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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 14, 2020 8:32:21 GMT
I mean, I didn't forget. I personally just lump that into the transhumanism. Because how can someone be racist when you've reached a point where you don't know what even being human is? Because everything boils down into an either social or racial enclave in the game? Its either all about the corps or its all about race, its either all borgs and skins or its all about race, from the background fluff to the actual factions described in the modules of 2020 its the world and a major piece of it and it falls well away of just being another element of transhumanism. Also I do hope they include the 14mm Borg rifle because I just remember loving the fact you could augment yourself to the point of being able to shoot a fully automatic 14mm style battle rifle There is no skins anymore. Skin is ad-space or tweaked by a meat job around the corner. Face and hair , too. There is no chrome either. Race is an obsolete criterium in the CP setting.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 14, 2020 13:02:01 GMT
Because everything boils down into an either social or racial enclave in the game? Its either all about the corps or its all about race, its either all borgs and skins or its all about race, from the background fluff to the actual factions described in the modules of 2020 its the world and a major piece of it and it falls well away of just being another element of transhumanism. Also I do hope they include the 14mm Borg rifle because I just remember loving the fact you could augment yourself to the point of being able to shoot a fully automatic 14mm style battle rifle There is no skins anymore. That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 14, 2020 13:17:31 GMT
There is no skins anymore. That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. You confuse skin colour with belonging to a social group. Skin colour doesn't matter anymore when you can change it daily and have can plastic surgery every week or exchange a chrome limb for another. Every Asian can look like European and every American can look like African. But if you like you can headcanon they all look European now neatly.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 14, 2020 13:18:17 GMT
There is no skins anymore. That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. Also it is a fictitious setting. Nothing to do with reality.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 14, 2020 13:55:41 GMT
There is no skins anymore. That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. I don't think "race" is the right term to use. It's association by similarity/contiguity which will never go away, humans just feel safer around things that look/behave like them. Appearance is the lowest common denominator with this association process, which is why skin color is such a divisive factor, but not the only one. Corporations don't care about your races (or gender), but they do care that you keep up to a certain standard of behavior and appearance befitting a Corporate. Valentinos aren't Latino exclusive even if they are poser Don Juan and the majority of members are Latino (even more in CP2077 apparently). They seems to have changed for CP2077 thought as they didn't care about having a turf back in CP2020 and their only interest was seducing pretty women. They were also male-only back then but aren't anymore. The Voodoos used to be white dudes pretending they were Haitians via cybernetics. I'm a bit pissed they turned them into a true Haitian gang for 2077, as the old concept was peak Weeb (but with Haiti instead of Japan), a socio-cultural phenomenon rarely tackled by medias. It also showed that you could easily change yourself to be something else if you wanted.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jul 14, 2020 15:11:59 GMT
That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. I don't think "race" is the right term to use. It's association by similarity/contiguity which will never go away, humans just feel safer around things that look/behave like them. Appearance is the lowest common denominator with this association process, which is why skin color is such a divisive factor, but not the only one. Corporations don't care about your races (or gender), but they do care that you keep up to a certain standard of behavior and appearance befitting a Corporate. Valentinos aren't Latino exclusive even if they are poser Don Juan and the majority of members are Latino (even more in CP2077 apparently). They seems to have changed for CP2077 thought as they didn't care about having a turf back in CP2020 and their only interest was seducing pretty women. They were also male-only back then but aren't anymore. The Voodoos used to be white dudes pretending they were Haitians via cybernetics. I'm a bit pissed they turned them into a true Haitian gang for 2077, as the old concept was peak Weeb (but with Haiti instead of Japan), a socio-cultural phenomenon rarely tackled by medias. It also showed that you could easily change yourself to be something else if you wanted. I mean it sounds to me like the change was Mike's idea.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 14, 2020 18:47:15 GMT
That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. You confuse skin colour with belonging to a social group. I don't? I just also don't forget all the supremacist movements that spring from racial motivations, nor do I forget race exclusive organizations and their ilk though I am sure if I pointed that out I am sure that people would find some snippet I missed back in the core books that the Red Chrome boys actually aren't all white aryans? Oh wait, they are *snort* Its as if this line of logic just exists to make people think groupings like that aren't apart of the setting or something. So no I think you just need to reread the source material rather then tell me I am confused when I ran a module of 2020 not even a year back. ._.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 14, 2020 18:51:50 GMT
That is flatly inaccurate in both point and reality. From the various gangs, to the corps themselves, everyone is fixated upon race because they are all in a constant struggle with each other, they are all rivals and also? I don't need to even challenge this point anyone who played Cyberpunk at all knows about all this shit unless if their DM was just absolute hot fucking trash. I don't think "race" is the right term to use. It's association by similarity/contiguity which will never go away And gasp for some groupings in the setting it exists outside the scope of the transhumanist point of the narrative. ._. Seriously not everything in the setting is brain dances and doing a damn near overdose cocktail of rambo before kicking the front door of a pharmacy in to steal more of it and Cyberpsychos Sometimes it is just what you see on the tin and that's what makes the setting fun, you have the diversity of narrative, encounter and social choice that the world grants.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 15, 2020 0:33:10 GMT
You confuse skin colour with belonging to a social group. I don't? I just also don't forget all the supremacist movements that spring from racial motivations, nor do I forget race exclusive organizations and their ilk though I am sure if I pointed that out I am sure that people would find some snippet I missed back in the core books that the Red Chrome boys actually aren't all white aryans? Oh wait, they are *snort* Its as if this line of logic just exists to make people think groupings like that aren't apart of the setting or something. So no I think you just need to reread the source material rather then tell me I am confused when I ran a module of 2020 not even a year back. ._. I don't treat "source material" with biblical devotion. That stuff is there to inspire role play, not for listening to lore fundamentalists.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 15, 2020 3:26:20 GMT
I don't? I just also don't forget all the supremacist movements that spring from racial motivations, nor do I forget race exclusive organizations and their ilk though I am sure if I pointed that out I am sure that people would find some snippet I missed back in the core books that the Red Chrome boys actually aren't all white aryans? Oh wait, they are *snort* Its as if this line of logic just exists to make people think groupings like that aren't apart of the setting or something. So no I think you just need to reread the source material rather then tell me I am confused when I ran a module of 2020 not even a year back. ._. I don't treat "source material" with biblical devotion. That stuff is there to inspire role play, not for listening to lore fundamentalists. So you acknowledge that you were wrong? Given this spiel here has nothing to do with the prior discussion
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 15, 2020 7:29:38 GMT
I don't treat "source material" with biblical devotion. That stuff is there to inspire role play, not for listening to lore fundamentalists. So you acknowledge that you were wrong? Given this spiel here has nothing to do with the prior discussion Wrong about what? A free-form fiction?
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 15, 2020 19:13:56 GMT
So you acknowledge that you were wrong? Given this spiel here has nothing to do with the prior discussion Wrong about what? A free-form fiction? Funny how it shifts away from the whole: Race and what have you don't matter when you can install em, blah blah blah blah blah shit to now well: It doesn't have to be that way So yeah I will take this as a concession as the prior topic seems unwilling to resurface via you now that I apparently know what I am talking about. Groovy.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jul 15, 2020 19:44:02 GMT
btw, will they pull a robocop reference in this game?
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Post by slimgrin727 on Jul 15, 2020 19:50:29 GMT
btw, will they pull a robocop reference in this game? More like what references won't they have. CDPR love easter eggs. I personally only care about two. Ciri, who is confirmed, and this guy:
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 15, 2020 22:06:36 GMT
btw, will they pull a robocop reference in this game? More like what references won't they have. CDPR love easter eggs. I personally only care about two. Ciri, who is confirmed, and this guy: I almost would put money on there being someone who says “I never asked for this.” But it’ll be interesting to see what other cyberpunk series they reference.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jul 16, 2020 1:54:11 GMT
More like what references won't they have. CDPR love easter eggs. I personally only care about two. Ciri, who is confirmed, and this guy: But it’ll be interesting to see what other cyberpunk series they reference. Ghost in the Shell is practically a given since they've already long ago confirmed Arasaka in game o.o If I had to pose a guess off the top of my head? Either a name or a poster.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 16, 2020 8:17:34 GMT
Wrong about what? A free-form fiction? Funny how it shifts away from the whole: Race and what have you don't matter when you can install em, blah blah blah blah blah shit to now well: It doesn't have to be that way So yeah I will take this as a concession as the prior topic seems unwilling to resurface via you now that I apparently know what I am talking about. Groovy. That's because you consistently fail to deliver content to discuss. Screeching about how people are wrong just doesnt cut it.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jul 16, 2020 11:10:56 GMT
Apologies if already posted. This guy is why ppl think I'm weird for playing video games.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 16, 2020 20:37:53 GMT
Apologies if already posted. This guy is why ppl think I'm weird for playing video games. I mean...I just saw a video thumbnail that reports on taser nipples so, I guess anything is possible at this point.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jul 16, 2020 21:20:49 GMT
Apologies if already posted. This guy is why ppl think I'm weird for playing video games. I mean...I just saw a video thumbnail that reports on taser nipples so, I guess anything is possible at this point. Tame. Bonespike, Mandibles, Cybersnake, Poison Fangs, Modular Hands. If you have a medtech at hand I'm sure they can rig anything up with electricity, poison, AP. Tails, ears, digitigrade legs and a facejob can turn you into anything. Exoskeleton, machine link, neuro interface who needs a bag of flesh when you can plugyourself into a machine?
That is, of course old school CP 2020 and I'm sure a video game will be severely limited in creativity compared to tabletop.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 16, 2020 22:26:09 GMT
Bonespike, Mandibles, Cybersnake, Poison Fangs, Modular Hands. I don't see how any of those are as much fun as taser nipples.
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jul 16, 2020 23:37:33 GMT
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