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Post by mordivier on May 10, 2017 20:16:06 GMT
There are scores of videos on youtube highlighting the difference between the default Ryders of both genders in comparison to the model they were based on. Sarah Ryder essentially got whacked with some sort of stick to change her appearance.
While that alone is annoying considering how Scott Ryder didn't change that much at all(I cannot notice a single stand out when comparing but maybe that's just me) what really grates on me is that with 1.06 there are some noticeable changes to default Sarah Ryder.
1. She now has what appears to be a shade of pink lip-stick. 2. Her complexion has been "smoothed" over. It is less shiny. That is hit or miss. 3. Her eyes appeared to have been tweaked a tad to be more of a shiny blue(I am aware of the eye change with patch 1.05. It still looks different)
The CC presets have their entire complexion altered. Across the board they are less "shiny" and more...flat. Like someone put a crapton of make-up on them(I'm looking at the females only. I didn't look at the males) and then it was matted down.
What annoys me, however, is the fact that Bioware actually has the audacity to force players to be unable to do any sort of changes to default Ryders, yet make changes to said default Sarah Ryder AFTER a heap of criticism about it. So now we are stuck with these screwy and ugly female presents that me and a lot of others have to "tolerate" to have an acceptable representation in-game and if we wanted default Sarah Ryder...we have to do it with Biowares alterations.
*screams and shouts gibberish*
/end rant
Yeah...just...annoyed, but whatever.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2017 20:20:52 GMT
I'm curious about the changes to the presets myself. Guess I'll see in an hour or so... :poker:
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Post by paradigm on May 10, 2017 20:27:37 GMT
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Post by Finnen on May 10, 2017 20:46:57 GMT
2. Her complexion has been "smoothed" over. It is less shiny. That is hit or miss. You know that there's a mod on Nexus that allows you to use default Sara's face texture on any of the other presets? I really liked it, mostly because... the default Sara's face texture had "shine" on it and it made the skin look unique when compared to the others. I didn't use this mod for long (only in offline mode) because a) I'm a bit afraid of getting banned, I was afraid that BioWare was going to change this skin texture anyway and my character would end up looking different. My biggest fear was that BioWare would remove the shine and make this face texture look more in line with the others. I was literally like "Knowing my luck and how BioWare ends up doing EVERYTHING exactly opposite to my liking in Andromeda, I bet they will change this shine on the texture, even though noone complains about it". Huh, there you go, they did it, I didn't even have to wait too long. Seriously, I don't know anymore, even though I don't really care for it because I play with unmodded Preset 9, I still find it funny - I don't know where was the last time I found a game that does literally everything exactly opposite to my likings, lol. I'm not saying she looks worse now (maybe even a little better after all?), but still, the shine was the part that I actually liked xD Didn't mean to rant about it, just thought I would share this little "story" of mine
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Post by uirebhiril on May 10, 2017 21:09:53 GMT
Eh, I agree. I don't appreciate having default Sara suddenly finding big sis's makeup bag and giving it a go right before going into the field to blow things up. Dumb. Having the option to apply makeup in-game would be nice, like, before attending parties and such. But when I'm going to be in a hardsuit and fighting?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 10, 2017 23:30:23 GMT
Eh, I agree. I don't appreciate having default Sara suddenly finding big sis's makeup bag and giving it a go right before going into the field to blow things up. Dumb. Having the option to apply makeup in-game would be nice, like, before attending parties and such. But when I'm going to be in a hardsuit and fighting? Exactly. The only makeup suitable is camo paint. Period.
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Post by Squish on May 10, 2017 23:54:11 GMT
-waits for someone to post a screen shot-
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Post by unwanted on May 11, 2017 4:56:39 GMT
In my opinion they have simply replaced one terrible facial animation with one that makes the first one look good. Your character now does the most extraordinary contortions with their face.
And what is with the rubber neck and shoulders? They bend so unnatural.
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Post by Element Zero on May 11, 2017 4:59:39 GMT
-waits for someone to post a screen shot- Plucked from the Twitter thread.
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Post by Pearl on May 11, 2017 5:14:10 GMT
She also appears to have forgotten how to wash her hair. It's shinier, sure, but when you combine the sheen with the updated hair texture, it looks greasy to my eyes. Edit with screenshots, the spoiler box resizes them but you should be able to view the full size images by clicking on them.
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Post by trevelyanshep on May 11, 2017 5:17:04 GMT
I don't think she looks that bad at all.
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Post by erikson on May 11, 2017 5:20:39 GMT
I always wanted to experiment with makeup for the preset Ryder, but I'm not sure how I feel about them choosing a shade of lipstick for me. I kind of feel like I'd prefer her without any makeup to having it forced on me. I'll see when I get back to playing...
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Post by Squish on May 11, 2017 5:43:43 GMT
-waits for someone to post a screen shot- Plucked from the Twitter thread. Thanks! And to comment, yeah, I can kind of see a difference there...
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Post by normandy on May 11, 2017 5:59:31 GMT
They also changed Scott, danaduchy posted this:
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Post by blueasari on May 11, 2017 6:09:01 GMT
They also changed Scott, danaduchy posted this: What's the difference, other than 1.06 looking a little cross eyed? Different skin shade? Less facial hair?
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Post by zeypher on May 11, 2017 6:35:00 GMT
Scott always looks like a cross eyed drunk. Guess the new frat house outfit fits him perfectly.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 11, 2017 6:40:54 GMT
I just cannot like the facial hair on default Scott. I would have preferred a much closer shave. This is why I hate using defaults.
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Post by henkiedepost on May 11, 2017 6:45:12 GMT
They should make it easier for people to change things like facial hair and make-up in game. I don't play Sara but I can understand why people are annoyed with the fact that things like make-up change all the time without them having any control over it. Should be customisable during a playthrough imo.
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Post by blueasari on May 11, 2017 6:50:01 GMT
They should make it easier for people to change things like facial hair and make-up in game. I don't play Sara but I can understand why people are annoyed with the fact that things like make-up change all the time without them having any control over it. Should be customisable during a playthrough imo. Same in the Trilogy, I liked Sheploo but would have liked to change some little details about him.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 7:18:23 GMT
They also changed Scott, danaduchy posted this: He needs to start shaving until he can actually grow a beard.
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Post by blueasari on May 11, 2017 7:20:17 GMT
They also changed Scott, danaduchy posted this: He needs to start shaving until he can actually grow a beard. Blasto Electric Razer in next patch?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 7:27:36 GMT
-waits for someone to post a screen shot- *snip images* Plucked from the Twitter thread. Is she wearing that in Andromeda or is that just a photoshopped Ryder being paraded around as a member of the ME fan club?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 7:35:16 GMT
He needs to start shaving until he can actually grow a beard. Blasto Electric Razer in next patch? Yeah, charged DLC for all, lol.
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Post by kemka on May 11, 2017 9:56:06 GMT
How do we know all of these changes aren't to do with graphics tweaks? Shaders, lighting, colour. All of those things could make her face look different. And if it seems like the presets are altered too?
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