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Post by Reznore on Sept 6, 2016 15:47:39 GMT
Sorry but my guy is strictly not a kiss and tell person, so that bit of fun was for my personal consumption only. They were in Wycome, having taken Dorian to meet my clan and we arrived in the middle of Satinalia, so what with Wycome being the revelry capital of Thedas and all that Antivan wine flowing about, one thing led to another and Dorian did the dance. To be honest what I wrote on the page wasn't nearly as good as what I was seeing in my head. I've a vivid imagination! Fair enough ( ) I like the Satinalia idea .^^ I'm sure your text is good ,you're skilled at writing and you're articulate , you can pull it off . You didn't publish anything from your Inquisitor fanfiction?(I'm feeling curious these days, sorry.) The non steamy bits I mean? Because I remember you talking about your Dalish Inqui dealing with the aftermath of Trespasser and dealing with the Lavallan clan , etc...
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 10, 2016 11:53:21 GMT
I am writing an entire novel concerning my Lavellan's exploits post Trespasser but it is not yet finished. As I reflect on things and come up with new revelations, I sometimes realise that may not fit with what I originally wrote, so I go back an edit accordingly. (Unlike Bioware I like consistency in my stories).
For example, my novel originally started with Dorian leaving from Kirkwall on an overland caravan to Vyrantium and onwards to Minrathous, so he never got to meet my clan. Later on I wasn't happy with this, so I went back and had him visit my clan and then take ship to Antiva (Keeper Deshanna supplying him with a special potion to help with sea sickness), taking a caravan from there to Qarinus. This then altered what my Lavellan did between Dorian leaving and then attending the Arlathven in the spring. So involving a lot of additional material and then editing of the original. Which is why I haven't actually published any of my fan fiction on-line, as it is still a work in progress. If I ever do, I'll let you know.
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Post by Verfallen on Sept 10, 2016 14:32:20 GMT
I am writing an entire novel concerning my Lavellan's exploits post Trespasser but it is not yet finished. <snip> If I ever do, I'll let you know. Best of luck to you! As this does leave an opening to indulge in shameless self-promotion, I've written a novella-length novelization of Trespasser (titled The Wrong Sort of Whatever) available here, and a follow-up full-length novel ( TRAITOR) available here. Both concerning (mage) Trevelyan/Dorian (otherwise it wouldn't make much sense to mention it in this thread ). If anyone should care to check them out, any feedback would be appreciated (or just read them; that would be lovely too ).
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 11, 2016 13:55:20 GMT
Read the Wrong Sort of Whatever and left a Kudos. Sorry but having to divulge name and email address prevented me from leaving a comment there. I will say that I did enjoy it, though. It is interesting to see what other people do with the characters. I also like the way you dealt with the emotional impact on the Inquisitor. That is something that has preoccupied me as well. On to the novel now!
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Post by Verfallen on Sept 11, 2016 20:53:13 GMT
Read the Wrong Sort of Whatever and left a Kudos. Sorry but having to divulge name and email address prevented me from leaving a comment there. I will say that I did enjoy it, though. It is interesting to see what other people do with the characters. I also like the way you dealt with the emotional impact on the Inquisitor. That is something that has preoccupied me as well. On to the novel now! Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, I know they really couldn't show the majority of the emotional impact in-game -- it would've blown the budget -- but I always thought it was a bit much that the Inquisitor seemed to be just fine with involuntary amputation... one of the many things that spurred me into novelizing Trespasser in the first place.
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Post by kalvarez on Sept 12, 2016 15:15:07 GMT
How I loved Dorian. He was always in my party. His banter and sassiness is too great to miss. I do feel like his romance was kind of shallow (either with the Inqui or Iron Bull). I guess because he was dancing trough life and being a rebel heart. I do love him as a character and hope to see more of him in DA4. I can't wait to get an older ever sassier Dorian. My bet is he'll be the wiser, older companion.
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Post by Reznore on Sept 15, 2016 23:24:34 GMT
Best of luck to you! As this does leave an opening to indulge in shameless self-promotion, I've written a novella-length novelization of Trespasser (titled The Wrong Sort of Whatever) available here, and a follow-up full-length novel ( TRAITOR) available here. Both concerning (mage) Trevelyan/Dorian (otherwise it wouldn't make much sense to mention it in this thread ). If anyone should care to check them out, any feedback would be appreciated (or just read them; that would be lovely too ). I updated the OP with the links of your stories.(If you want me to remove I can do it ) I started to read The Wrong Sort of Whatever , the writing style is energetic and witty , me like. I didn't read everything because I'm rather scattered brain these days , but when I get a couple of days when my mind is able again to fully concentrate I'll check the rest out.
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Post by Verfallen on Sept 16, 2016 0:07:08 GMT
Best of luck to you! As this does leave an opening to indulge in shameless self-promotion, I've written a novella-length novelization of Trespasser (titled The Wrong Sort of Whatever) available here, and a follow-up full-length novel ( TRAITOR) available here. Both concerning (mage) Trevelyan/Dorian (otherwise it wouldn't make much sense to mention it in this thread ). If anyone should care to check them out, any feedback would be appreciated (or just read them; that would be lovely too ). I updated the OP with the links of your stories.(If you want me to remove I can do it ) I started to read The Wrong Sort of Whatever , the writing style is energetic and witty , me like. I didn't read everything because I'm rather scattered brain these days , but when I get a couple of days when my mind is able again to fully concentrate I'll check the rest out. Thanks! I appreciate the inclusion of the links. Glad you've been enjoying it and hope you continue to.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 16, 2016 1:32:16 GMT
I updated the OP with the links of your stories.(If you want me to remove I can do it ) I started to read The Wrong Sort of Whatever , the writing style is energetic and witty , me like. I didn't read everything because I'm rather scattered brain these days , but when I get a couple of days when my mind is able again to fully concentrate I'll check the rest out. Thanks! I appreciate the inclusion of the links. Glad you've been enjoying it and hope you continue to. I just started Wrong Sort of Whatever, and I must say, it's very well-written. I'm really picky about fanfiction in general, but I am enjoying this.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 17, 2016 9:47:59 GMT
Hi there Verfallen. I'm now about half way through your novel and I am loving it. I don't read a lot of other fan fiction but your writing is very good. I've a question that seems pertinent to Dorian so thought I would post it here. You had description of the Silent Plains that intrigued me. Was this your own invention or did you get it from somewhere? When in the Western Approach, Dorian comments how he thinks it must be very similar to the Silent Plains, having been rendered largely sterile desert by the Blight, although he has never visited the Silent Plains personally. However, whilst the entry for the Anderfels also confirms that landscapes that have endured prolonged Blights are barren wastelands, I can't find anything that suggests they may have peculiar magical emanations as you suggest in your novel. So was that entirely your imagination?
Another thing that strikes me as odd about Dorian, in the main game, claiming never to have seen the Silent Plains is how he travelled to southern Thedas? The most logical route from Minrathous would be straight down the Imperial Highway to Cumberland and then by ship to Jader, or alternatively branching off just north of Cumberland and travelling to Val Royeaux, although I can't really see any logic for doing this. Either way the Imperial Highway would have taken him straight through the middle of the Silent Plains. I can only think that he must have started his journey in Qarinus, travelled overland to Antiva City and then taken ship round to Amaranthine, Highever or West Hill. In Trespasser he mentions how at that time of the year the overland route would not be possible (there are heavy snows in Nevarra in the winter, so I assume that would be the reason), so his return journey would have to be by ship, so I can definitely see him using the eastern seaboard route then (which is why it seemed logical for him to visit my clan in Wycome on the way back), but his previous journey south following Alexius would have been largely during the summer months, so the landward route would surely have been the more likely one. I know he mentions travelling on a ship but that could easily have been the crossing of the Waking Sea.
The other thing that I wonder about is distances. Verfallen seems to have got them about right in his novel. In Trespasser the amount of time that Dorian was said to have been away was just too short for him to have travelled all the way to Minrathous (or Qarinus) and then back again and done something meaningful with the Lucerni in between. The Inquisitor says he has been gone a month. I reckon it could have taken as much as a month to travel all the way from Skyhold to Minrathous, certainly not less than 3 weeks. Even if you shortened it down to 2 weeks, that means he would have got there and had to have turned round almost immediately to have got back to Halamshiral within a month So it may simply be that the discrepancy in Dorian's claim about the Silent Plains, compared with his likely route south, is just another of those annoying inconsistencies in the writing.
I realise this is trivia but it is related to Dorian and Tevinter.
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Post by Verfallen on Sept 17, 2016 10:44:05 GMT
First off, let me just say I'm delighted you're enjoying the novel! On the question of the Silent Plains: I took some from canon, but the description of odd magical emanations/phenomena that get odder the deeper into the plains you go was my own invention. I extrapolated that with a magical conflagration that big, there was every possibility that along with the permanent effects (the barren wasteland), there would be something akin to a magical fallout, with a similarly long half-life, that would affect the area and give rise to all manner of strange phenomena (odd weather patterns, for instance, or briefly living mirages). Not only does it make sense, but I was thinking in terms of it being interesting for potential future stories/plotlines. Ah yes, travel routes. Obviously I looked into that, and you're dead right the only logical route (based on the sketchy maps we have) is the Imperial Highway. So here's my No-Prize explanation for why Dorian says he's never seen the Silent Plains: As Kai established in the book, a lot of people have put a lot of time over centuries into reclaiming the land immediately adjacent to the Imperial Highway because it's always been too important a trade route to abandon. So if you stick to the Highway and its immediate area, you don't ever really see the Silent Plains except at a distance. Dorian doesn't mean he hasn't SEEN the Plains, he means he's never ventured into them because you'd have to have a screw loose to try that without a very good reason. I just can't buy him taking the Eastern route. It makes no sense if you have no business in Antiva and the areas south of there, and would add a ridiculous amount of travel time even taking into account the distances one can cover by sailing. As far as his traveling by ship, one can also sail from Minrathous to Marnas Pell or Vyrantium, then head to the Imperial Highway from either city -- that also could cut down significantly on travel time. And oh gods, the travel time/distances question. There is virtually nothing you can look to in canon that provides a clear idea how far anything is from anything. I agree that month Dorian was gone in Trespasser would have been largely travel time no matter how you slice it. One would hope they figure out and provide some basic geographical information assuming DA4 does take place in Tevinter (I'm not holding my breath for them to be that considerate), but for the time being, distances in Thedas are all educated guesswork. Trying to work out realistic travel times for the book was a pain in the arse.
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Post by pensieve on Sept 21, 2016 15:14:36 GMT
I did the main story quest where you go to Adamant and end up in the Fade (can't think of the quest's name). I took Solas with me instead of Dorian, because the fade. I'm pretty sure there should be a cutscene with Dorian (romanced) when you return to Skyhold, but when I go to talk to him he just greets me like I didn't just disappear into the fade and almost died. Does that cutscene only happen if you take him with you in your party?
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 21, 2016 15:24:17 GMT
There should be a cutscene with all the companions whether you took them to the fade or not. Has to be a bug of some kind.
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Post by pensieve on Sept 21, 2016 17:11:57 GMT
Reloading fixed it
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 25, 2016 0:15:08 GMT
Has anyone here romanced Dorian with a qunari or a dwarf? I'd love to see your couples, because those are my favorite races to romance Dorian with (though I'm not a big fan of Dorian's romance so I don't have one myself :x).
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Post by Catilina on Sept 25, 2016 0:24:40 GMT
Has anyone here romanced Dorian with a qunari or a dwarf? I'd love to see your couples, because those are my favorite races to romance Dorian with (though I'm not a big fan of Dorian's romance so I don't have one myself :x). I plan with Meravas Adaar. Sometime. I like my new qunari, so: maybe I will bring forward. (I have too much started project...)
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Post by pensieve on Sept 25, 2016 10:16:56 GMT
Has anyone here romanced Dorian with a qunari or a dwarf? I'd love to see your couples, because those are my favorite races to romance Dorian with (though I'm not a big fan of Dorian's romance so I don't have one myself :x). I have! I'll look up some screenshots when I get my Xbox on. I think Dorian was adorable with a Qunari but I didn't like how the Qunari shrank a few inches but his clothes didn't... causing him to clip into the neck of his clothes.
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 25, 2016 11:15:02 GMT
Has anyone here romanced Dorian with a qunari or a dwarf? I'd love to see your couples, because those are my favorite races to romance Dorian with (though I'm not a big fan of Dorian's romance so I don't have one myself :x). I plan with Meravas Adaar. Sometime. I like my new qunari, so: maybe I will bring forward. (I have too much started project...) Hah, I feel you. Sometimes I have too many Inquisitors started already that I completely forget about others. I'd love to see your Adaar with Dorian! I think Dorian works nice with a qunari, who takes charge! Though I remember you saying that you think Dorian is a bit whiny haha, but I think if you commit to roleplaying a character, the romance can be great! I had two older gentlemen, a qunari and a human, who worked really well with Dorian. The qunari was more aggressive and called Dorian out on his bullshit, but still understood that Dorian is Dorian, and he'll do what he wants, and that's sort of why he is so attracted to him. The human was more passive and basically let Dorian do his thing, and had no interest in being in the way of his ambitions and goals. In truth, I think Dorian was a bit upset that he was so reasonable, and so fine with everything Dorian would do. Any idea how you are going to roleplay/headcanon Meravas? Has anyone here romanced Dorian with a qunari or a dwarf? I'd love to see your couples, because those are my favorite races to romance Dorian with (though I'm not a big fan of Dorian's romance so I don't have one myself :x). I have! I'll look up some screenshots when I get my Xbox on. I think Dorian was adorable with a Qunari but I didn't like how the Qunari shrank a few inches but his clothes didn't... causing him to clip into the neck of his clothes. Definitely send pics! Some qunari (and dwarf) x Dorian positivity would be good around here, since most of the Dorian romancers are elves or humans. There are so many problems with the qunari model but I'm fine with it since I love being able to play as a qunari. Dorian likes 'em big and tall, that is a fact, and that's why it feels pretty damn nice romancing Dorian with a qunari Inquisitor.
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Post by pensieve on Sept 25, 2016 11:34:09 GMT
Definitely send pics! Some qunari (and dwarf) x Dorian positivity would be good around here, since most of the Dorian romancers are elves or humans. There are so many problems with the qunari model but I'm fine with it since I love being able to play as a qunari. Dorian likes 'em big and tall, that is a fact, and that's why it feels pretty damn nice romancing Dorian with a qunari Inquisitor. Ok, so apparently Xbox deletes your screenshots if you don't upload them after about 20 days, and I couldn't upload them because I didn't have Gold because I refuse to have to pay for uploading my own screenshots... all my screenshots from my qunari/Dorian playthrough are gone Ah well, I'll just have to make a new qunari for Dorian then.. Though I did find some photos I made with my phone, so here goes:
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 25, 2016 11:54:48 GMT
Definitely send pics! Some qunari (and dwarf) x Dorian positivity would be good around here, since most of the Dorian romancers are elves or humans. There are so many problems with the qunari model but I'm fine with it since I love being able to play as a qunari. Dorian likes 'em big and tall, that is a fact, and that's why it feels pretty damn nice romancing Dorian with a qunari Inquisitor. Ok, so apparently Xbox deletes your screenshots if you don't upload them after about 20 days, and I couldn't upload them because I didn't have Gold because I refuse to have to pay for uploading my own screenshots... all my screenshots from my qunari/Dorian playthrough are gone Ah well, I'll just have to make a new qunari for Dorian then.. Though I did find some photos I made with my phone, so here goes: Oh my goodness, in the first screencap he looks so young and adorable! I didn't realize you could make a qunari looks so young in this game, mine all turn out very masculine and old-looking (though partially because I want them to look like that lol). They look very cute together! Oh, definitely make a new qunari run! It's worth it!
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Post by Catilina on Sept 25, 2016 13:16:10 GMT
I plan with Meravas Adaar. Sometime. I like my new qunari, so: maybe I will bring forward. (I have too much started project...) Hah, I feel you. Sometimes I have too many Inquisitors started already that I completely forget about others. I'd love to see your Adaar with Dorian! I think Dorian works nice with a qunari, who takes charge! Though I remember you saying that you think Dorian is a bit whiny haha, but I think if you commit to roleplaying a character, the romance can be great! I had two older gentlemen, a qunari and a human, who worked really well with Dorian. The qunari was more aggressive and called Dorian out on his bullshit, but still understood that Dorian is Dorian, and he'll do what he wants, and that's sort of why he is so attracted to him. The human was more passive and basically let Dorian do his thing, and had no interest in being in the way of his ambitions and goals. In truth, I think Dorian was a bit upset that he was so reasonable, and so fine with everything Dorian would do. Any idea how you are going to roleplay/headcanon Meravas? As I see, I made a mistake, that started Dorian romance with an elf (he was my first created character)... Instead Dorian he should've have Iron Bull. I think Dorian romance probably will work with a qunari for me. (And I also hated the Trespasser's romance end...) Haha, yes, Dorian a bit annoy me: with his fashion mania (and his TV-series personal quest). And just for me seems a little empty permanent "Amatus" (typical compensation, or only rote)? No poroblem, I get him a second chance. (I have a single mage Trevelyan too. I dont know yet: Iron Bull or Dorian, in the moment I am inclined toward the Iron Bull.) I will going for IHW, for Dorian (and Samson) again (my dwarf will go for CofJ – I planned Iron Bull for him). Truth is: I'm not a big role player, all my character a bit similar as me or/and need to have my sympathy: hot-headed-sarcastic-mostly "good" possibly neutral (a bit hard to me to playing for example an "evil", or a totally lawful character). Probably this is the reason why too hard to go for ser Barris and his templars, after he refused my Inquisitor's call and follow this dickhead... But also this is the reason, why I always get a second chance to Blackwall – and because I like him... So: Meravas have tabula rasa yet, as my plan: he is open mindend, but a bit wary toward mages. For Divine I plan Cassandra or possibly Leliana. I will see. (Not Vivienne, not because she is annoy me, rather because she not as faitfull, rather powerhungry. This seems dangerous with her templar AND mage army – Tevinter-like Circles in the Future? I dont think, that a qunari rogue would like to see her in this high position) With Dorian? In my conception Meravas is harder, than my Lavellan. I think, this romance have a chance to be better.
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Post by witchcocktor on Sept 25, 2016 13:44:12 GMT
Hah, I feel you. Sometimes I have too many Inquisitors started already that I completely forget about others. I'd love to see your Adaar with Dorian! I think Dorian works nice with a qunari, who takes charge! Though I remember you saying that you think Dorian is a bit whiny haha, but I think if you commit to roleplaying a character, the romance can be great! I had two older gentlemen, a qunari and a human, who worked really well with Dorian. The qunari was more aggressive and called Dorian out on his bullshit, but still understood that Dorian is Dorian, and he'll do what he wants, and that's sort of why he is so attracted to him. The human was more passive and basically let Dorian do his thing, and had no interest in being in the way of his ambitions and goals. In truth, I think Dorian was a bit upset that he was so reasonable, and so fine with everything Dorian would do. Any idea how you are going to roleplay/headcanon Meravas? As I see, I made a mistake, that started Dorian romance with an elf (he was my first created character)... Instead Dorian he should've have Iron Bull. I think Dorian romance probably will work with a qunari for me. (And I also hated the Trespasser's romance end...) Haha, yes, Dorian a bit annoy me: with his fashion mania (and his TV-series personal quest). And just for me seems a little empty permanent "Amatus" (typical compensation, or only rote)? No poroblem, I get him a second chance. (I have a single mage Trevelyan too. I dont know yet: Iron Bull or Dorian, in the moment I am inclined toward the Iron Bull.) I will going for IHW, for Dorian (and Samson) again (my dwarf will go for CofJ – I planned Iron Bull for him). Truth is: I'm not a big role player, all my character a bit similar as me or/and need to have my sympathy: hot-headed-sarcastic-mostly "good" possibly neutral (a bit hard to me to playing for example an "evil", or a totally lawful character). Probably this is the reason why too hard to go for ser Barris and his templars, after he refused my Inquisitor's call and follow this dickhead... But also this is the reason, why I always get a second chance to Blackwall – and because I like him... So: Meravas have tabula rasa yet, as my plan: he is open mindend, but a bit wary toward mages. For Divine I plan Cassandra or possibly Leliana. I will see. (Not Vivienne, not because she is annoy me, rather because she not as faitfull, rather powerhungry. This seems dangerous with her templar AND mage army – Tevinter-like Circles in the Future? I dont think, that a qunari rogue would like to see her in this high position) With Dorian? In my conception Meravas is harder, than my Lavellan. I think, this romance have a chance to be better. TV-series personal quest hahaah. But I agree, it's almost cringey to me. It almost felt like mockery to Dorian's character. See, I'm the same. All my Inquisitors somehow resemble me or what I'd like to be. Or rather, they are like extensions of me. Roleplaying something that I'm not, or someone I don't agree with, is incredibly hard and really breaks the immersion. This is why I have a hard time romancing Dorian, because in real life, I would never be in a relationship with such a person, and he makes me totally frustrated. That's why, if I ever want to romance Dorian, I have to really concentrate on the roleplaying aspect, and make those decisions I don't necessarily agree with. That's why most of my Dorian romance playthroughs end shortly after I've exhausted all the romance content. I just see no reason to go back because Dorian is just going to piss me off rest of the game. But I've had two pretty successful runs, like for instance with this qunari that I mentioned. Though his save is completely deleted ahahah... I think it helps to make a character who is more independent, and who makes Dorian uncomfortable on how willing he is letting Dorian do what he wants. That's the only way I can romance Dorian, if the Inquisitor has all the power in the relationship, so to speak, and Dorian is the one a bit uncomfortable on how accepting his partner is.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 25, 2016 14:19:04 GMT
TV-series personal quest hahaah. But I agree, it's almost cringey to me. It almost felt like mockery to Dorian's character. See, I'm the same. All my Inquisitors somehow resemble me or what I'd like to be. Or rather, they are like extensions of me. Roleplaying something that I'm not, or someone I don't agree with, is incredibly hard and really breaks the immersion. This is why I have a hard time romancing Dorian, because in real life, I would never be in a relationship with such a person, and he makes me totally frustrated. That's why, if I ever want to romance Dorian, I have to really concentrate on the roleplaying aspect, and make those decisions I don't necessarily agree with. That's why most of my Dorian romance playthroughs end shortly after I've exhausted all the romance content. I just see no reason to go back because Dorian is just going to piss me off rest of the game. But I've had two pretty successful runs, like for instance with this qunari that I mentioned. Though his save is completely deleted ahahah... I think it helps to make a character who is more independent, and who makes Dorian uncomfortable on how willing he is letting Dorian do what he wants. That's the only way I can romance Dorian, if the Inquisitor has all the power in the relationship, so to speak, and Dorian is the one a bit uncomfortable on how accepting his partner is. Oh, nice pictures! and like this conception, yes. (My elf's face, when Dorian said, he will leave him for Tevinter in the future – I like this... In this moment, he seems, he want to send Dorian to the Hell...): Now only my Willard Terevelyan is single (for him I can imagine a "rival" Cullen, or Blackwall, more than Iron Bull or Dorian, but it's sadly impossible...)
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