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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 11:53:01 GMT
Like I said, they've never told us how much Inquistion made them, and they won't tell us about Andromeda either. Listing it as some alarming factor is dumb and ignores precedent. The only people that matter in this entire equation are the investors who have the money and means to keep EA running. The meeting on the 9th was a one-way conversation. That's really, really good. You can say it's positive spin or whatever, but in the end... the investors are still confident. If they're confident, then don't worry about some HORRIBLY written piece by a disreputable site. F*** Kotaku man!
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Post by wolfsite on May 11, 2017 11:53:47 GMT
You do know nobody reads books anymore right? Its why bookstores dont exist outside Zimbabwe. I tried reading Deception. I kind of got lost in it and gave up. A few weeks later, I'm reading that fans wanted to recall Deception because of a few passages. The whole book was pretty disjointed even after they called out the inconsistencies. So... no... I won't be buying the books. I'm probably cheating myself, but no. Well in defense the writer of that book didn't research the ME universe very well.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 11:54:48 GMT
I tried reading Deception. I kind of got lost in it and gave up. A few weeks later, I'm reading that fans wanted to recall Deception because of a few passages. The whole book was pretty disjointed even after they called out the inconsistencies. So... no... I won't be buying the books. I'm probably cheating myself, but no. Well in defense the writer of that book didn't research the ME universe very well. Then who edited it? The same people that did that quality assurance testing on Andromeda?
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Post by force58 on May 11, 2017 11:59:30 GMT
Once the patch was released did you play and complete the game? This happens all the time. Look at The Division. Worst release of a game ever, but, they got it sorted out and its playable now. You all didn't give them a chance with all the complaining right from the games launch. You're now seeing the end result of all that complaining. Hope you're happy. I am happy. I have a working game on the PS4. Are you implying that the UNOFFICIAL BSN forums dictated what EA was going to do from the start? Are you implying that all the hate train that run up to the release of the game was because some random poster here on the BSN had anything to do with that? Are you saying that the criticisms weren't valid? Because if you are... I have one word for you. DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPthhhhhhhh. Also, nothing has happened except what EA and Bioware had planned from the start several years back. Kotaku got it wrong. All I'm hearing is that you want us to shut up and just praise Bioware. Sorry. Not sorry. Well I'm glad you're happy now, I assume after the patch took care of the gameplay issues on the PS4 I've read about. I'm saying that all the bitching and moaning I've seen on this forum, other forums, and in the game industry on websites, blog's, etc., has certainly affected the direction EA and Bioware will take with the game. How exactly it will in the end it still TBD, but holy hell, you'd think the game was completely unplayable on all platforms since launch based on the level of complaining going on. Constructive criticism is one thing, flying off the handle like 8 year old's is another (not you), so I'm not saying for anybody to shut up. I'm saying there's a right way and a wrong way to express dissatisfaction. I learned my lesson on the Ubisoft forums with The Division.
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Post by guanxi on May 11, 2017 11:59:38 GMT
You do know there are like 3 books coming right? You do know nobody reads books anymore right? Its why bookstores dont exist outside Zimbabwe. I'm sure Zimbabwean book-store owners are hotly awaiting the latest shipment of primo fanfic about everyones favorite peripheral side characters.
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Post by zaeedisking on May 11, 2017 12:01:57 GMT
Horrible CC... even for BW standards... every Asari having exactly the same face... no autosave feature...clunky dialogue. I mean I can keep going with this stuff if you want but those issues do not amount to .02% percent of the game or w/e arbitrary number you were thinking of. I'm indifferent about ME:A... but I can tell you this that through my entire two PT I never really felt this game lived up to the ME name. You couldn't have been too unhappy about the game if you played through it twice. I've noticed a few of the animation issues, but it hasn't kept me from being more excited for playing the game than looking for audio/video issues. I play on Xbox and my game autosaves all the time, so, not sure what you're talking about there. On a 100 percent scale, what percentage of the game do you actually like vs the issues? I'd say out of curiosity more than anything else... I burned through the first PT just to see what the narrative was all about and whether it had replay value as an RPG. For the autosave issue I should have said the ability to save during priority missions. As for %'s I'd just say that I did enjoy Drak&Vetra and was curious to unlock Dad Ryder's memories... in fact I was way more into the memories portion of the story than the AI itself. It just feels like an incomplete game to me so I'd say that my enjoyment vs disappointment was probably 30/70.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 11, 2017 12:02:40 GMT
Zipzap you used to be a happy drunk.
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Post by kleindropper on May 11, 2017 12:03:26 GMT
Now we know why they didn't sell a season pass. The decision to move on from Andromeda was made a long time ago.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 11, 2017 12:04:22 GMT
Like I said, they've never told us how much Inquistion made them, and they won't tell us about Andromeda either. Listing it as some alarming factor is dumb and ignores precedent. The only people that matter in this entire equation are the investors who have the money and means to keep EA running. The meeting on the 9th was a one-way conversation. That's really, really good. You can say it's positive spin or whatever, but in the end... the investors are still confident. If they're confident, then don't worry about some HORRIBLY written piece by a disreputable site. F*** Kotaku man! I'm not really worried about the Kotaku article, it isn't nearly as negative as it's being spun by some.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 11, 2017 12:05:29 GMT
As someone who appears to spend the majority of their time role playing a Krogan on a fan forum I'd hardly say you're in any position to be taking jabs at others. I have smoldering good looks and a top hat. *Sips Ryncol*
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Post by aglomeracja on May 11, 2017 12:06:04 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. I have to agree with you. I've been on here since the game launched and questioned why all the fuss about the animations. Sure, some are weird and not in synch with the audio/video, but show me a AAA game that's released that doesn't have issues like that. I've played the game everyday and I don't think I'm anywhere near completing it. I find something new to to "wow'd" about everyday, especially since I've found the P.A.W. AR, what a weapon that is, coupled with the electricity mod! Damn, it's a fun weapon. I just hit level 29 and soon I'll have the level V version of it. Sad news about BioWare, and even sadder if no DLC is released because of it. I'm sure all the bitching and moaning had a part in it. People need to chill and just play the game. Facial animations and overall presentation of many characters was worse than in ME1. Fighting, Nomad etc. is and was pretty good. Most critiques I've read barely even mentions that anyway. Sure, there was a lot of memes and comments about it initially because that the first thing that hits you when you're playing the game where every character looks like a wax statue with hyperactive eyeballs. It was bad, but it's certainly not the only reason why this game gets so much flak.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 12:06:52 GMT
I am happy. I have a working game on the PS4. Are you implying that the UNOFFICIAL BSN forums dictated what EA was going to do from the start? Are you implying that all the hate train that run up to the release of the game was because some random poster here on the BSN had anything to do with that? Are you saying that the criticisms weren't valid? Because if you are... I have one word for you. DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPthhhhhhhh. Also, nothing has happened except what EA and Bioware had planned from the start several years back. Kotaku got it wrong. All I'm hearing is that you want us to shut up and just praise Bioware. Sorry. Not sorry. Well I'm glad you're happy now, I assume after the patch took care of the gameplay issues on the PS4 I've read about. I'm saying that all the bitching and moaning I've seen on this forum, other forums, and in the game industry on websites, blog's, etc., has certainly affected the direction EA and Bioware will take with the game. How exactly it will in the end it still TBD, but holy hell, you'd think the game was completely unplayable on all platforms since launch based on the level of complaining going on. Constructive criticism is one thing, flying off the handle like 8 year old's is another (not you), so I'm not saying for anybody to shut up. I'm saying there's a right way and a wrong way to express dissatisfaction. I learned my lesson on the Ubisoft forums with The Division. I hear you and respect your opinion. I'm guilty of being very angry and frustrated with the whole release. I swore off preordering Bioware after Inquisition. I didn't buy the DLC until recently. I bought the game for my friend Paul who has a PS4 (that's a lie. I'm a Bioware junkie and I bought it for myself knowing my rig wasn't good enough to get the full effect of Frostbite) and we couldn't get through the main menu with the game crashing. Since patch 1.05, I was able to get a speed run in before I cashed it in on my aborted 2nd canon run. There were persistent issues with textures going missing and having to reload older saves just to do the side quests. It was incredibly frustrating and I ended up giving Paul his PS4 back. Now, I'm having withdrawals. I just bought the game for the PC at 30% off and shoot I could've waited because the new rig that I'm building (thanks to the help of the Unofficial Forums! Yo, good people here and knowledgeable) won't be ready until early June.
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Post by wolfsite on May 11, 2017 12:07:06 GMT
Well in defense the writer of that book didn't research the ME universe very well. Then who edited it? The same people that did that quality assurance testing on Andromeda? Don't think so, the book wouldn't have been THAT bad if it was. However if the people doing the editing just saw it as a tie-in book for a quick buck that would make sense as I have read many books like these adapted from games and even movies were it is obvious that the writer or Editor did not research the source material enough to the point were the book contradicts something in the original game of movie. A different take also is the novelization of the original Gabriel Knight game (which was written by the game's creator by the way). In the book a number of things were changed from how you sneaked into the police station (minor change) to the dream Gabriel has were he is tested (very major change as the context is completely different). It was written by the games creator but for some reason she made some odd changes that could have worked in the novelization, plus when she remade the game for the 20th Anniversary she put the changes of the book into the game (which really through me off when I was playing it)
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Post by degs29 on May 11, 2017 12:07:10 GMT
maybe they should now concentrate on giving us 'an' ending for the original trilogy? To be honest, I don't want more Shepard but if they went "hey, remember ME3? yeah, so neither do we" and gave it another go I'd be on board. I'd pay with blood if needed. Haha, honestly so would I. But even if they tried doing that, there's no guarantee it would turn out better. I actually liked ME3 a lot, but the ending was disappointing and I really didn't like how they painted themselves into a corner, thereby necessitating the sidestep to Andromeda.
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Post by correctamundo on May 11, 2017 12:07:26 GMT
If they don't wanna continue Andromeda - that's fine, but at least the have to give people who still care some kind of closure DLC - finish Ryder's storyline, Quarian Ark, mysterious benefactor etc. Don't think they have enough time to do anything about Kett or Jaardan if rumours are true. This will remain mystery for good. Didn't I see you wave bye-bye and very firmly proclaim being through with this here game/forum in some other thread? Going back on your word eh?
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Post by wolfsite on May 11, 2017 12:10:10 GMT
You know what I just heard?
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Post by darkway1 on May 11, 2017 12:10:13 GMT
It's clear that Bioware decided they could walk over any sort of logic in the trilogy to make Andromeda happen. They wanted a new start so badly that they didn't even try to explain things. Not only the Arks were impossible and illogical for many reasons, but people that we know in the trilogy knew about them but it was never mentioned, even if there were many, many opportunities to do so. And for what? To create a mediocre, ok-ish game that became a internet joke even before release. To get the franchise to put on hold by EA. It's sad and funny that I was seeing the very first official trailer again, from E3'15, and remembering how I felt that day. The hope, the excitiment of a new Mass Effect game. And that hope was slowly destroyed long before the game came out. But still, even after 100 hours in the main campaign I still wanted to believe that if I just gave the game more time, if I just tried harder it would be all worth it. Well, it wasn't. For me, for many, and for EA. A shame to see my favorite, no, by beloved franchise die, ot at least go into a coma, like this. I feel exactly the same way,after DAI,I honestly expected Bioware to up their game but (for me) Andomeda took everything to a whole new low.News of Bioware's secret IP being an action online focused game highlights a direction even further away from Bioware's roots........kinda feels like the end of an era.Sad.
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Post by degs29 on May 11, 2017 12:10:29 GMT
Can't say I'm surprised by this news. It's what I feared from the fan outcry, which was way too loud for the offense. Yeah, the game was disappointing. But the criticism was so harsh, that I doubt we will benefit from it.
Sucks to have my favorite video game franchise of all time taken off the slate.
Honestly EA, just give me a remaster of the original trilogy, with all DLC, for $100, and that'll keep me for the next five years.
...but you better have something in the works by then!
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 12:11:20 GMT
This sort of thread only makes me think of the Mad Prophet from Mass Effect 2. "Repent! The end is nigh!" I wanted to line him up with my sniper rifle, but I couldn't... damn Paragon.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 12:12:14 GMT
I find it very unelegant to "fix" someone else's post. Apparently you missed the smiley emote indicating it was a joke. Should I use Elcor prefixes to make it more obvious? Please do! I want more Elcor damn it!
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Post by DarkBeaver on May 11, 2017 12:13:23 GMT
I shot him Whaaaaaaaaaaat I shot him, too. I didnt trust him from the start. Didnt drink with him, tried to insult him (it doesnt really let you), and refused to be his 'plus-1'.
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Post by degs29 on May 11, 2017 12:14:51 GMT
I don't understand all the SJW accusations. Yes, Bioware games tend to be more inclusive, and yes the degree to which they do so can sometimes be overbearing. But it's such a minor thing, I'm willing to overlook.
The game has actual flaws. Weakness in story, direction, character models, animations. So yeah, your anti-SJW crusade is annoying as the SJW crusades.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 11, 2017 12:14:51 GMT
If they don't wanna continue Andromeda - that's fine, but at least the have to give people who still care some kind of closure DLC - finish Ryder's storyline, Quarian Ark, mysterious benefactor etc. Don't think they have enough time to do anything about Kett or Jaardan if rumours are true. This will remain mystery for good. Didn't I see you wave bye-bye and very firmly proclaim being through with this here game/forum in some other thread? Going back on your word eh? I am not playing MEA anymore, but It doesn't mean I have no right to comment - or maybe this is your personal Social Network ?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 12:16:36 GMT
Didn't I see you wave bye-bye and very firmly proclaim being through with this here game/forum in some other thread? Going back on your word eh? I am not playing MEA anymore, but It doesn't mean I have no right to comment - or maybe this is your personal Social Network ? In defense of STE100, he's pretty balanced. He's not nearly the ogre I was when the game came out. I was like a junkie who had bought bunk.
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Post by degs29 on May 11, 2017 12:17:17 GMT
I don't even think it was bioware a intention to even reuse Ryder. Maybe. But it does seem odd to leave the mother strand hanging. Unless everything Ryder related was going to be handled in DLC. Does anyone know if the DLC plan is unchanged?
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