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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 16:24:13 GMT
When did Garrus kill one of the companions? Must have missed that little gem in all my playthroughs. During the coup
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Post by vonuber on May 23, 2017 16:30:23 GMT
When did Garrus kill one of the companions? Must have missed that little gem in all my playthroughs. During the coup That's not Garrus specific though. The only specific one I can think of is Ash on Virmire.
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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 16:33:28 GMT
That's not Garrus specific though. The only specific one I can think of is Ash on Virmire. You did ask when did Garrus kill a companion
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Post by sdzald on May 23, 2017 16:38:09 GMT
I think a good addition to Bioware games would be the ability to straight up kill companions if you decide - Garrus style. I would shoot Peebee right in her fat ugly face and made a sarcastic comment about it. i would not even waste a bullet on her. At the end of her loyalty mission, just as I step on the shuttle to leave the volcano world, I would of looked at PeeBee and said. "I sure hope you came up with a good plan to get off this rock." As I slammed the door in her face and left her behind. But as with sooooooo many things in MEA Ryder has NO real choice in anything he/she says or does.
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Post by caterpillar on May 23, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
For me, nothing beats the Turian councilor using air quotes.
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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 16:45:06 GMT
i would not even waste a bullet on her. At the end of her loyalty mission, just as I step on the shuttle to leave the volcano world, I would of looked at PeeBee and said. "I sure hope you came up with a good plan to get off this rock." As I slammed the door in her face and left her behind. But as with sooooooo many things in MEA Ryder has NO real choice in anything he/she says or does. That's what I would do. My Shepard would have thrown her in the lava. I like for my Ryder to turn her over to Nexus security for her to explain why she put the pathfinder's life in danger while using Initiative property especially since that property is the ships escape pod. If they ask what would be a good punishment. Throw her back in cyro or send her to H-047c to help mine helium-3
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Post by correctamundo on May 23, 2017 16:57:02 GMT
I think this is all a bunch of nitpicking that disregards the fact that no mass effect alien species is really anything more than humans that look different. They're all familiar with humans, use their phrases frequently, act like them emotionally... etc. Mass Effect is pretty much space fluff. The only game that made any real attempt at something interestingly alien was ME1 with the Rachni. So nothing PB says makes me cringe, it's just par for the course. Same with the Angaran. To expect more was not very realistic. The time to walk back things would have been some kind of customer revolt at ME2, which went for rool of cool for whatever reason (I'm sure SuperMac had a hand in it, but I don't he takes sole blame). Mass Effect Retrospective 1: The Ages of BioWare www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27792All that said, I'm not a Bioware basher. Their games are fun and put a lot of what I want into their games. Totally agree, this is the real world and sometimes I feel like people have ridiculously high expectations for every single aspect of the game. If all of these things were actually addressed in game the writing could end up being lines and lines of explanations and context and it'd just be shit. There are some odd (to me) complaints out there where everything has to be explicitly explained or else it is bad writing. Like after the neutron purge on Habitat 7. Instead of a cut in the scene we would have to sit there looking at an unconscious Ryder for 3-4-5-10 (?) minutes befor Alec shows up. And then we have to wait for Ryder to get into full respiratory failure before Alec understands that "buddy-breathing" is not going to work here. And then we should have to wait for the shuttle which takes longer to get there than the optimistic 3-4 minutes. I can think of better usage of cinematics.
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Post by sdzald on May 23, 2017 16:59:57 GMT
i would not even waste a bullet on her. At the end of her loyalty mission, just as I step on the shuttle to leave the volcano world, I would of looked at PeeBee and said. "I sure hope you came up with a good plan to get off this rock." As I slammed the door in her face and left her behind. But as with sooooooo many things in MEA Ryder has NO real choice in anything he/she says or does. That's what I would do. My Shepard would have thrown her in the lava. I like for my Ryder to turn her over to Nexus security for her to explain why she put the pathfinder's life in danger while using Initiative property especially since that property is the ships escape pod. If they ask what would be a good punishment. Throw her back in cyro or send her to H-047c to help mine helium-3 She not only risked Ryders life but what ever squad mate you brought along. I never cared much for her to start with but from the instant she hit the escape pod button I was looking for ways to kill her. I even killed her ex lover because I knew it would upset her. There is NO way I would of taken her off that rock.
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Post by kelarqshah on May 23, 2017 17:01:43 GMT
It's definitely a poorly edited line of dialogue. But, I guess you can excuse it because imagine the cultural fascination people would have when discovering a new race. Then add 26 years for our memes to permeate the extranet and for the interstellar version of Disney to buy all our franchises for live-action cross species remakes and adding Blasto to the Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's a beautiful future
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Post by liquidsnake on May 23, 2017 17:03:10 GMT
That's not Garrus specific though. The only specific one I can think of is Ash on Virmire. You did ask when did Garrus kill a companion Still isn't Garrus specific though. If you don't have him in your squad for that mission and you kind of sucked through the game so that someone HAD to kill the Virmire survivor during the coup, he doesn't do anything at all. Even EDI can be the one who pulled the trigger in that scene. It would have been more appropriate to say "[SNIP] straight up kill companions if you decide - Ashley style." Or it would have been okay to even say "[SNIP] straight up kill companions if you decide - Shepard style." because Sheppy also has the option to kill multiple different people through the games including Wrex, Mordin, Ashley/Kaiden.. Ashley kills Wrex regardless of anyone else present on Virmire if you can't contain the situation and a lot of people cite that as something else they hate about her. Though since I do like Ashley and I do like Wrex and I helped him out in his quests and talked him down, he has never died in any of ME playthrough's so even that would mean nothing to me since it's non-canon to my story. At least I would have understood the reference. Still it's strange it would be okay to some fans if it's Garrus actually flat out murdering a squadmate who isn't threatening us. Maybe it would be a good option to have optional squadmates like in ME1 in future games. Where you don't HAVE to recruit people if you don't want to and their content is just content you don't get in the game but isn't replaced with anything else. Heck, you don't even have to recruit Garrus to your team in ME1 at all. You can meet him for the first time in ME2 since he informed you he is the C-Sec officer investigating Saren. Since I actually like all the MEA companions, I could get all the content, but if someone hates Peebee, they have the option to refuse her coming to the Tempest, but don't get an alternate companion. I'd be okay with that.
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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 17:22:48 GMT
Still isn't Garrus specific though. If you don't have him in your squad for that mission and you kind of sucked through the game so that someone HAD to kill the Virmire survivor during the coup, he doesn't do anything at all. Even EDI can be the one who pulled the trigger in that scene. Specific or not, the question asked was when did Garrus kill a companion. Its during the coup. Yes he has to be taken on that mission, but he still shoots A/K if the conditions are met, just like if the other squadmates are taken on the mission. The player doesn't have to be bad in the game to shoot A/K. They can be shot even if Shepard was nice to them. I know. I've done it. I was surprised there was no option to not recruit squadmates in MEA
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Post by xassantex on May 23, 2017 17:38:40 GMT
she watched pirate movies and the entire Zorro series. ..both inspirational to her lifestyle.
"so much violence"
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Post by wellsoul2 on May 23, 2017 20:06:36 GMT
There is a history of Science Fiction being thinly veiled criticism or analysis of cultural trends of the day.
Why does Ryder have flatscreen tv's in their cabin? Shouldn't TV look different after hundreds of years?
Anyway...I can explain Peebee's remark and even Vetra's latin remark..
Humans are the new kid on the block so all their fiction, history and theater are new to Asari and Turians,etc.
All these other Milky Way races have had many years to become bored and jaded with their own and other races stories.
So what do they do when humans come along with Homer, Robert Louis Stephenson and Steven King? They read the new stories to understand humans and someone gets the idea to merchandise them and so many are familiar with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 20:08:35 GMT
Maybe it would be a good option to have optional squadmates like in ME1 in future games. Where you don't HAVE to recruit people if you don't want to and their content is just content you don't get in the game but isn't replaced with anything else. Unfortunately, it would end up meaning that BioWare either can't make followers plot-relevant or they'd have to provide substitutes. Can you imagine the whining if someone did actually choose not to recruit Peebee and still expected to have a remnant VI available? As much as people claim to want choices with consequences, the reality is that a lot of them really don't want to be stuck with such consequences.
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Post by goishen on May 23, 2017 20:59:39 GMT
I've never heard of such an awesome sea of ignorance as to compare space to the ocean.
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Post by themikefest on May 23, 2017 21:34:19 GMT
Unfortunately, it would end up meaning that BioWare either can't make followers plot-relevant or they'd have to provide substitutes. Can you imagine the whining if someone did actually choose not to recruit Peebee and still expected to have a remnant VI available? As much as people claim to want choices with consequences, the reality is that a lot of them really don't want to be stuck with such consequences. How much whinng do you believe would there be? It can be like ME2. Once a squadmate is recruited and their loyalty mission is completed, the player can choose that bonus power for future playthroughs without having to recruit that squadmate again.
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Post by kenshen19 on May 23, 2017 21:58:44 GMT
I think a good addition to Bioware games would be the ability to straight up kill companions if you decide - Garrus style. I would shoot Peebee right in her fat ugly face and made a sarcastic comment about it. When did Garrus kill one of the companions? Must have missed that little gem in all my playthroughs. Unless of course you are referencing that 'comic' written by a 10 year-old edgelord, which has nothing to do with ME. Well in ME2 during his loyalty mission he will snipe a former companion if you let him.
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Post by vonuber on May 23, 2017 22:07:18 GMT
But as with sooooooo many things in MEA Ryder has NO real choice in anything he/she says or does. I wanted to shoot Miranda in the face for being Cerberus scum, get Jacob put in a penal battalion and go sort the collectors with the might of the Alliance behind me. I wanted EDI to remain a hologram. I wanted Liara to join the squad in ME2. I wanted to not go right up the middle where the resistance was thickest on Priority Earth. I wanted to record Sovereign's conversation and play it to the Council. And so on.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 23, 2017 23:51:40 GMT
Let's see. An Asari interested in other cultures and history, citing things from other cultures' history.... What madness is this?! It's totally inconceivable that a reckless free-spirit like PeeBee would be drawn to those same kind of people in Earth's history! How dare she! Seriously, people? Digging real deep to find stuff to complain about after patch 1.07. If you suck BioWares nuts any harder youll be brushing pubes out your front teeth, Maximus...
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Let's see. An Asari interested in other cultures and history, citing things from other cultures' history.... What madness is this?! It's totally inconceivable that a reckless free-spirit like PeeBee would be drawn to those same kind of people in Earth's history! How dare she! Seriously, people? Digging real deep to find stuff to complain about after patch 1.07. If you suck BioWares nuts any harder youll be brushing pubes out your front teeth, Maximus...
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Post by kalasaurus on May 24, 2017 0:01:14 GMT
There's a lot of aliens referencing human sayings in the OT and MEA. And mostly English ones, too. Hmm...
As for Peebee, I just wanted to call her out for being an attention wh0re when she bragged about her "secret project" and pretended to be annoyed when people "pried" about it. (edit) She didn't bother me too much beyond that, though.
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Post by Furisco on May 24, 2017 0:41:59 GMT
Peebee is trash.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 1:08:53 GMT
Too right mate, would have loved to cap her the same moment you get to cap her 'friend'.
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Post by maximusarael020 on May 24, 2017 1:50:49 GMT
Let's see. An Asari interested in other cultures and history, citing things from other cultures' history.... What madness is this?! It's totally inconceivable that a reckless free-spirit like PeeBee would be drawn to those same kind of people in Earth's history! How dare she! Seriously, people? Digging real deep to find stuff to complain about after patch 1.07. If you suck BioWares nuts any harder youll be brushing pubes out your front teeth, Maximus... Yeah, hate those people who look at context and have a suspension of disbelief. You must hate Jurassic Park. "There's no way DNA could survive 65 million years in amber! 10 million years maximum! This movie is trash!" I'm glad that I allow myself to enjoy things and not pick it apart until I hate it. But I guess I'm just a positive person!
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Post by kalasaurus on May 24, 2017 2:06:59 GMT
If you suck BioWares nuts any harder youll be brushing pubes out your front teeth, Maximus... Yeah, hate those people who look at context and have a suspension of disbelief. You must hate Jurassic Park. "There's no way DNA could survive 65 million years in amber! 10 million years maximum! This movie is trash!" I'm glad that I allow myself to enjoy things and not pick it apart until I hate it. But I guess I'm just a positive person! It's easy to hate things when you're a pedant.
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