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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 22, 2017 9:05:06 GMT
Yeah totally true, there's no good ending at all. I feel so divide with myself that is insane, in one hand I like that there isn't and in the other hand I'm like where is my f*cking Disney-like happy ending, f#cK y@# Bioware.
Like I said in the other thread, I will wait for real consequences, if ever there will be, for Andromeda, which I really doubt. For now, green is what best suits my mind and moral code, at the expense of Kaidan&Shepard true love.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 22, 2017 20:00:41 GMT
I always choose high ems destroy. Always. Becoming the reapers or forcing everyone to meld without their consent is imo wrong. And in high ems destroy it is inferred that everything that was destroyed (technology wise) can be repaired in time. In my mind I have that include EDI. I think no choice will be acknowledged in Andromeda as they left before the ending of ME3 and therefore would have no way of knowing what happened.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 22, 2017 20:58:27 GMT
Yeah totally true, there's no good ending at all. I feel so divide with myself that is insane, in one hand I like that there isn't and in the other hand I'm like where is my f*cking Disney-like happy ending, f#cK y@# Bioware. Like I said in the other thread, I will wait for real consequences, if ever there will be, for Andromeda, which I really doubt. For now, green is what best suits my mind and moral code, at the expense of Kaidan&Shepard true love. Andromeda isn't going to touch the endings. Whichever one you choose/feels best is The End because it's your game, as Bio intended. --I have seen all 3 endings: One thing I like about Synthesis is when EDI hugs your LI. It's so damn bittersweet. I don't think Andromeda will mention anything about the original trilogy for that matter. They seem to want to start anew, and I'm ok with that.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 23, 2017 1:09:43 GMT
Yeah totally true, there's no good ending at all. I feel so divide with myself that is insane, in one hand I like that there isn't and in the other hand I'm like where is my f*cking Disney-like happy ending, f#cK y@# Bioware. Like I said in the other thread, I will wait for real consequences, if ever there will be, for Andromeda, which I really doubt. For now, green is what best suits my mind and moral code, at the expense of Kaidan&Shepard true love. Andromeda isn't going to touch the endings. Whichever one you choose/feels best is The End because it's your game, as Bio intended. --I have seen all 3 endings: One thing I like about Synthesis is when EDI hugs your LI. It's so damn bittersweet. I don't think Andromeda will mention anything about the original trilogy for that matter. They seem to want to start anew, and I'm ok with that. That scene always gets into my soul with a tons of needles, cruel and evil needles I always choose high ems destroy. Always. Becoming the reapers or forcing everyone to meld without their consent is imo wrong. And in high ems destroy it is inferred that everything that was destroyed (technology wise) can be repaired in time. In my mind I have that include EDI. I think no choice will be acknowledged in Andromeda as they left before the ending of ME3 and therefore would have no way of knowing what happened. I would like to think that, but the Catalyst explicitly said that all synthetics will die, no matter what. I hope the little bastard was lying about it. That is why I need to know the consequences of every ending, I need an aftermath answer to know what ending should I choose in my tortured mind. I hope we don't have to wait 'til ME Andromeda part V for it It would be awesome to see the Ryder brothers go sometime to their origin galaxy!
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Post by aoibhealfae on Jan 23, 2017 3:34:16 GMT
I choose High EMS Destroy. Kaidan commandeered Normandy and went back to Earth to rescue Shepard. She recovered and they got married and have babies. The End.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 23, 2017 4:53:03 GMT
I just saw how the MEHEM mod ends on youtube, I'm ranting to my computer right now. Why Bioware Why
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Post by catalina on Jan 23, 2017 10:28:38 GMT
I've got the MEHEM mod. It's great, no more Shepard lying underneath some rubble . It's the only way I can play ME3 again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 10:40:03 GMT
I play on ps3 so I can't install the Happy ending mod sadly, but I am probably going to save citadel till after I beat the game this go round (still on Mass Effect 2 now though). Try to head cannon it takes place after Kaidan saves me from the rubble. Not cannon and lots of dialogue about the war to ignore, but I can do that.
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I always headcanon the ending to the Citadel DLC, as the definitive ending to the trilogy for me. It makes sense arguably for plenty of people, since for some the Citadel DLC may well be the last thing they play from the original trilogy.
Whenever I play now I always play right through to the "ending" on Earth, then reload the save before Cerberus HQ, just pretend that Shepard and the squad and crew are all alive and well, the Reapers destroyed, and then go to the Citadel for some well earned shore leave.
After their adventures, and party where they all got together, Shepard and Kaidan share a romantic and nostalgic exchange together, with the rest of the squad and crew joining them at the Normandy dock.
"It's been a good ride"
"The best"
*my heart breaks* and then they all go back on the Normandy and ride off into the sunset for more adventures in the Reaper and Cerberus free Milky Way.
The end.
Fin.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 23, 2017 14:37:31 GMT
I play on ps3 so I can't install the Happy ending mod sadly, but I am probably going to save citadel till after I beat the game this go round (still on Mass Effect 2 now though). Try to head cannon it takes place after Kaidan saves me from the rubble. Not cannon and lots of dialogue about the war to ignore, but I can do that. I don't think you can do Citadel after the ending without mods. The ending makes it kind of impossible.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 23, 2017 22:21:03 GMT
I always choose high ems destroy. Always. Becoming the reapers or forcing everyone to meld without their consent is imo wrong. And in high ems destroy it is inferred that everything that was destroyed (technology wise) can be repaired in time. In my mind I have that include EDI. Hm, I don't know. EDI was built using Reaper tech, specifically has Reaper-based code (so I guess she's part Reaper, technically speaking) and Destroy annihilates all Reapers as well as ruins technology (or whatever) but doesn't specify if Reaper tech in any form is salvageable (although... Mass Relays...?). I kinda doubt she'd be reconstructed. Moreover her programs, who she is, are wiped. It's sad but I think EDI is gone. Perhaps another AI could be created, but I don't think it would still be her.
Similarly, the geth could be "recreated" I suppose, but the programs effected by the Crucible are gone. And on the topic... does Destroy affect Kaidan's implant? That's tech...
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 23, 2017 23:09:54 GMT
We need some group hug :hugging you all: This... is almost just more sad because (RIP) Robin Williams.
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I play on ps3 so I can't install the Happy ending mod sadly, but I am probably going to save citadel till after I beat the game this go round (still on Mass Effect 2 now though). Try to head cannon it takes place after Kaidan saves me from the rubble. Not cannon and lots of dialogue about the war to ignore, but I can do that. I don't think you can do Citadel after the ending without mods. The ending makes it kind of impossible. the game keeps a save before the final battle with Cerberus. So it isn't an issue. It'll be to the game as though I haven't beat the game yet technically, but like I said...lots of ignoring the truth comes into play.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 24, 2017 3:33:11 GMT
I don't think you can do Citadel after the ending without mods. The ending makes it kind of impossible. the game keeps a save before the final battle with Cerberus. So it isn't an issue. It'll be to the game as though I haven't beat the game yet technically, but like I said...lots of ignoring the truth comes into play. Gotcha. Personally, I find that Citadel can be played over a long stretch of the game. The ending of if ought to be done just prior to going to Cronos Station. To me, this is like they got a short rest (party) and are then going off to meet their fate. I just make sure I have high EMS, I've talked to my crew and squadmates and I choose Destroy. Then Shepard and any potential LI both survive. That allows for a happily ever after headcanon. The only ones who die are the ones who the game mandates have to die. (Actually, a mod can save one of the mandatory deaths but not the other.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 3:38:16 GMT
Yeah. I might deal with the "clone wars" before end game, but save most of the rest of the content for later. I will decide when I get closer to that point.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 24, 2017 23:22:39 GMT
I always choose high ems destroy. Always. Becoming the reapers or forcing everyone to meld without their consent is imo wrong. And in high ems destroy it is inferred that everything that was destroyed (technology wise) can be repaired in time. In my mind I have that include EDI. Hm, I don't know. EDI was built using Reaper tech, specifically has Reaper-based code (so I guess she's part Reaper, technically speaking) and Destroy annihilates all Reapers as well as ruins technology (or whatever) but doesn't specify if Reaper tech in any form is salvageable (although... Mass Relays...?). I kinda doubt she'd be reconstructed. Moreover her programs, who she is, are wiped. It's sad but I think EDI is gone. Perhaps another AI could be created, but I don't think it would still be her.
Similarly, the geth could be "recreated" I suppose, but the programs effected by the Crucible are gone. And on the topic... does Destroy affect Kaidan's implant? That's tech... I do think her personality would be altered and I think implants and such *might* be affected, but I don't recall hearing or reading that for sure anywhere. The rebuilding dialogue comes if you have you the free extended ending dlc and Hackett says we can rebuild.
I know it sounds cold, but I will pick organics over EDI and the Geth any day. Sorry robots.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 24, 2017 23:23:40 GMT
I always play the Citadel dlc after I beat the game. I pretend it *is* the ending. So there!
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 25, 2017 0:20:47 GMT
I do think her personality would be altered and I think implants and such *might* be affected, but I don't recall hearing or reading that for sure anywhere. The rebuilding dialogue comes if you have you the free extended ending dlc and Hackett says we can rebuild.
I know it sounds cold, but I will pick organics over EDI and the Geth any day. Sorry robots. I don't know that we need these spoiler tags? I do have the Extended Cut, it's just vague... so is the Catalyst about what technologies are affected, kind of just says "stuff will get screwed up, but don't worry you can fix it." Since the blast "will not be constrained to the Reapers" and "technology you depend on will be affected" that leads me to think biotic implants would too. All of it, everything. Admittedly I don't have a full understanding of how biotic implants work, but I wonder how it would be affected and how that would affect Kaidan. I think there are still risks or problems, even if temporary/minor, in picking Destroy. Oh, and, it doesn't matter to me who picks what for the endings. Some people get all worked up about it, but it's not a big deal to me.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Jan 25, 2017 2:33:06 GMT
I do think her personality would be altered and I think implants and such *might* be affected, but I don't recall hearing or reading that for sure anywhere. The rebuilding dialogue comes if you have you the free extended ending dlc and Hackett says we can rebuild.
I know it sounds cold, but I will pick organics over EDI and the Geth any day. Sorry robots. I don't know that we need these spoiler tags? I do have the Extended Cut, it's just vague... so is the Catalyst about what technologies are affected, kind of just says "stuff will get screwed up, but don't worry you can fix it." Since the blast "will not be constrained to the Reapers" and "technology you depend on will be affected" that leads me to think biotic implants would too. All of it, everything. Admittedly I don't have a full understanding of how biotic implants work, but I wonder how it would be affected and how that would affect Kaidan. I think there are still risks or problems, even if temporary/minor, in picking Destroy. Oh, and, it doesn't matter to me who picks what for the endings. Some people get all worked up about it, but it's not a big deal to me. I just didn't want to spoil Davrin's boobs! lol I don't get worked up either. I pick what's good for me and I want others to pick what makes them happy
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 25, 2017 2:34:37 GMT
I do think her personality would be altered and I think implants and such *might* be affected, but I don't recall hearing or reading that for sure anywhere. The rebuilding dialogue comes if you have you the free extended ending dlc and Hackett says we can rebuild.
I know it sounds cold, but I will pick organics over EDI and the Geth any day. Sorry robots. I don't know that we need these spoiler tags? I do have the Extended Cut, it's just vague... so is the Catalyst about what technologies are affected, kind of just says "stuff will get screwed up, but don't worry you can fix it." Since the blast "will not be constrained to the Reapers" and "technology you depend on will be affected" that leads me to think biotic implants would too. All of it, everything. Admittedly I don't have a full understanding of how biotic implants work, but I wonder how it would be affected and how that would affect Kaidan. I think there are still risks or problems, even if temporary/minor, in picking Destroy. Oh, and, it doesn't matter to me who picks what for the endings. Some people get all worked up about it, but it's not a big deal to me. I don't think it means all tech will be destroyed, just tech based on Reaper tech. I believe some of Shepard's implants were based on Reaper tech, just as the rogue VI upgrade to EDI was a result of Reaper tech. I guess it's not stated in the game that he has Reaper tech in him but it seems plausible since EDI also came into being in that same time period. It's not unreasonable.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 25, 2017 5:58:54 GMT
I don't know that we need these spoiler tags? I do have the Extended Cut, it's just vague... so is the Catalyst about what technologies are affected, kind of just says "stuff will get screwed up, but don't worry you can fix it." Since the blast "will not be constrained to the Reapers" and "technology you depend on will be affected" that leads me to think biotic implants would too. All of it, everything. Admittedly I don't have a full understanding of how biotic implants work, but I wonder how it would be affected and how that would affect Kaidan. I think there are still risks or problems, even if temporary/minor, in picking Destroy. Oh, and, it doesn't matter to me who picks what for the endings. Some people get all worked up about it, but it's not a big deal to me. I don't think it means all tech will be destroyed, just tech based on Reaper tech. I believe some of Shepard's implants were based on Reaper tech, just as the rogue VI upgrade to EDI was a result of Reaper tech. I guess it's not stated in the game that he has Reaper tech in him but it seems plausible since EDI also came into being in that same time period. It's not unreasonable. Not destroyed but defunct or disabled -- but supposedly repairable. I'm not saying Kaidan's head would explode or anything (rather, he (and others) would probably have to get a new implant), but I guess I saw Red Blasty Stuff to be like a... massive EMP? Since it's not "focused" enough to target only the Reapers and will destroy all synthetic life, seems fair enough that it would disrupt tech on any level. As you mentioned, or according to the Catalyst, even Shepard is "partly synthetic" but I don't think it matters what type, Reaper or otherwise. Of course, there are certainly flaws in the endings, but this was my understanding of it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 25, 2017 6:05:59 GMT
Not destroyed but defunct or disabled -- but supposedly repairable. I'm not saying Kaidan's head would explode or anything (rather, he (and others) would probably have to get a new implant), but I guess I saw Red Blasty Stuff to be like a... massive EMP? Since it's not "focused" enough to target only the Reapers and will destroy all synthetic life, seems fair enough that it would disrupt tech on any level. As you mentioned, or according to the Catalyst, even Shepard is "partly synthetic" but I don't think it matters what type, Reaper or otherwise. Of course, there are certainly flaws in the endings, but this was my understanding of it. Kaidan getting a new implant would probably be a good thing. He's very powerful with an L2. Imagine if he were upgraded to and L5? (Not sure it's possible since was I just read says there are two L5 implants, one for Vanguards and one for Adepts.) He'd probably be unstoppable with that kind of upgrade and no more migraines.
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Post by SpiritVanguard on Jan 25, 2017 6:41:34 GMT
Kaidan getting a new implant would probably be a good thing. He's very powerful with an L2. Imagine if he were upgraded to and L5? (Not sure it's possible since was I just read says there are two L5 implants, one for Vanguards and one for Adepts.) He'd probably be unstoppable with that kind of upgrade and no more migraines. It was Kaidan's choice to stay an L2 though, partly because he was afraid of the surgery ("one wrong cut and you forget your name") but also was content with his abilities even if it was an outdated implant with little drawback, considering. True that even with a lower level implant he was still stronger than a lot of L3s (except Shepard, as he notes). I just hope that Destroy wouldn't cause him any pain or damage. I mean, it's in his head...
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 25, 2017 16:16:56 GMT
Kaidan getting a new implant would probably be a good thing. He's very powerful with an L2. Imagine if he were upgraded to and L5? (Not sure it's possible since was I just read says there are two L5 implants, one for Vanguards and one for Adepts.) He'd probably be unstoppable with that kind of upgrade and no more migraines. It was Kaidan's choice to stay an L2 though, partly because he was afraid of the surgery ("one wrong cut and you forget your name") but also was content with his abilities even if it was an outdated implant with little drawback, considering. True that even with a lower level implant he was still stronger than a lot of L3s (except Shepard, as he notes). I just hope that Destroy wouldn't cause him any pain or damage. I mean, it's in his head... It that case, they can be two invalids nursing each other back to health.
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