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Post by tatsumaki on May 26, 2017 21:41:03 GMT
Don't know about you guys, but my luck with Premiums are exactly the same with Experts. Previously 10 Experts per UR card - 500k (yes hit maximum pity timer)
Now its 10 Premiums per UR card - 1 million (max pity timer again)
Nope - nothing in between.
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Post by Kazu on May 27, 2017 8:00:00 GMT
Don't know about you guys, but my luck with Premiums are exactly the same with Experts. Previously 10 Experts per UR card - 500k (yes hit maximum pity timer) Now its 10 Premiums per UR card - 1 million (max pity timer again) Nope - nothing in between. That's just a dry spell. Sometimes you get that, sometimes you get 3 UR in 8 packs. |
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Post by marinia on May 27, 2017 8:31:06 GMT
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Post by tatsumaki on May 27, 2017 8:33:43 GMT
Don't know about you guys, but my luck with Premiums are exactly the same with Experts. Previously 10 Experts per UR card - 500k (yes hit maximum pity timer) Now its 10 Premiums per UR card - 1 million (max pity timer again) Nope - nothing in between. That's just a dry spell. Sometimes you get that, sometimes you get 3 UR in 8 packs. Wish you were right but you're not. I am *that* guy who has shit luck whenever it comes to RNG. Pre 1.07 I've always paid 500k per UR card. At *best* it was 400k. Thanks to this new system I will now pay 1 million per card. |
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Post by Uchimura on May 27, 2017 9:46:20 GMT
I'm that guy that usually has shit luck in almost every game with RNG.
I'm actually doing quite well after the change from just premium packs.
Just got my first double UR.
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Post by wingerjd on May 27, 2017 10:01:21 GMT
Got two UR in one premium today. Got nothing out of the other three. I could certainly live with that. Overall, I'm at 20% or 500k per UR since update.
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Post by Kazu on May 28, 2017 7:28:05 GMT
Spent a million on a asari duelist upgrade last night (10th pack pity timer).
Somebody end my dry spell please.
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Post by Transcended One on May 28, 2017 7:46:42 GMT
Spent a million on a asari duelist upgrade last night (10th pack pity timer). Somebody end my dry spell please. Dry spells suck. You can open 30 packs and get 3 URs in each tenth pack, and then you'll open 10 packs an get 3 URs. Pity counter works, but it does reset after getting an UR so it seems. |
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Post by gethadept on May 29, 2017 3:39:20 GMT
Yes.
Last 3 million. All got one UR in 10th pack... so 30 packs 3 URs.
I AM SURE BIOWARE MESSED WITH NINJA RNG ADJUSTMENT ONCE AGAIN TO FOOL US.
First few days Premium pack had about 20-25% UR drop rate.
Now solid 10%. (Unless I count lvl IV craps)
....I give up on BW.
One million credits per UR = Death of game. Good job BW.
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Post by donkbettor on May 29, 2017 14:16:49 GMT
Some friends and I tracked our UR-PremiumPack purchases post 1.07. Pooled data:
Total UR: 91
Total PremPacks: 353
Combined drop rate: 25.8%
As previously reported by others, 10 pack pity timer still seemed to be in effect (occurred 7x edit: occurred 4x)
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Post by Transcended One on May 29, 2017 15:46:30 GMT
Yes. Last 3 million. All got one UR in 10th pack... so 30 packs 3 URs. I AM SURE BIOWARE MESSED WITH NINJA RNG ADJUSTMENT ONCE AGAIN TO FOOL US.First few days Premium pack had about 20-25% UR drop rate. Now solid 10%. (Unless I count lvl IV craps) ....I give up on BW. One million credits per UR = Death of game. Good job BW. Like I said, it's possible that the next 10 packs will grant you 3 URs. Or you will suffer the dryspell-sickness just a little bit longer!! |
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Post by kalil on May 29, 2017 15:48:54 GMT
My bet is that given a sufficiently large sample size (a few thousand packs should do it) the drop rate will converge at 21.6%
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Post by Transcended One on May 29, 2017 15:54:42 GMT
My bet is that given a sufficiently large sample size (a few thousand packs should do it) the drop rate will converge at 21.6% I'll go with this estimate. I had 22% in my mind, which was more or less what I've seen from my own experience, and it's double the amount that Expert packs had before their 'fix'. |
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Post by Mobius Y on May 29, 2017 17:20:40 GMT
You pity people with too much cash? 😂 No.. I pity people who waste real money on those packs and get shit in return  I choose to spend my money on games I can play and actual good stuff. That came out a bit wrong. I do own the game, I just mean that instead of wasting real money on the packs and getting nothing in return, I choose to use my money on other games and other stuff but I do own the game itself ofc. What "other games"? Perhaps you meant Mass Effect 3? :rage: |
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Post by OneWomanArmy on May 29, 2017 17:41:56 GMT
No.. I pity people who waste real money on those packs and get shit in return I choose to spend my money on games I can play and actual good stuff. That came out a bit wrong. I do own the game, I just mean that instead of wasting real money on the packs and getting nothing in return, I choose to use my money on other games and other stuff but I do own the game itself ofc. What "other games"? Perhaps you meant Mass Effect 3? :rage: Yessssss you got me  Naaaah I just meant other games in general mobydick  |
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Post by pitka17 on May 29, 2017 18:25:25 GMT
I'm at 14UR in 62PP, hitting the pity count only once.
Based on the old numbers for premiums, which I haven't seen any evidence to indicate they've changed, they have a 24% effective drop rate.
If you model each slot having a 10% chance, plus the pity counter, the drop rate should be 22.9% overall. Occam's Razor says the individual slot drop rate is probably 10%.
Edit: June 1st Update - Now at 20UR in 84PP, which amounts to 23.8% drop rate.
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jun 1, 2017 19:19:41 GMT
This needs an update. There's no way the drop rate stayed at around 25%. Not with the drops I just got. Who else has current data?
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Post by crashsuit on Jun 1, 2017 19:38:22 GMT
They wouldn't have stealth changed the drop rates again, would they? I opened 54 Experts just now to max out the 5 new rare guns and I got 5 URs along the way. Seems like a highly improbable number of URs to get from that many Expert packs given the current drop rates combined with general statistical distribution. Wish I'd recorded it but I didn't anticipate getting an unusual number of URs.
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 1, 2017 19:49:58 GMT
They wouldn't have stealth changed the drop rates again, would they? I opened 54 Experts just now to max out the 5 new rare guns and I got 5 URs along the way. Seems like a highly improbable number of URs to get from that many Expert packs given the current drop rates combined with general statistical distribution. Wish I'd recorded it but I didn't anticipate getting an unusual number of URs. Did you pay attention on getting UR's every 10th pack? Would be a nice comeback for the expert pity timer. But it seems to be more probable you just had some luck. |
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Post by crashsuit on Jun 1, 2017 20:01:55 GMT
They wouldn't have stealth changed the drop rates again, would they? I opened 54 Experts just now to max out the 5 new rare guns and I got 5 URs along the way. Seems like a highly improbable number of URs to get from that many Expert packs given the current drop rates combined with general statistical distribution. Wish I'd recorded it but I didn't anticipate getting an unusual number of URs. Did you pay attention on getting UR's every 10th pack? Would be a nice comeback for the expert pity timer. But it seems to be more probable you just had some luck. I didn't, but 3 of the 5 were in the first 10 packs, and the other 2 were spaced out among the other packs. I may have hit the timer with one of them but I wasn't counting, it's supposed to be 1 in 30 now or something? I was mostly just trying to get through all the packs and be done with it. I also had one double rare pack somewhere towards the end. Oh hey I also just found this post below while I was in the middle of typing this reply. Are we gonna have to retest the drop rates after every patch, update, rebalance, or store addition? Might want to test to see if the drop rate was broken by these new additions. I started purchasing expert packs and got no UR's in the first million then all of sudden the UR drop went extreme. Five expert packs in a row dropped UR's then a few packs later two more consecutive UR drops. Either that is unusual luck or something has changed. |
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Post by ddrguy300 on Jun 1, 2017 20:03:32 GMT
Yes. Last 3 million. All got one UR in 10th pack... so 30 packs 3 URs. I AM SURE BIOWARE MESSED WITH NINJA RNG ADJUSTMENT ONCE AGAIN TO FOOL US.First few days Premium pack had about 20-25% UR drop rate. Now solid 10%. (Unless I count lvl IV craps) ....I give up on BW. One million credits per UR = Death of game. Good job BW. I would love that if when bioware ended support, that the community could somehow take over with our own servers. Actually make the game good/fair/not a complete mess. |
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Post by rlro on Jun 1, 2017 20:23:29 GMT
This needs an update. There's no way the drop rate stayed at around 25%. Not with the drops I just got. Who else has current data? After patch 1.07, I opened 91 Premium packs and I got 25 UR. Longest streak without an UR was 8 packs (I got one in the 9th). Call me lucky if you like, but the drop rate is around 25% for me (I got a UR on the 91st pack, so if I get 9 without a UR the drop rate will be 25%). |
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Post by gethadept on Jun 1, 2017 20:51:33 GMT
From my experience I think the chance of getting a UR per Premium pack is about 15%.
....With 10th pack pity counter included now.
I wonder if BW knows RNG is pointless once they start adjusting it without releasing the RNG numbers.
It`s called a scam. I can`t believe there is no law against this yet.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 1, 2017 21:10:00 GMT
I opened 40 premum packs today. Sadly moronic me didnt count exactly. In them where more than plenty urs, around 10 if I am not misstaken and I dont think I hit the pity timer. Still no Piranha.  |
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Post by Schachmatt123 on Jun 2, 2017 6:56:50 GMT
Opened 43 Premiums today, received 17 UR's. That's 39.5% droprate. Never hit the pity timer.
With the last purchased pack I finally unlocked the valiant, my last missing UR. It took 32 packs to max the "new (HAHA)" rare weapons. The last three (viper) ranks were in three seperate premium packs, it seems like there can't be more than one rank of the same weapon in one pack.
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