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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 5, 2017 14:22:14 GMT
Any suggestion for video recording/editing software for if I record my next purchase? On PC it's heavily dependent upon your graphics card. I believe each major card tries to push its own software. I am not the right person to ask as I'm out of the loop on PC recording. You can instead do the ghetto version where you point your smartphone at your PC monitor and record that way.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 5, 2017 15:12:42 GMT
Any suggestion for video recording/editing software for if I record my next purchase? On PC it's heavily dependent upon your graphics card. I believe each major card tries to push its own software. I am not the right person to ask as I'm out of the loop on PC recording. You can instead do the ghetto version where you point your smartphone at your PC monitor and record that way. Tried the ghetto version, that would require to split it into different parts because of availble memory and quality. Yeah there are different things for recording alone, but i thought there might be some good standard to use for editing. Since it seems to fit:
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 5, 2017 15:25:50 GMT
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Post by crashsuit on Jun 5, 2017 17:50:35 GMT
MSI Afterburner is another option. It's free, has lots of recording options, and is fairly light on resources. All the in-game stuff I post here is captured with MSI Afterburner.
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Post by zeph on Jun 6, 2017 18:25:40 GMT
With the new 'S' editions of weapons available for unlock I decided it was time to use my 30 million creds and open PP cases. The outcome was all 'S' weapons maxed out and 7 UR's. I noticed once my PP hit my pity counter, more UR's dropped at a higher rate. I even unlocked 2 UR's in one crate before completing the 'S' manifest.
Adding more data to the pool.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 7, 2017 7:01:40 GMT
We make a new topic for 1.08? They might gonna "fix" the rates again.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 7, 2017 20:31:42 GMT
We make a new topic for 1.08? They might gonna "fix" the rates again. Since there are going to be all sorts of new packs, yeah there definitely needs to be a fresh thread and all 1.07 and previous data should be considered archival. JRandall0308, have you understood and assimilated what I was getting at earlier? There's no such thing as "every 10th pack regardless" UR from premiums.
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Post by Uchimura on Jun 7, 2017 20:45:35 GMT
Yea, OBS is good. Lightweight output by default. Nvidia lost me when they tried to push yet another platform. I'm annoyed at peripheral logins as is.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 7, 2017 20:52:26 GMT
JRandall0308, have you understood and assimilated what I was getting at earlier? There's no such thing as "every 10th pack regardless" UR from premiums. I am still not convinced because my own data, and that from others, showed that when buying nothing but premiums in a row the pity RNG worked. I don't know what exactly was breaking it, maybe certain other types of packs (no Supply, yes Advanced - maybe?). But agreed it is all irrelevant now.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 7, 2017 21:21:36 GMT
JRandall0308 , have you understood and assimilated what I was getting at earlier? There's no such thing as "every 10th pack regardless" UR from premiums. I am still not convinced because my own data, and that from others, showed that when buying nothing but premiums in a row the pity RNG worked. I don't know what exactly was breaking it, maybe certain other types of packs (no Supply, yes Advanced - maybe?). But agreed it is all irrelevant now. Yes, it does work, because "pity RNG" means if you haven't gotten one in the previous 9 packs, you get a UR on the 10th. But that's all it means, and any other UR you get other than the streakbreaker is pure random chance. There simply is no data anywhere, not yours, not anyone else's, showing otherwise. The new packs are either going to not affect the PP timer, or share it, I'd wager. So understanding this mechanic is still valuable.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 7, 2017 21:23:16 GMT
OK ? I don't care any more, as of 1.08 everything we think we knew is irrelevant.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 8, 2017 8:05:12 GMT
Any ideas how to go about drop rates with the upcoming patch? Maybe we have to do individual spread sheets for each kind of premium pack.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 8, 2017 11:36:08 GMT
Any ideas how to go about drop rates with the upcoming patch? Maybe we have to do individual spread sheets for each kind of premium pack. Yes. Record and track everything. If you buy 3 Arsenals on a whim, then next day buy 27 Jumbos, record and track it. Because we now have no idea what's what.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 8, 2017 12:21:27 GMT
I have 4 millions saved up with no concrete spending goal. Either I dump them all into the weapon packs in hope to finally get my piranha, or just stick to regular premium packs.
On the other hand I dont really want to be the person to dip his toe into the water to see if there is a pity timer in place for those packs.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 8, 2017 12:47:55 GMT
Hypotheses: - When you buy nothing but Premium Packs in a row with no breaks, every 10th pack will grant you a UR *regardless* of what happened with other UR drops.
(strong Premium Pack pity RNG claim) - When you buy nothing but Premium Packs in a row with no breaks, if you have *not* received a UR by the 10th pack, the 10th pack will contain a UR. (weak Premium Pack pity RNG claim, and much harder to disprove because of UR drop rates)
- Repeat above two but replace with Reserves and Arsenal Packs. (strong and weak Reserves and Arsenals pity RNG claims)
- When you buy any group of 100,000-credit cost packs in a row with no breaks, every 10th pack will grant you a UR *regardless* of what happened with other UR drops. (strong mixed pack pity RNG claim)
- When you buy any group of 100,000-credit cost packs in a row with no breaks, if you have *not* received a UR by the 10th pack, the 10th pack will contain a UR. (weak mixed pack pity RNG claim)
- As above, but mixing in various breakers; for example:
- Buying a single Supply / Basic / Advanced / Expert pack anywhere in the row of 100,000-credit packs will have no effect on the pity RNG.
- Buying up to N Supply / Basic / Advanced / Expert pack anywhere in the row of 100,000-credit packs will have no effect on the pity RNG. Test for N = 9,
N = 10, N = 11 to start with. - Exiting the store and doing something else in the same game session will have no effect on the pity RNG.
- Exiting MP, then re-entering, will have no effect on pity RNG.
- Exiting MP, force-quitting the application, then re-entering, will have no effect on pity RNG.
- Exiting MP, force-quitting, and restarting your platform, will have no effect on pity RNG.
- Console updates will have no effect on pity RNG.
- MEA patches that do not *specifically* state they changed drop rates nor introduced new packs will have no effect on pity RNG.
Have fun testing!
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Post by N7_CAT on Jun 8, 2017 14:10:52 GMT
Hi,
I got scared that today Bioware would fix another bug and spent my 30M buying Premium Packs. Video exists if needed, but I need to edit it to smaller file size before uploading!
I was writing long detailed results just now, but messed up my stats a little and now need to do my Apex missions, before patch.
Read about the discussion about how the pity timer works. Can confirm - pity timer resets after each UR!
300 Premium Packs = 82 UR (triple-checked). UR drop rate in this 30M = 27.3%
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 8, 2017 14:17:46 GMT
spent my 30M buying Premium Packs I would be very interested in seeing a simple log of all packs with notations for which contained URs. Then if I don't believe you I'll ask for video proof. Although this is all academic at this point given that 1.08 will introduce an entirely new set of hypotheses to test.
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Post by Transcended One on Jun 8, 2017 15:50:46 GMT
MSI Afterburner is another option. It's free, has lots of recording options, and is fairly light on resources. All the in-game stuff I post here is captured with MSI Afterburner. That's actually a good one, since I always have Afterburner running in the background for slight GPU-overclock. Also use it to make screenshots. Hypotheses: - When you buy nothing but Premium Packs in a row with no breaks, every 10th pack will grant you a UR *regardless* of what happened with other UR drops.
(strong Premium Pack pity RNG claim)
You really still believe this claim? When I'm suffering from a dry spell, at least I always get an UR in every 10th pack, even 4 times in a row for example, but NEVER more than 10 packs.
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 8, 2017 16:12:31 GMT
Hypotheses: - When you buy nothing but Premium Packs in a row with no breaks, every 10th pack will grant you a UR *regardless* of what happened with other UR drops.
(strong Premium Pack pity RNG claim)
You really still believe this claim? I believe that the hypothesis needs to be re-tested, yes.
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Post by N7_CAT on Jun 8, 2017 17:31:41 GMT
spent my 30M buying Premium Packs I would be very interested in seeing a simple log of all packs with notations for which contained URs. Then if I don't believe you I'll ask for video proof. Although this is all academic at this point given that 1.08 will introduce an entirely new set of hypotheses to test. Academic yes, but can be used to compare new stuff. I put dududu song on repeat to not go insane while watching the video for 2nd time. Number indicates pack number from last UR: 2. Inferno I 8. Rozerad VI 8. Piranha VI 2. Black Widow V 1. Valiant VI 2. Valkyrie VII 4. Angara Avenger IV 9. Angara Avanger V / Human Kineticist VI (DOUBLE) 1. Krogan Gladiator VI 3. Human Kineticist VII 6. Dahn VI 7. Naladen I 1. Soned VII 2. Hurricane VI 1. Naladen II 10. Krogan Gladiator VII 7. Angara Avenger VI 2. Black Widow VI 8. Salarian Operator II 10. Soned VIII 4. Ushior VIII 3. Krogan Gladiator VIII 10. Crusader IX / P.A.W. VII (DOUBLE) 10. Naladen III 10. Angara Avenger VII / Dahn VIII (DOUBLE) 10. Soned IX 1. Crusader X 8. Salarian Operator III 1. Krogan Gladiator IX 1. Valiant VII 3. Human Kineticist VIII 3. Angara Avenger VIII 3. Human Kineticist IX 1. Hurricane VII 2. Ushior IX 8. Piranha VII 9. Krogan Gladiator X 1. Soned X 10. Inferno II 1. Dahn IX 3. Black Widow VII 2. Salarian Operator IV 4. Valiant VIII 1. P.A.W. VIII 5. Salarian Operator V 2. Eagle II / Piranha VIII (DOUBLE) 7. Valkyrie VIII 1. Angara Avenger IX 1. Human Kineticist X 1. Angara Avenger X / Salarian Operator VI (DOUBLE) 1. Salarian Operator VII 10. Piranha IX / Salarian Operator VIII (DOUBLE) 3. Piranha X 2. Salarian Operator IX 2. Valkyrie IX 1. Eagle III 2. Salarian Operator X 3. Asari Duelist V 3. Black Widow VIII 2. Black Widow IX 2. Asari Duelist VI 1. Asari Duelist VII 1. Asari Duelist VIII / Dahn X (DOUBLE) 10. Eagle IV / Asari Duelist IX (DOUBLE) 1. Hurricane VIII 4. Eagle V 4. Asari Duelist X 1. Inferno III 1. Valkyrie X 6. P.A.W. IX 4. Eagle IV 6. Rozerad VII / Black Widow X (DOUBLE) 10. Hurricane IX
73 lines + 9 from double packs = 82. Hopefully no mistakes.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 8, 2017 19:08:55 GMT
Purchased straight Arsenal packs for 4 Million credits. 7 UR, 6 weapons, one character. Video will be uploaded later.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 9, 2017 0:48:27 GMT
For ease of data review and discussion, I'd suggest a common format for pack data, like PACK NUMBER | UR PRESENT | PACKS SINCE LAST UR | 1 | Ushior VI | 3 | 2 | N/A | 1 |
This would assume premium packs only so any deviation should also be noted.
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Post by Kazu on Jun 9, 2017 7:33:06 GMT
For ease of data review and discussion, I'd suggest a common format for pack data, like PACK NUMBER | UR PRESENT | PACKS SINCE LAST UR | 1 | Ushior VI | 3 | 2 | N/A | 1 |
This would assume premium packs only so any deviation should also be noted. Maybe we can make a google spreadsheet document and either share it or everybody can make his/her own copy?
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Post by JRandall0308 on Jun 9, 2017 13:33:18 GMT
For ease of data review and discussion, I'd suggest a common format for pack data, like PACK NUMBER | UR PRESENT | PACKS SINCE LAST UR | 1 | Ushior VI | 3 | 2 | N/A | 1 |
This would assume premium packs only so any deviation should also be noted. Here is the format I use - suppressing the detail columns: Date Purchased | Type | Pack Number | # URs | Packs Since Last UR | Post 1.07 Premium Pack Counter | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 158 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 159 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 160 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 161 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 162 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 163 | 0 | 5 | 6 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 164 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 165 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 166 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 167 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 168 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 169 | 0 | 1 | 12 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 170 | 0 | 2 | 13 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 171 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 172 | 0 | 4 | 15 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 173 | 0 | 5 | 16 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 174 | 0 | 6 | 17 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 175 | 1 | 0 | 18 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 176 | 0 | 1 | 19 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 177 | 0 | 2 | 20 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 178 | 1 | 0 | 21 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 179 | 1 | 0 | 22 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 180 | 0 | 1 | 23 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 181 | 0 | 2 | 24 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 182 | 0 | 3 | 25 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 183 | 0 | 4 | 26 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 184 | 0 | 5 | 27 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 185 | 0 | 6 | 28 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 186 | 0 | 7 | 29 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 187 | 0 | 8 | 30 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 188 | 1 | 0 | 31 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 189 | 0 | 1 | 32 | 5/21/2017 | Supply | S | | | | 5/21/2017 | Basic | B | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 190 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 191 | 0 | 1 | 34 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 192 | 0 | 2 | 35 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 193 | 1 | 0 | 36 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 194 | 0 | 1 | 37 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 195 | 1 | 0 | 38 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 196 | 0 | 1 | 39 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 197 | 0 | 2 | 40 | 6/1/2017 | Expert | 198 | 0 | 3 | 40 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 199 | 1 | 0 | 41 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 200 | 0 | 1 | 42 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 201 | 0 | 2 | 43 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 202 | 0 | 3 | 44 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 203 | 1 | 0 | 45 | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 204 | 0 | 1 | 46 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 205 | 0 | 2 | 47 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 206 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 207 | 1 | 0 | 49 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 208 | 0 | 1 | 50 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 209 | 1 | 0 | 51 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 210 | 0 | 1 | 52 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 211 | 0 | 2 | 53 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 212 | 0 | 3 | 54 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 213 | 1 | 0 | 55 | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 214 | 0 | 1 | 56 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 215 | 0 | 2 | 57 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 216 | 0 | 3 | 58 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 217 | 1 | 0 | 59 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 218 | 0 | 1 | 60 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 219 | 0 | 2 | 61 |
Here is my spreadsheet. I'm not sharing it in edit mode because when I did this during the DAI MP days, people kept vandalizing my sheet and I had to keep reverting changes. But feel free to make a copy. Yes, this is a seriously OCD level of tracking. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lmof5dVoHD4W-j3_A6FmujLiiwLDHX66qCHA3BCuFrk/edit?usp=sharingAlso given we have anecdotal evidence that the 1.08 patch reset the pity RNG I think we do need a new topic with "1.08" in the title.
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Post by lennybusker on Jun 9, 2017 16:21:42 GMT
Here is the format I use - suppressing the detail columns: Date Purchased | Type | Pack Number | # URs | Packs Since Last UR | Post 1.07 Premium Pack Counter | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 158 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 159 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 160 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 161 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 162 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 163 | 0 | 5 | 6 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 164 | 1 | 0 | 7 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 165 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 166 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 167 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 168 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 169 | 0 | 1 | 12 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 170 | 0 | 2 | 13 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 171 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 172 | 0 | 4 | 15 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 173 | 0 | 5 | 16 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 174 | 0 | 6 | 17 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 175 | 1 | 0 | 18 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 176 | 0 | 1 | 19 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 177 | 0 | 2 | 20 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 178 | 1 | 0 | 21 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 179 | 1 | 0 | 22 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 180 | 0 | 1 | 23 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 181 | 0 | 2 | 24 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 182 | 0 | 3 | 25 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 183 | 0 | 4 | 26 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 184 | 0 | 5 | 27 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 185 | 0 | 6 | 28 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 186 | 0 | 7 | 29 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 187 | 0 | 8 | 30 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 188 | 1 | 0 | 31 | 5/20/2017 | Premium | 189 | 0 | 1 | 32 | 5/21/2017 | Supply | S | | | | 5/21/2017 | Basic | B | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 190 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 191 | 0 | 1 | 34 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 192 | 0 | 2 | 35 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 193 | 1 | 0 | 36 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 194 | 0 | 1 | 37 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 195 | 1 | 0 | 38 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 196 | 0 | 1 | 39 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 197 | 0 | 2 | 40 | 6/1/2017 | Expert | 198 | 0 | 3 | 40 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 199 | 1 | 0 | 41 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 200 | 0 | 1 | 42 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 201 | 0 | 2 | 43 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 202 | 0 | 3 | 44 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 203 | 1 | 0 | 45 | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 204 | 0 | 1 | 46 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 205 | 0 | 2 | 47 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 206 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 207 | 1 | 0 | 49 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 208 | 0 | 1 | 50 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 209 | 1 | 0 | 51 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 210 | 0 | 1 | 52 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 211 | 0 | 2 | 53 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 212 | 0 | 3 | 54 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 213 | 1 | 0 | 55 | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Advanced | A | | | | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 214 | 0 | 1 | 56 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 215 | 0 | 2 | 57 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 216 | 0 | 3 | 58 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 217 | 1 | 0 | 59 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 218 | 0 | 1 | 60 | 6/1/2017 | Premium | 219 | 0 | 2 | 61 |
Here is my spreadsheet. I'm not sharing it in edit mode because when I did this during the DAI MP days, people kept vandalizing my sheet and I had to keep reverting changes. But feel free to make a copy. Yes, this is a seriously OCD level of tracking. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lmof5dVoHD4W-j3_A6FmujLiiwLDHX66qCHA3BCuFrk/edit?usp=sharingAlso given we have anecdotal evidence that the 1.08 patch reset the pity RNG I think we do need a new topic with "1.08" in the title.Nice format. Some interesting observations, combining mine, yours and Forkinators' lists (I don't know of anyone else with LARGE SERIES of results) i.imgur.com/qiOhq3a.pngAgreed that we should jump to a new 1.08 thread. Feel like making it? I have some work shit to do for a few hours. edit: Also, just as I predicted, not even your data supports a "strong pity timer" as you put it. Still don't know how in the world you got that.
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