and makes them more resistant. I'm gay and even I found the Krem and Dorian content overbearing. Trans and gay characters are already receiving representation in Bioware games. Let people enjoy them as nuanced, three dimensional characters without making a big deal of it and eventually nobody will bat an eye. The problem here is, there's a very thin line separating what I think you're saying, and which would be perfectly fine, and making the "invisible gay" character trope, which is NOT ok in the slightest. The invisible gay is someone like Arcade Gannon in F3, where you needed bachelor degrees in "advanced rpg gaming dialogue systems", "how to load/save 1 million times to uncover specific dialogues" and "patience of a non-existent god" not to mention a huge ammount of dumb luck, in order to discover he was gay. And there are plenty of people who want their "gays" to be like that. "I don't care you're gay, but why can't you be gay in the privacy of your own home and you have to be gay in the street?" "B-but we're just holding hands..." "EXCATLY! For god's sake man, think of the children!!! How am I to explain to them that kind of pornographic material???" So while Krem and Dorian might arguably come across that way (I disagree in Dorian's case, but whatever, I've come up with arguments about this numerous times, and the people calling his story preachy will just repeat the same stuff over and over again, thus no point in bothering with them), it's still better than having them be invisible just to be sure you don't upset the delicate special snowflakes out there. I understand this argument and knew it was coming, but I just find it entirely dismissive. I'm not making excuses for ignorance or stupidity, or advocating for 'the invisible gay'. I'm advocating for the maturity to understand that putting in gay characters and then being like 'THEY'RE GAY! ACCEPT THEM!' will elicit the opposite reaction of what you intended, because lots of people are stubborn and stupid. I'm advocating for gay characters to be treated as nuanced characters first and gay people second. I actually thought Sam and Steve were pretty great on that front. Their sexuality wasn't hidden at all, but primarily they were useful professionals aboard your ship. Regarding Dorian...the dude was set up as having solid cultural issues with his dad that had NOTHING to do with being gay. Namely that he was railing against Tevinter culture as something of a progressive combined with the fact that he was refusing to carry on his mage bloodline. Those conflicts were interesting and relevant to the plot. Then you go and suddenly it's because he's gay. It was bizarre.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 7:11:45 GMT
Honestly, this doesn't bother me and neither does the lack of reveal of the bi squaddie (assuming there is one) because then a large portion of players would write them off as just 'the gay romance option'. The pragmatic truth is that the best representation is the representation that fits in seamlessly. People don't need ten conversations and banters about how Krem is trans and like, it's totally ok to be trans, guys! It just pisses people off and makes them more resistant. I'm gay and even I found the Krem and Dorian content overbearing. Trans and gay characters are already receiving representation in Bioware games. Let people enjoy them as nuanced, three dimensional characters without making a big deal of it and eventually nobody will bat an eye. I swear to god you can ask about Krem's gender identity like 15 times during the game!! It was annoying and jarring and I just... I wanted him to just be there, just BE KREM, and for the stupid transphobic player to figure it out himself and throw his controller through the TV screen instead of ME having to sit and tediously bypass all the pseudo-lecture dialogue options I knew hadn't been written for me. Exactly. I understood almost immediately that Krem was trans. And then for anyone who wasn't getting it, ONE dialogue option or even just that throwaway line about binding breasts would have communicated it and TADA! You've got a well represented trans character. Why on earth did they take up a quarter of Bull's scenes and banters to lecture players about this? It's like they have no concept of human psychology. That would annoy people who are totally indifferent to trans people. We don't need Ryder making out with a dude in the trailer. We just need good, well rounded gay characters in the game.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 7:04:03 GMT
Ocelot See, the whole "because of straight male new fans" doesn't work for me either. I give those men a lot more credit than that. While there are a few that might be turned off, I think that the majority wouldn't care if there is a m/m squad romance. The worry about being ninjamanced is gone thanks to the icon system. So I will continue to question the marketing team's logic behind this. It seems terribly outdated to me. That's because their marketing is terribly outdated. Bioware still have trouble even getting relatively even screentime for their female and male protagonists during marketing. Imagine how long it'll take before we get a trailer where the male protagonists is making out with a dude, rather than Ashley, Miranda, Ashley again, or Cora. It's going to be a long time, sadly... A long time Honestly, this doesn't bother me and neither does the lack of reveal of the bi squaddie (assuming there is one) because then a large portion of players would write them off as just 'the gay romance option'. The pragmatic truth is that the best representation is the representation that fits in seamlessly. People don't need ten conversations and banters about how Krem is trans and like, it's totally ok to be trans, guys! It just pisses people off and makes them more resistant. I'm gay and even I found the Krem and Dorian content overbearing. Trans and gay characters are already receiving representation in Bioware games. Let people enjoy them as nuanced, three dimensional characters without making a big deal of it and eventually nobody will bat an eye.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 5:54:32 GMT
She kinda gives me a Bjork vibe. Quirky pretty.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 5:35:24 GMT
I meant to reply to this hours ago but my break ended and I forgot. Well (and yes spoilers stop if you want to go in blind)...
We know from the previews that very early on you are on a ship that crashes onto a planet. I don't know if Jaal or other potential romances are on that planet, but early game doesn't necessarily mean you don't meet Jaal or another alien. Seems to me Kallo Jath comes with the ship so he might be early and he strikes me as the type to say Hello. Very unlikely but damnit let me dream. Hello.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 3:58:37 GMT
Cool. I love socialism, comrade. I can't wait to spread my gay agenda across Andromeda and force people to have free healthcare and such.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 2:40:06 GMT
The RPG genre is so over-saturated with generic fantasy settings that you have to do a REALLY good job with them to make them stand out and Kingdoms just didn't. And of course there was the obscene over-abundance of dull sidequests.
What I'm trying to say is, come the fuck on and make me an occult detective RPG, bioware.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 2:00:34 GMT
Me, unironically, when I saw Sloane: I can understand this, that's how I feel about Cora. Would you please, just for my personal amusement, find a way to incorporate some Alyssa Edwards/Katya gifs at regular intervals?
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 1:50:09 GMT
There's also that bloke mentioned somewhere who leads a colony, August Bradley. Former military, voiced by a French celebrity. Could be a possible fling or off-ship romance.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 1:46:00 GMT
www.stuff.tv/in/game-reviews/mass-effect-andromeda/review"In fact, that goes for almost every person you meet within Andromeda’s vast universe. From flirting with outlaws to fighting green-skinned foes, dialogue decisions constantly shape relationships, action and outcomes - and you’ll be made intimately aware of the consequences." Didn't say planetside, but hey, it's a drop of water for all you thirsy ho's.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 1:44:01 GMT
Oh, that reminds me. I saw a suggestion by a late hands on that stated you can enjoy romance with a planetside criminal. Hadn't seen it come up here. That woman from the demo? Do you have a link? I could see them making Sloane as one of the off-ship romances they talked about. She seems like a major character so could have plenty of content and interactions. Trying to look for it now. For some reason Microsoft edge doesn't maintain a history and I'm too computer derp/lazy to figure out why. The line was a slightly hype list of things you can do in the game ala 'get ready to explore alien worlds, flirt with criminals, and shoot your way to victory' type thing, so it could be hot air but seemed somewhat specific. Obviously that's not a direct quote.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 1:40:00 GMT
Okay, so do you guys think there will be any more NPC romances outside the Tempest crew? Absolutely. Bioware has stated as much, including Mac Walters saying his favorite romance in the game is one of them. And then there will be the characters who are flings or light romances. Oh, that reminds me. I saw a suggestion by a late hands on that stated you can enjoy romance with a planetside criminal. Hadn't seen it come up here. That woman from the demo?
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 0:53:29 GMT
Well I'm calling bullshit on that lore. If they want to embrace eternity with a dude, sure. But as a civilisation made up entirely of female-formed individuals, who's love lives and romantic culture have for thousands of years revolved purely around f/f interactions, them all finding male humans physically/sexually attractive is a big stretch. Its also a big stretch that humans would find turians and krogan attractive, and yet tons of people do. Matching their sexual orientation. Not transcending it. And I'm arguing that most asari would, from thousands of years of socialisation, be lesbian by default unless they grew up around sentient males in a multicultural setting. But this is turning into one of those internet arguments where the original point gets lost in a sea of selective nitpicking, so.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 0:41:31 GMT
Well I'm calling bullshit on that lore. If they want to embrace eternity with a dude, sure. But as a civilisation made up entirely of female-formed individuals, who's love lives and romantic culture have for thousands of years revolved purely around f/f interactions, them all finding male humans physically/sexually attractive is a big stretch. Well, what you think is not relevant. The lore is what's relevant, or "Word of God" aka the devs. No matter what we, the players are thinking, if it's not in the game or confirmed by the Devs (or whoever in Bioware that decide) it's not canon. And if we go by the idea that the Protheans modified the Asari, they may have made them so they don't have a strong preference in the physical sense, and instead they try to find people that have strong traits that will make the offspring better. Wow, that went in a more creepy direction than I had intended. :smh: What I think is perfectly relevant. We're discussing the validity of a fictional species, not whether climate change is real or arguing what temperature water boils at. Just because a dev says something totally makes sense doesn't mean it does.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 0:20:39 GMT
Well I'm calling bullshit on that lore. If they want to embrace eternity with a dude, sure. But as a civilisation made up entirely of female-formed individuals, who's love lives and romantic culture have for thousands of years revolved purely around f/f interactions, them all finding male humans physically/sexually attractive is a big stretch. You didn't quote my whole post. They bond differently so appearance doesn't really matter to them... Edit: "There is some conflicting information regarding the gender of the asari. Asari are a mono-gendered species with no concept of gender differences. According to Liara, "male and female have no real meaning for us," and, if asked, says that she is "not precisely a woman." At the same time, asari are often viewed as an all-female race, including by the Codex and by the Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183. To humans at least, asari appear female with breasts and voices that sound female. Even among the asari, individual asari are referred to using feminine pronouns like “she” and “her” instead of gender-neutral terms like “they" and "them." Asari also bear feminine titles like “huntress” and “matriarch” and asari offspring are usually referred to as “daughters.” However asari gender is defined, they are innately different from humans, for asari can mate and successfully reproduce with any other gender or species. Although they have one gender, they are not asexual and do in fact require a partner to reproduce. However, asari reproduction is very different from other forms of sexual reproduction. An asari provides two copies of her own genes to her offspring, one of which is passed on unaltered. The second set of genes is altered in a unique process called melding, also known as the joining. During melding, the eyes of the asari initiating the meld dilate as she consciously attunes her nervous system to her partner's, sending and receiving electrical impulses directly through the skin. A common phrase used before melding is "embrace eternity", presumably to help focus the partner's mind. Effectively, the asari and her partner briefly become one unified nervous system, sharing memories, thoughts, and feelings. The offspring is always an asari, regardless of the species or sex of the "father" and in the case that the offspring is of two asari, the father is the one who does not give birth. masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/AsariYes, I did. Unless you edited it while I was posting. And who cares? It's not a contest. It's just tits and dragons spaceships. Plus, Asari clearly do have sex/a sex drive. That's just not how they procreate.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 0:13:41 GMT
Also somewhat romance related; a purely lesbian asari makes a ton more sense than the bi-as-standard that we keep getting. They lived on their home planet for thousands of years with no dick-bearing sentients. You'd think the majority would be like 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING? IT'S LIKE A MALE PYJACKS!' Bi or even straight asari who grew up in a multicultural colony, sure, but Thessia raised? Hmm. Asari by lore don't care about genders so no it would not make sense. They are a monogendered race that doesn't have a perception of gender like humans. Male/Female does not matter to them. Well I'm calling bullshit on that lore. If they want to embrace eternity with a dude, sure. But as a civilisation made up entirely of female-formed individuals, who's love lives and romantic culture have for thousands of years revolved purely around f/f interactions, them all finding male humans physically/sexually attractive is a big stretch.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 28, 2017 0:07:31 GMT
Despite the snark I'm not implying that, so much as saying that with the current level of animation they're not gonna be conveying a groundbreaking lovemaking scene like, say, that scene from Blue Is The Warmest Colour. You're probably not gonna get chills from watching Gil bump into Ryder. Just show them nude cuddling and going to sleep together, leave the complex stuff to the imagination and for those of us who are asexual or who feel like the sex happened too early for them to feel it was a natural progression they can just assume otherwise. I was quite impressed with what Cora x Scott showed me. Not to mention, Fenris x Hawke was a scene I loved as well, and wouldn't have had that part of the romance any other way. So, should all the dialogue also be void of any talk of sex as well, then? If your point is that let's remove the sex and those who want it can headcanon it, are you also saying that the whole subject of sex should be removed? Well ideally you'd have multiple dialogue options to imply either way, but I'm not a developer at Bioware.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 23:45:43 GMT
I must admit I don't really get why this has to be specified. I'm not asexual but I'd still very much like my romance options to revolve around...romance. Emotional support, encouragement of passions, sharing of tragedies and triumphs, TONS of cuddling and old fashioned twee gestures. If I want porn I'll just watch porn, not a badly animated video game cutscene. It should be left up to the player whether sex occurs or not, unless it's specifically important to that romance plot like with Bull. Sex or the implication of sex =/= porn. Sex is more than just a savage, primal act of lust, and I'd hate to have it cut out just because. For me, it's one of the pinnacles of romance, and I can hardly think anything as visually powerful to really showcase the vulnerability and attraction between two people. Despite the snark I'm not implying that, so much as saying that with the current level of animation they're not gonna be conveying a groundbreaking lovemaking scene like, say, that scene from Blue Is The Warmest Colour. You're probably not gonna get chills from watching Gil bump into Ryder. Just show them nude cuddling and going to sleep together, leave the complex stuff to the imagination and for those of us who are asexual or who feel like the sex happened too early for them to feel it was a natural progression they can just assume otherwise.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 23:37:37 GMT
Also somewhat romance related; a purely lesbian asari makes a ton more sense than the bi-as-standard that we keep getting. They lived on their home planet for thousands of years with no dick-bearing sentients. You'd think the majority would be like 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING? IT'S LIKE A MALE PYJACKS!' Bi or even straight asari who grew up in a multicultural colony, sure, but Thessia raised? Hmm.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Feb 27, 2017 23:31:45 GMT
I must admit I don't really get why this has to be specified. I'm not asexual but I'd still very much like my romance options to revolve around...romance. Emotional support, encouragement of passions, sharing of tragedies and triumphs, TONS of cuddling and old fashioned twee gestures. If I want porn I'll just watch porn, not a badly animated video game cutscene. It should be left up to the player whether sex occurs or not, unless it's specifically important to that romance plot like with Bull. Which I sincerely hope never happens again, unless it's like a third or fourth option romance That said I also don't need (and sometimes prefer, but not always) sex in a video game romance, but I personally feel BioWare, especially ME, goes too far with "porno" aspect. I honestly don't need to see people rolling around in bed. BUT I know some people like it, and not for horny reasons, so... to each their own I guess! All we can hope for is variety (which makes the gated romances tougher because the "type" of romance you like may be for the wrong gender or whatever). I just don't get like, the people who were raging over Josie's romance 'not having sex', for example. Like, what do you need? A fuckin' codex entry detailing all the positions you've bonked in? If you're that desperate just get out the lube and boot up the googles, there's bound to be some Josie stuff on there. If you're playing a sexual inquisitor then you can assume that a relationship between two adults eventually involved sex if you want. As for Bull, fuck Bioware so hard for giving that early 'so you've never known true passion?' flirt that made me think his romance would be all about showing him the sweet side of courting and revealing a big softie. And fuck them further for not giving me a 'Um, no. I AM interested, but not on your shitty terms.' option. Just generally fuck Bioware, far too much fucking going on, fuck off with that.
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