Canadian Delicacy - The Kaidan Alenko Thread

I've seen a similar thing to the reaction on Reyes, Solas, Koth and Senya. But I think its rooted with the player's perception of how a supporting NPC shouldn't antagonize the Player's motive or decisions and its simply unpleasant and infuriating to be denied. I've had Horizon is described to me by the worst betrayal from a squadmate who should have your ultimate trust because everyone else in the game does. No matter how progression and development of that character or the narrative that will lead, it doesn't change the fact that irrational ugly feeling of being snubbed, the hurtful actions of a disloyalty that deserve to be punished rather than understanding. It doesn't matter whether there's a logical reason behind it, its just is.. the character is antagonizing you and undermining your authority, naturally they deserve a bullet in the head. It doesn't matter if you play a stoic character whose responses are constant, player's feelings still took precedent. 

The Illusive Man did try to turn Shepard and Kaidan against each other repetitively in ME2 and ME3. The rift is intentional, however in Mass Effect series, the story aren't being told through another perspective which severely limited the information you're getting. It would be nice to get a lot more cutscenes of other characters which happen outside of player's first person limited POV. Say after your talk with Anderson and the Council in ME2, when you walk out of Anderson's office, Kaidan suddenly emerged from the shadows just moments before the door was closed.

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As for the other topic, I've already put out the exact dialogues lines of whatever the OP wanted to see with the 'desired' outcome. I am blunt about it because I won't sugarcoat it, Kaidan's reaction is one of contempt and for many that stays forever. But whatever comes out of it, that's their call. 

And yes my question was purely technical ("what happens technically in the game if...")

I already played the 3 games and if it can help you feel better aiobhealfae, I didn't romance anyone in ME1, so, no drama afterwards.

I just wondered what happened "if"... that's all. It was not a question about morality or who is wrong or right.

That's what I do.

PS3 doesn't have even an option to modify the save to give you the glitchy m/m experience in Mass Effect 1, so there is no flirting in that game for me.  So it's just Shep and his hand till 3.  I actually like the story in 1 okay, but the combat and the repetitive side quests are horrible.  

Mass Effect 2 is fun enough, but again no romance and I've played through it a million times. 

I play on PC as well, but I started ME1 way before this upgraded mod. The use of female pronouns and the femshep model in the cutscene were total dealbreakers for me so I played without any mods. At first I resented having to play through two games without any romance, but the payoff in ME3 went above and beyond my expectations to the point where I think the slow burning friends-to-lovers romance arc is the best way to play. I'm happy the new mod exists for those who can't wait to get with Kaidan (and who could blame them?), but I think it's too late for me. I'm already set in my ways.

blauwvissa: Oh, I see. With Backoff installed, I loaded up save from right after landing on Mars. Went through it and got to the scene where the huskified Cerberus soldier was found by Kaidan. They have their talk. Kaidan asks of the person he loved is still in there somewhere. I guess this means that Backoff is inconsistent with how it handles imported m/m romances.

It's funny because I use Gibbed and make sure the appropriate boxes are checked.  I guess I'd need a full PT of ME3 to find out for sure.   If it does cause those kinds of problems I'll probably have to figure out how to remove it before I import my current Shepard who's in ME2.  I feel like that will be a lot of work because a great many files were overwritten...hmm, or maybe not.  They might all be in a mod folder and so easily removable.  I'll look into it when I get closer to the end of ME2.